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To ask who I’m supposed to report my CF neighbour to?

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BarkItOff · 20/06/2025 19:49

I live on a new build estate, it’s been up a few years now but the roads are still unadopted so it’s ‘technically’ private.

There is a park on the estate and there are 2 access points to this park. 1 at the entrance to the estate and 1 further down the estate close to a neighbouring estate.

One of the neighbours has put a sign up further down, stating private road, I mean technically yes but public access is still allowed but the CF has also put a chain and padlock on the gate to the path that leads to the park with a sign saying private!

I have been told this was because children from the neighbouring estate were using the park via this entrance and as we pay for the upkeep of the park it’s private. Except it’s not! It’s still a park able to be accessed by anyone. It’s made it particularly annoying for people on this side of the new build estate that have children as you have to walk all the way round to the front to get onto the park when there is literally a gate that leads to an access path right in front of you. And those of us that walk dogs there like to walk full circle, in one end and out the other and now we have to double back.

As the roads are unadopted will the council sort this and point out that she doesn’t own the park. The builders are long gone and we’re a nightmare to chase up snagging never mind anything else so they will be no help. The management company doesn’t want to know and say it’s not their responsibility. I’m tempted to go and cut the chain but I guess that’s criminal damage as she owns the chain.

OP posts:
BarkItOff · 25/06/2025 21:22

LookingAtMyBhunas · 24/06/2025 20:20

For God's sake can everyone please stop suggesting this.
Yes it's criminal damage as the padlock belongs to her.
No the police wouldn't be involved unless you did this and she reported you OP.
She seems very much the type who would.
I'm a police officer. Had no choice but to bring someone in (albeit voluntarily) who had been victim of their neighbours harassment for months and months and had finally snapped and thrown a stone at their window. Their neighbour of course had reported them straight away. Go through the proper channels such as council etc and don't give this silly woman any excuse.

Yes I am well aware that while she doesn’t own the gate, she owns the chain and lock and she absolutely would report it! She seems to spend almost all her day watching the road outside her house and telling children they can’t walk past there / climb the gate that they wouldn’t need to climb if she hadn’t locked it etc.

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Gingercar · 24/06/2025 20:36

Bang on her door at 6am and ask her to unlock the gate for you. Every morning. Get someone else to knock five minutes later. Keep bugging her.

goingroundthebendatthisrate · 24/06/2025 20:28

BarkItOff · 24/06/2025 19:48

I mean it’s technically private as in unadopted and so the residents pay for road maintenance but it’s not private in the sense that it belongs to any particular house and it is still a road that can be accessed by the general public. So I own as much of the road as she does regardless of where our houses are (mine is round the corner from her) as we all pay an equal amount to maintain all the roads not our individual road.

Right, so who do you pay it to?

LookingAtMyBhunas · 24/06/2025 20:21

Saladleaves17 · 24/06/2025 20:16

I’d just cut it off and not worry about any disguise as it makes it seem like you are doing something wrong. She doesn’t own the gate, she has no right to prevent access to a public park. She can report all she wants but the police won’t do anything and if they do bother to come out they will probably tell her the exact same thing.

The padlock belongs to her. That's the issue.

OP do not cut the lock.

LookingAtMyBhunas · 24/06/2025 20:20

stargirl1701 · 20/06/2025 21:50

Bolt cutters. Every time. Public access must be maintained under The Outdoor Access Code.

For God's sake can everyone please stop suggesting this.
Yes it's criminal damage as the padlock belongs to her.
No the police wouldn't be involved unless you did this and she reported you OP.
She seems very much the type who would.
I'm a police officer. Had no choice but to bring someone in (albeit voluntarily) who had been victim of their neighbours harassment for months and months and had finally snapped and thrown a stone at their window. Their neighbour of course had reported them straight away. Go through the proper channels such as council etc and don't give this silly woman any excuse.

MedievalNun · 24/06/2025 20:17

Another vote for Fire Service. What happens if there’s an emergency right next to that gate & emergency services have to take the long route in? (They would just cut it but.) Them, the mgt company, the council and the bolt cutters in that order.

Again, no legal expertise but if she did report the removed padlock, I imagine she would have to prove she had authority to padlock the gate in the first place.

Saladleaves17 · 24/06/2025 20:16

I’d just cut it off and not worry about any disguise as it makes it seem like you are doing something wrong. She doesn’t own the gate, she has no right to prevent access to a public park. She can report all she wants but the police won’t do anything and if they do bother to come out they will probably tell her the exact same thing.

WineNoMore20 · 24/06/2025 20:10

Oh I thought we were the only ones with this type of CF. Ours is the only remaining trustee of the management company. Has bolted the park, used funds from maintenance to plant spiky trees to prevent walkers, put multiple ‘private’ signs. A complete nightmare. Was told to fuck off at a parish council meeting by the elected member! It’s only the residents that can resolve it through the management company- good luck these types are indefatigable!!

Fusedspur · 24/06/2025 19:53

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 22/06/2025 16:27

Well if you don’t want to cut the bolt off because she’ll see, time to get angry. Go knock on her door and say you are really cross about the lock being put on the gate stopping people from your estate using the gate, did she see who put it on as you are going to report them. (Be vague about who you’re going to report to). Say that you know lots of the estate are angry about it and you’d hate to be the person who did this when it all comes out. Go knock about selfish people limiting other residents (get in a thing about all the dog walkers hate not being able to do a loop). Say you’re going to borrow some bolt cutters tomorrow and cut it off. You’re going to go door to door and see if you can work out who you’d unreasonable neighbour is. Let’s see if it she sneaks out in the night and takes it off.

This. All day long. The cheeky fucker.

BarkItOff · 24/06/2025 19:48

goingroundthebendatthisrate · 22/06/2025 17:11

This is what I was thinking. The fact that the OP describes the road as "technically" a private road confuses me, because it either is or it isn't. Eitherway, if not the Council, someone has to be the owner of it, whether that's a person or company, or each of the freeholders having a share of it.

I accept that what this neighbour has done is probably wrong on many levels, but my question is are you any more in the right to challenge it if it is that the owner(s) of said road are yet to complain?

Edited

I mean it’s technically private as in unadopted and so the residents pay for road maintenance but it’s not private in the sense that it belongs to any particular house and it is still a road that can be accessed by the general public. So I own as much of the road as she does regardless of where our houses are (mine is round the corner from her) as we all pay an equal amount to maintain all the roads not our individual road.

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goingroundthebendatthisrate · 22/06/2025 17:11

Ponderingwindow · 22/06/2025 16:57

If you send your money to the management company for park maintenance, then it is their problem to deal with. You are paying them to manage estate issues. The exception would be if there is a board of elected residents that oversees the management company and the management company is only in charge of logistics.

This is what I was thinking. The fact that the OP describes the road as "technically" a private road confuses me, because it either is or it isn't. Eitherway, if not the Council, someone has to be the owner of it, whether that's a person or company, or each of the freeholders having a share of it.

I accept that what this neighbour has done is probably wrong on many levels, but my question is are you any more in the right to challenge it if it is that the owner(s) of said road are yet to complain?

Ponderingwindow · 22/06/2025 16:57

If you send your money to the management company for park maintenance, then it is their problem to deal with. You are paying them to manage estate issues. The exception would be if there is a board of elected residents that oversees the management company and the management company is only in charge of logistics.

MsFogi · 22/06/2025 16:55

Council - someone in our area put a 'Private Road' sign on our unadopted road. It was reported and the council had it down within hours - they appear not to take kindly to people privatising roads/access etc

thismummydrinksgin · 22/06/2025 16:48

Also she must have to charge that doorbell, I’d maintain surveillance and pounce!

thismummydrinksgin · 22/06/2025 16:47

Get a local councillor involved they will know who to liase with, potentially go and talk to her. If you’re brave enough I’d confront her and explain it’s making it inconvenient for families, could you have a key etc

923a56712 · 22/06/2025 16:33

The road may well be unadopted but I assume its still a local authority park and so personally id report it the council and a local councillor too

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 22/06/2025 16:27

Well if you don’t want to cut the bolt off because she’ll see, time to get angry. Go knock on her door and say you are really cross about the lock being put on the gate stopping people from your estate using the gate, did she see who put it on as you are going to report them. (Be vague about who you’re going to report to). Say that you know lots of the estate are angry about it and you’d hate to be the person who did this when it all comes out. Go knock about selfish people limiting other residents (get in a thing about all the dog walkers hate not being able to do a loop). Say you’re going to borrow some bolt cutters tomorrow and cut it off. You’re going to go door to door and see if you can work out who you’d unreasonable neighbour is. Let’s see if it she sneaks out in the night and takes it off.

DriveMeCrazy1974 · 22/06/2025 15:48

Be careful about cutting lock off, I think the police could prosecute you for damage to her property (the lock). At least that's what I was told when we thought somebody had stolen our son's bike and used a lock on it. We wanted to retrieve it, but got told that it would be criminal damage to break the lock.
Ridiculous, I know.

InterIgnis · 22/06/2025 15:35

MimiSunshine · 22/06/2025 15:20

go out at night and dress admin black

Boring. Dress up as Big Bird and do it.

HatsOffToThePigeons · 22/06/2025 15:33

I'd treat this the same as when private landowners block public footpaths. www.ramblers.org.uk/go-walking-hub/getting-obstructions-removed-paths

MimiSunshine · 22/06/2025 15:20

BarkItOff · 20/06/2025 20:05

It’s directly across from her front door so her ring camera will pick it up and I just know she’s the type to report criminal damage seeing as she believes she solely owns the park.

go out at night and dress admin black

Funnyduck60 · 21/06/2025 21:56

I would contact the developer and then your local councillors. On my estate we still have roads not adopted after 25 years!

amicisimma · 20/06/2025 21:51

I agree with PP that you should talk to the Council. Get hold of a copy of the local Ordnance Survey map (library, buy one, etc) which will show public footpaths.

You could ask the Ramblers' Association for advice as they're very hot on keeping Rights of Way open, even if this one doesn't quite fall into their remit. It might, though.

stargirl1701 · 20/06/2025 21:50

Bolt cutters. Every time. Public access must be maintained under The Outdoor Access Code.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 20/06/2025 21:50

I'd invest in not only shiny bolt cutters of my very own, but a range of entertaining costumes in which to appear while removing said obstruction. Money well spent. I bet she's the type who moans about children being on screen too much, too... 🙄