Hell is a terraced house with a hot tub, bar and outdoor tv.

Sometimes its fire with fire because it’s all you’ve got, isn’t it?

Tbh I only used the speaker to slightly amplify my phone volume, we're not talking booming decibels speaker on max volume, we're talking the volume level of a conversation so I can't help but think you're overreacting slightly

Again I’m just trying to understand the thinking.

did you know other people would hear your noise but you didn’t care? You viewed your discomfort of headphones more important than your neighbours discomfort?

or did you think your neighbours wouldn’t mind the noise?

or did the neighbours inconvenience not even cross your mind?

And yes we have music on but we have to put up with power tool and wood burner treated wood smoke all winter so yeah fuck the neighbours they are selfish and polluting, both noise and sir wise

wait until next week we shall be enjoying Glastonbury at home

It’s a hot summer solstice
Enjoy kick back

sitting in deathly silence in garden feels like waiting for death especially on an evening like this

I genuinely don't understand what it is that make some people think that it's OK to play loud music, or do anything antisocial, in residential areas.

Is it that they're too thick to realise? Surely even the most unintelligent of creatures know that if their music is loud, it is disruptive to others?

Is it entitlement? That they'll do as they please, because fuck everyone else? But this would mean they don't care about sleeping children, elderly or sick people, people with mental illness etc, that their actions could have an impact on. Are people really that selfish?

Or do some people think that's normal behaviour? Again, surely not?

No one wants to have to listen to anyone else's shit music. Gardens are supposed to be peaceful and calm. An escape. Inside the house, even more so. If someone in their own home can hear a neighbour's music, that's just not OK.

@Vitrolinsanity this is exactly what I do. And then I retreat shaking thinking oh no hope I haven't made it worse for myself.

So far it's worked. Only would do this when I have 3am wake ups with alarms etc ringing for over a bloody hour etc or what you describe.

Based on update - I would definitely find opportunities to go for a walk in the street and if other neighbours are accessible easily, start a conversation and find out what they're feeling. All with a view to reporting as a collective to the landlord / letting agent.

Obviously have to be discrete in case neighbours drop you in it and pie head family get worse.

The reminds me so much of the new film ' Restless' I watched just last week. Are you sure this isn't a promo for this? 😆

In all seriousness, it isn't funny. I agree with whoever said this can send people over the edge. I'm housebound so much with health and this sort of neighbour situation would really make me think about running them over as a last fucking hurrah tbh.

I bloody love Butlins. The thing is you know it’ll be a crazy few days, then you all go home. Recreating the experience in your garden is about as cunty as you can get.

I also love my garden. Invite friends round occasionally and listen to music. It goes off or we move inside at 10ish. So when my neighbours ramped up their Ibefa party music last Sunday night at midnight I was singularly unimpressed. To be fair, poking my head out the window and shrieking “are you fucking kidding me, turn that shit down” did have the immediate desired effect. I was trembling afterwards at what all the other neighbours thought about me.

There is a ray of hope here. That they are renting. I would speak to the to other neighbours who're also sick to the back teeth of them and try and find out a way to find out who is the owner of the house. If you all speak out together it makes your case much stronger and they would have a harder time labelling you as a complaining neighbour. There are more of you decent neighbours than there are of them. I think the key lies here. The more neighbours complaining the better as it's better all round if it's not just you.

Oh god, OP. I am so sorry you're going through this hell! I wish I had an answer.

Wow. I have no advice to offer , but you have my utmost sympathy. I would hate to have to live with your neighbours.

I was just going to suggest that OP play some black metal or doom metal, like Burzum or Sun 0))), it sounds like it comes from the depths of hell and might scare them into being more considerate 🤘

I don't think this is helpful at all, must seem oh so funny if you don't live there.

I'd add Coldplay to the list.

If we had a functioning DVSA I'd ask their driving licence is revoked on the grounds of their drug abuse.

Yes, that type of thing, but this is more powerful and you can adjust the output so that it works on adults.

Get the landlord's details from the Land Registry? It's been a long time since I did property law so I can't say how much detail they'd have (probably not contact details) but certainly his or her name which would hopefully not be just John Smith or something and would allow you to do some digging via SM/electoral register or something. Accessing the Land Registry is something like £1 per house searched.

I'm surprised tbh that the landlord would be fine with a hot tub etc being installed! Sounds a nightmare OP, you have my sympathies.

If anyone has neighbours from hell listening through Bluetooth speakers in the garden it can be hacked with your own playlist. Wait for a gap then away you go😁

that's the same as the mosquito gadget i posted about upthread.

You sound like her neighbours , entitled, selfish and everything that is wrong with people of today !!

Dh says it was very high frequency sound.

He bought a high frequency generator called a function signal generator code: XR2206 from Amazon and runs off a 9volt battery. You plug the output of that into a mini power amplifier code: POHOVE then put the outlet of that into a loud speaker model: VISATON model VS-FRS8/4. He says these are showing as out of stock, but they're sold elsewhere.

They do make ready made high frequency generators with speaker built in, but they're more expensive.

You turn the sound right up, but just beyond the threshold of your hearing if you're older than them and aim it over their fence (we fixed ours to the side of our shed). The hot tub was about five metres away. They'd hear a very high pitched whine, but you can't hear where it's coming from. They might not actually consciously hear it, but it's enough to irritate the brain.

The best noise deterrent is a very low frequency, which causes a feeling of anxiety and nausea etc., but that's a bit harder to produce. That makes you feel ill.

If they have an outdoor television you can get a TV Be Gone kit and see if you can either put it together yourself or get an electronic minded friend to do it for you. The kits can't be sold ready made for legal reasons. This will turn any television off. Kit is only about £10. You will have full control over their TV.

These stories remind me of a horrible thing that happened to friends of ours about 20 years ago.

They lived in a ground-floor flat with their son, who was a good (electric) guitar player. He rehearsed with his friends in a nearby hall but never ever played in the house without headphones (he had a little amp for that).

One day, son comes home with his guitar and says "Hey, we have new upstairs neighbours, I said hello as they went up the stairs".

Three days later, our friends get a knock on the door from the police. "We've had complaints about noise coming from your house. Your son is playing heavy metal at all hours of the day. Please make him stop." Our friends are confused, they hadn't been away, their son was definitely not making any noise. A couple more similar visits followed, with threats of court action (I don't remember the exact legal context, it wasn't in the UK).

A week later, upstairs held their first party. A full-on rave until 5am. Our friends, groggily not realising what had been set up, finally called the police, who were monumentally unsympathetic. "Oh yes? Not just getting revenge, are you?". And the raves and banging and shouting just continued after that, and the police basically stopped answering the phone

It took about 18 months to sort out, once three other sets of neighbours had gotten involved. It turned out that the people upstairs had been forced to leave their previous flat in another town due to their noise and so they had decided to poison the well when they arrived in their new place, and blaming our friends' son's guitar was a perfect excuse. First-mover advantage, it's called. Utter psychopaths. You just have to hope that you will get through life with as little interaction as possible with this kind of people.

@Bepo77 is the actual neighbour thus the attempt to portray the op as something she is clearly not. There is always one derailer with a chip on their shoulder who is serially offended, in this case someone rather strangely focussed on Butlins. I personally preferred Pontins.You have my sympathies op. You dont need to justify yourself.

I have something similar over the road from me. They seem to make an active effort to be as antisocially load as possible. Last week they loudly discussed the fact that they opened the window as wide as possible even though it was a bit chilly. Lots of drugs involved, really really loud just talking. I have no idea how you can be that loud, it's astonishing. I feel for the people next door. They have young kids and it must be absolutely miserable. I feel your pain!

Wow, that's helpful.