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Genuinely upset at this wildflower destruction

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pelargoniums · 21/06/2025 07:20

Live in a loooooong terrace that backs on to another similarly long terrace, with a twitten between the streets. All the gardens have a gate onto the twitten for access, but no one uses it for actual access: at one end, street access is bricked up; at the other, it’s so far from most of the houses and emerges on the road with nightmare parking so even if you clear your garden, you get the lads to go through the house because big work trucks can’t get down that road. Plus every spring it becomes impenetrable with overgrown plants and wildlife.

Most of my neighbours keep a compost bin, leaf mould, narrow tool storage etc out there. A general “live and let live” attitude prevails so if you put a tool store out, you stagger it against your opposite neighbour’s so everyone can have space.

And it’s lovely! Behind ours I have compost and leaf mould, plus wildflowers naturally – I’ve never planted anything but there was six foot tall cow parsley, green alkanet, bluebells, loads of things I can’t identify. DC spend a lot of time there bug hunting, it attracts loads of butterflies – the caterpillarfest in spring was amazing – birds, field mice.

The neighbours opposite have razed the lot. Not only on “their” side but mine. They don’t garden, theirs is fully paved. No reason to do this – they can’t get out through a bricked wall and they’ve left the next space along alone, which is solidly rose/bramble/thicket. A whole mini habitat gone. Now it’s just bare earth for the neighbourhood cats to poo in.

AIBU to be gutted but more importantly, how to respond?! I’d love to do a line of pleached trees in the twitten to block them from my sight but they’d only chop them down I think, and also £££. More wildflowers, obviously. While the land is bare the kids want to paint a mural on the wall saying Save Our Wildflowers & Our Planet (because I suggested it to them 😂) and paint butterflies, ladybirds, bees. Or something permanent/evergreen and purposeful on my side that won’t encroach over their half of the space, but is clearly meant to be there – as they obviously felt the natural aspect of the wildflowers was too much nature – but still pollinator-friendly. Japanese hogweed? 😈

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crackofdoom · 22/06/2025 19:46

ZoeCM · 22/06/2025 14:35

But claiming to be "fucking devastated" is insane! That's the sort of phrase a normal person would only use if they lost a loved one, or their marriage broke down. MNers have a terrible tendency for attention-seeking, melodramatic phrasing. People use "devastated", "heartbroken" and "grief-stricken" at the drop of a hat. A poster recently said "I really do feel like I'm grieving" because she didn't like how her hair looked in her wedding photos.

If you're not fucking devastated about what's happening to the natural world and our planet in general, then you simply haven't been paying enough attention.

And when you think "Well, what can I do? At least I can manage my little patch as best I can to encourage a few insects and birds", and then some oblivious moron looks up from Love Island for long enough to raze that tiny, tiny patch- then yes, you are fucking, fucking, FUCKING devastated.

I honestly wonder what it's going to take for people like you to wake up.

ZoeCM · 22/06/2025 14:35

crackofdoom · 21/06/2025 21:52

You're showing yourself up with your ignorance there.

I challenge you to get a wildflower guide and start identifying these "weeds". You'll find there can be dozens of species of beautiful wildflowers growing in a tiny urban space. And then you can start looking up all the insects that rely on these "weeds". (Just as one example- hate nettles? Well, we wouldn't have beautiful tortoiseshell butterflies without them).

And in your researches, you might hear tell of something called "catastrophic insect decline", and the impact that that is having on beautiful birds like swifts, mammals like bats, and- ultimately- on our food supply.

Or maybe you'll just spray the glyphosate around your sterile garden again and moan about food prices going up....🙄

But claiming to be "fucking devastated" is insane! That's the sort of phrase a normal person would only use if they lost a loved one, or their marriage broke down. MNers have a terrible tendency for attention-seeking, melodramatic phrasing. People use "devastated", "heartbroken" and "grief-stricken" at the drop of a hat. A poster recently said "I really do feel like I'm grieving" because she didn't like how her hair looked in her wedding photos.

Alltheyellowbirds · 22/06/2025 13:48

pelargoniums · 22/06/2025 13:46

This is gorgeous! Feeling very inspired now by this and a pp suggestion of brambles – I’ve been planning a thornless blackberry bush anyway – and the idea of curating the twitten a bit more as a community project.

We’re outside the bounds of the Weald to Waves wildlife corridor but every bit of rewilding helps.

In general I think the neighbours would be up for it: we have an informal “library of things” for swapping gardening and DIY tools, and the group chat is usually ablaze with wildlife spots. We had a badger waddling down the road once!

Sounds like the neighbours would be well up for a group project then. Keep us updated OP!

pelargoniums · 22/06/2025 13:46

PurpleThistle7 · 22/06/2025 11:01

As an aside we have a re wilding path on our estate and my children made a bug hotel. Super cute and a fun project.

This is gorgeous! Feeling very inspired now by this and a pp suggestion of brambles – I’ve been planning a thornless blackberry bush anyway – and the idea of curating the twitten a bit more as a community project.

We’re outside the bounds of the Weald to Waves wildlife corridor but every bit of rewilding helps.

In general I think the neighbours would be up for it: we have an informal “library of things” for swapping gardening and DIY tools, and the group chat is usually ablaze with wildlife spots. We had a badger waddling down the road once!

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Hedgehogbrown · 22/06/2025 11:28

Aww that's sad. Some people just like bare ground. Sorry you've been saddled with them as neighbours. Get some cornfield annuals in and make the ground look cultivated like you've done it on purpose. The kids doing that sign is a good idea.

UnctuousUnicorns · 22/06/2025 11:22

toadinthebucket · 21/06/2025 22:52

Twitchell, ginnel or jitty here in Notts.

So many regional variations for the same thing! Also wynd in parts of Scotland, and in Neston where my parents live there are signs with "weint" on them.

user7529706387 · 22/06/2025 11:10

Ah, I can see why you're cross OP. That looked beautiful and a creepy crawlies heaven no doubt. Often the best thing we can do for nature is leave it well alone!

PurpleThistle7 · 22/06/2025 11:01

As an aside we have a re wilding path on our estate and my children made a bug hotel. Super cute and a fun project.

Genuinely upset at this wildflower destruction
Swoopingswift · 22/06/2025 11:00

Now I want a twitten!

UnctuousUnicorns · 22/06/2025 10:58

Our untidy front garden, which has, at one time or another, apple tree, elderflower, rose, buddleia, cotoneaster, violets, columbine, bluebells, moonwort, buttercups, ferns, sedum, and whatever else might blow in. We usually sow nasturtium in planters, but I had an accident in February so DH has been too busy helping me to get round to that. Below the window we've put two garden chairs with a little makeshift table between them, so in fine weather, we can sit out and eat breakfast, snacks etc. I also read or do knitting or crochet while I listen to audiobooks on Bluetooth headphones. Sitting there, I can almost forget that the street is just the other side of the hedge.

Genuinely upset at this wildflower destruction
PurpleThistle7 · 22/06/2025 10:57

Evolutionarygoals · 21/06/2025 20:49

Just sneaking in to add the word 'vennel' to the thesaurus we're compiling. Scottish word which I know from East Lothian (I don't know how widespread it is)

was going to share this one too. Learned it when we immigrated to Scotland (to edinburgh for what it’s worth)

personally I wouldn’t say anything and just deliberately plant new things in pots so they know it’s meant to be there. They might have had concerns or thought it should be cleared or have had a reaction to something growing there as you aren’t even sure what it all was.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/06/2025 10:52

Boredlass · 22/06/2025 10:40

Looks much better now

I think it looked better before.

Don't worry, op, it will all be back in a couple of weeks.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/06/2025 10:51

Well, just animals in fact!

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/06/2025 10:51

DustyTangerine · 21/06/2025 07:29

Cow parsley stopped flowering a couple of weeks ago at least - it was probably hogweed. Great for insects not that good for people or animals

Insects are vital to humans and animals.

HappyNewTaxYear · 22/06/2025 10:48

EsmaCannonball · 21/06/2025 23:47

About 18 months ago we had someone dog rough but unaware of it move in nearby. She's all plastic lawn and decking and gravel and even has plastic plants and plastic flowers in the garden. That would be bad enough, but her prerogative; however, she moans about everyone who has actual plants and grass and trees in their garden. Gardens with a bit of nature in them are messy and unclean and attract birds (evil!) and vermin, apparently. (Although, I'm inclined to think that any vermin are more likely to be attracted by her munching crisps as she chainsmokes out the front in her dressing gown, myself.) One of my neighbours has the most beautiful fairytale front garden with a big tree and wildflowers and weathered Edwardian urns and benches to go with the house, and she hates it. There seems to be this modern trend for outdoor spaces to be horribly sterile and controlled.

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It’s an extension to the outside world of the MN obsession with deep-cleaning their houses daily and washing their towels after one use.

Boredlass · 22/06/2025 10:40

Looks much better now

Alltheyellowbirds · 22/06/2025 10:38

I love the idea shared earlier of getting all the neighbours together for a rewilding project. Then you could come up with a pretty design that everybody likes, get all the children involved and learning about wildlife, and it becomes a community project.After all, the lane belongs to everybody so they should get to input on how it is used. Plus, you’d be less likely to come home one day to find a neighbour has weeded out all the wildflowers..,

Swoopingswift · 22/06/2025 10:36

Oh OP I think you will be able to make it lovely and wild again. As you say it’s a chance to clear any plastic.

We’ve been watching Springwatch with DS and I enjoyed the ‘Springwatch Street’ part where they showed how much nature and biodiversity you can have in terraced back gardens in a city. It looked like lots of the neighbours really tried to encourage nature, and when they set up cameras were amazed by all the animals that visited the gardens at night like hedgehogs, foxes, even badgers, particularly in wild areas like your twitten.
It’s made me resolve to have my garden less tidy!

AbzMoz · 22/06/2025 09:18

i would be upset too but nature grows! Would definitely explore pollinator hotels - solitary bee bricks etc can be made easily. Even better if you can add little dishes for collecting water esp in shadier spots

your brick wall to the left would lend itself to trailing baskets from the top too if you were doing intentional willing i wonder if you might consider brambles - we’ve managed to make our back fence very fruitful!

given how small my own garden is this would become a prized reading spot with a small bench!

PiggyPigalle · 22/06/2025 09:05

I don't get it either and would upset me. We see wild, they see weeds.

At present I have 2 vases of different peonies in my sitting room. By far the most beautiful though is a vase of ethereal looking, dill seed heads. I saved them to spray gold and silver for Christmas decorations along with allium seed heads.

The dill is so beautiful I won't be spraying them. I can't ruin that natural beauty.
I do wish I was an artist though so I could paint a watercolour of them.
If your destructive neighbours saw my dill, they'd consider I had a vase of dead flowers.

Candleabra · 22/06/2025 08:43

Ah that is a shame. Having lived in lots of terraced houses I’m still struggling with the idea of the alley at the back not being accessible but it’s clearly not used for access where you are. Have fun with your planting.

pelargoniums · 22/06/2025 08:33

@Candleabra Ours was even wilder than that! 😂 It’ll come back, green alkanet can’t be stopped by nuclear bombs.

My patch is now this. Corrugated plastic was buried under it all so I can get rid of that at least before everything grows back. The thicket beyond is the next neighbour along; beyond it, a few houses on, the twitten is bricked up – I really don’t think access was the goal.

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LancashireButterPie · 22/06/2025 08:25

Candleabra · 22/06/2025 08:20

Sorry OP, I’m not in the tidy brigade and love gardening but that does look like a mess to me and I can see why your neighbours cleared it if that’s what it looked like.

What the fuck?
I can guess what type of gardener you are!
Neat lines of marigolds and lobelia around a lawn aka 1975.

OPs area is a stunning little biodiverse and wild plot. Stop embarrassing yourself.

LancashireButterPie · 22/06/2025 08:22

What a lovely area.
Put up a couple of signs "Nature area", "Nature lives here" to help others see the beauty in wild things.
Don't worry about the bit of bare wall, quite a lot of creatures do like the warmth that they bring and he has left the moss on it.

Candleabra · 22/06/2025 08:20

Sorry OP, I’m not in the tidy brigade and love gardening but that does look like a mess to me and I can see why your neighbours cleared it if that’s what it looked like.

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