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New online trend to say it's better not to wear sunscreen

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Mummabear04 · 20/06/2025 12:31

Has anyone else come across this? People claiming sunscreen is carcinogenic and that you shoud never use it. These people are not even putting it on their kids?! Am I the only one who thinks this is absolute madness?

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partyboat356 · 20/06/2025 14:52

Yes, OP, I think YABVU to say it's 'madness' and why would you not just 'slap it on.' The situation is far more complicated and nuanced than that.

Just a quick question to Chatgpt came up with this. The fears are not unfounded or the result of conspiracy theories. They have a reasonable foundation.

Chemical UV Filters
These are active ingredients that absorb UV radiation.
a. Oxybenzone

  • Risk: Hormone disruption, allergic reactions, and coral reef damage.
  • Why: Studies suggest it may penetrate the skin and act as an endocrine disruptor. It's also toxic to marine life.
b. Octinoxate (Octyl methoxycinnamate)
  • Risk: Hormone disruption and environmental harm.
  • Why: Similar to oxybenzone, it may mimic hormones and is banned in some areas due to reef toxicity.
c. Homosalate
  • Risk: Potential hormone disruption.
  • Why: Accumulates in the body and may interfere with hormone regulation over time.
d. Avobenzone
  • Risk: Skin irritation and instability in sunlight.
  • Why: Can degrade when exposed to sunlight unless stabilized with other chemicals.
2. Mineral (Physical) UV Filters These are generally considered safer but not entirely without concerns. a. Zinc Oxide & Titanium Dioxide (especially in nanoparticle form)
  • Risk: Inhalation hazards and potential cellular damage.
  • Why: Inhalation of nanoparticles (e.g., in spray or powder sunscreens) could cause lung irritation or oxidative stress, though skin penetration is minimal.
3. Fragrances and Preservatives Often added for product appeal and shelf life. a. Fragrances
  • Risk: Allergic reactions and skin irritation.
  • Why: Can contain allergens and sensitizers, especially in sensitive individuals.
b. Parabens (e.g., methylparaben, propylparaben)
  • Risk: Hormone disruption.
  • Why: May mimic estrogen and accumulate in body tissues.
c. Methylisothiazolinone (MI)
  • Risk: Strong allergen.
  • Why: Associated with contact dermatitis, especially in leave-on products like sunscreen.
4. Spray Sunscreens
  • Risk: Inhalation of active ingredients and reduced effectiveness.
  • Why: Spraying can lead to inhalation of harmful particles, especially in children, and uneven application may reduce UV protection.
5. Contaminants
  • Example: Benzene contamination (a known carcinogen).
  • Risk: Cancer risk.
  • Why: Detected in some sunscreen products due to manufacturing issues.
6. Environmental Concerns
  • Risk: Coral bleaching and marine toxicity.
  • Why: Chemicals like oxybenzone and octinoxate can harm aquatic ecosystems even in small concentrations.
WhatATimeToBeAlive · 20/06/2025 14:44

megatwat · 20/06/2025 12:48

I never use it in the UK it is not needed and yes the chemicals are not good for you, i have vit D deficiency

Well, it is. I'm a pale redhead and absolutely need it this time of year.

MyHouseInThePrairie · 20/06/2025 14:25

A few things there
1- the claim isn’t new and has been there for years. Theres a reason why Theres such a huge market fur natural suncream.
2- whilst getting sunburnt is not recommended, nor is puttimg suncream in everyday. The Sun (NOT Vit D) protects from cancer and actually helps if you are diagnosed with cancer (better outcome).
3- the sun isn’t good just vitamin D (which is also the reason why just taking supplements doesn’t quite have the same effect)

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 20/06/2025 14:23

MorrisZapp · 20/06/2025 12:37

I'm a sunscreen sceptic tbh, not because I think it's carcinogenic but because I think there's little need for it in a cold grey country.

I always make sure my DS is lathered up when the sun is strong but I don't believe for a minute that all these beauty gurus always use sunblock. You never see them actually apply it.

Which cold grey country?

GCDPAF · 20/06/2025 14:20

I had a family member get skin cancer from not wearing sunscreen and I’m under a dermatologist for my skin condition who says to always wear factor 50. I’d rather act on those hard facts and wear it.

There is always propaganda/trends on social media, it’s why I don’t use that, that’s the thing that is bad for people’s health!

Doitrightnow · 20/06/2025 14:20

I've seen a rise in concern over sunscreen, particularly on upf avoidance groups where people are also seeking healthier cosmetics.

Personally I loathe wearing sunscreen, so I just stay in the shade or wear long sleeves and a big hat. Works for me.

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 20/06/2025 14:18

sparebooks · 20/06/2025 12:37

Haven’t seen this online but I don’t think it’s madness, necessarily. If you cover up/use a hat and in the summer try to avoid direct sunlight say 11am-3pm, you can easily avoid using sunscreen.

Read up on the health risks resulting from a lack of Vitamin D, as opposed to the risks from skin cancer.

I don’t know. I burned very slightly last night between 5 and 6 pm while sat in the shade and under a parasol in a north facing garden. Very annoyed at myself for thinking I didn’t need sunscreen.

Rosecoffeecup · 20/06/2025 14:17

LifeExperience · 20/06/2025 14:03

There are 3 main types of skin cancer--squamous cell carcinoma, basal cell carcinoma and melanoma. The first two are slow growing and, while they can be disfiguring, are almost never deadly. Melanoma is deadly.

The medical press conflates all 3 types, which is journalistic malpractice. The first two can be prevented by suncream. Deadly melanoma, however, is NOT directly caused by the sun. It is a failure of the immune system, the risk of which is greatly reduced by keeping optimum levels of vitamin d. My doctor checks my vit d levels every year to make sure I stay in range and tells me how much to take, which is 5000 IU per day for me.

In the UK you don't have enough sun to keep optimum levels without supplementation. I live in Florida, am outside every day and still have to supplement vitamin d to maintain optimal levels, and I am a Caucasian of northern European ancestry (i.e., very pale.)

I only use suncream when I will be near the water for an extended period of time. I also use a retinol product on exposed areas every evening, which prevents squamous and basal cell carcinoma from forming. My dermatologist, who checks my skin for incipient cancer every year, approves of this.

Vitamin d is essential to reduce the risk, if not prevent, many types of cancer. If you insist on using suncream please supplement with vitamin d and get tested regularly by your GP.

Sorry, you think melanoma isn't caused by UV? Blimey someone better tell Cancer Research and the NHS

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/melanoma/risks-causes

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/melanoma-skin-cancer/causes/

Risks and causes of melanoma skin cancer

The risk of developing melanoma skin cancer depends on many things including how much ultraviolet radiation you get from the sun and your skin type.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/melanoma/risks-causes

Tiddlywinksrus · 20/06/2025 14:17

I am not religious about it
I use a facecream with factor 30
I use sunscreen in kids on holiday

I think over use where people are like putting factor 50 on kids for school is mental.

But ai do think that burning is risky.

I get both sides.

IcedPurple · 20/06/2025 14:16

Oatshakenespresso · 20/06/2025 12:41

Technically they are not wrong. Suncream is actually really toxic however not all of them are. There are plenty of brands that are less toxic and more expensive ones that are more natural.
people are misinformed and don’t do their own research

they absolutely should be wearing it and putting it on their children

Suncream is actually really toxic

How do you define 'toxic' and what ingredients in sunscreen are 'toxic'?

Also, what's a 'natural' sunscreen?

Springtimehere · 20/06/2025 14:16

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Bobnobob · 20/06/2025 14:16

Not wearing suncream because it’s carcinogenic? Do you know what IS carcinogenic? The sun!!

Bobnobob · 20/06/2025 14:14

sparebooks · 20/06/2025 12:37

Haven’t seen this online but I don’t think it’s madness, necessarily. If you cover up/use a hat and in the summer try to avoid direct sunlight say 11am-3pm, you can easily avoid using sunscreen.

Read up on the health risks resulting from a lack of Vitamin D, as opposed to the risks from skin cancer.

You won’t get a vitamin D deficiency by wearing sunscreen on a hot day. Can you provide examples of people who have experienced this?!

summersun25 · 20/06/2025 14:14

ReginaaPhalangee · 20/06/2025 14:03

I saw Lauryn Goodman post about that - says she’s trying to build up the kids melanin naturally, now all of a sudden she’s changed her tune to using organic sun creams now after she got a bit of backlash.

each to their own if they don’t want to use sun cream, but don’t put your kids in danger by not protecting their skin!

Edited

Kelsey Parker as well now saying she uses a mix of stuff including beeswax. Sorry for DM link! The social media comments on it are all “well done her, toxic, the sun upgrades our DNA…”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14823651/Kelsey-Parker-fire-admitting-doesnt-SPF-children-lathers-organic-sunscreen-instead.html?ito=social-facebook-video&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLCPaRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHj7bcVAVPPhFaCWy6N2QDHAvN4g2mBsFQFu8qOJbnq3WaCexuLmbePZ_k2_Z_aem_nbSo-Mes95ESdSG3rghc5A

Kelsey Parker blasted as she admits she doesn't put sunscreen on kids

The podcast host made the shock confession in the latest episode of Mum's The Word!, a show about 'the secret world of parenting'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14823651/Kelsey-Parker-fire-admitting-doesnt-SPF-children-lathers-organic-sunscreen-instead.html?ito=social-facebook-video&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLCPaRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHj7bcVAVPPhFaCWy6N2QDHAvN4g2mBsFQFu8qOJbnq3WaCexuLmbePZ_k2_Z_aem_nbSo-Mes95ESdSG3rghc5A

Foreverm0re · 20/06/2025 14:12

I’ve seen an awful vlogging family spouting this online whilst they’re in Dubai with their 6 kids in blistering heat.

Goldenpatchwork · 20/06/2025 14:09

Hate sunscreen on my skin. The children were similar. We’re also red head, light skin so naturally want to stay out of strong sunlight 11:00 to 15:00. This combo is known to be sunlight intolerant, particularly eye-sight. So perhaps the rest of the world is now aligning with us and have returned to the saying - only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midnight sun. Just because the technology is there, doesn’t make its use a solution to a problem.

LiteralLunatic · 20/06/2025 14:09

Alaoap · 20/06/2025 13:52

Sun cancer usually takes time to catch up, I was the youngest by about 20/30 years getting treated for skin cancer at the hospital most were 50 60 and above so the “it didn’t do us harm” is yet to be seen for some people.

I think you are missing my point, @Alaoap. Have you ever been sunburnt or got tanned through a pair of jeans? Do you apply sunscreen under your clothes? Fabric can be a very effective sunscreen, often better than sunscreen. It doesn’t wash or rub off. Not all fabrics provide the same level of protection but all those shiny 1970s man made fabrics have a high UPF because they reflect the radiation 😂 Especially compared to average SPF/UPF of 70s sunscreen.

ReginaaPhalangee · 20/06/2025 14:03

I saw Lauryn Goodman post about that - says she’s trying to build up the kids melanin naturally, now all of a sudden she’s changed her tune to using organic sun creams now after she got a bit of backlash.

each to their own if they don’t want to use sun cream, but don’t put your kids in danger by not protecting their skin!

elastamum · 20/06/2025 14:03

I am of an age that good sunblock wasn't available when I was small. I remember getting painfully sunburned and always made sure this never happened to my DC. My fair skinned university flatmate who was bought up in Africa died in her 50s of skin cancer. Imo it's neglectful not to put sunscreen, hats and appropriate clothing on your kids in high summer.

LifeExperience · 20/06/2025 14:03

There are 3 main types of skin cancer--squamous cell carcinoma, basal cell carcinoma and melanoma. The first two are slow growing and, while they can be disfiguring, are almost never deadly. Melanoma is deadly.

The medical press conflates all 3 types, which is journalistic malpractice. The first two can be prevented by suncream. Deadly melanoma, however, is NOT directly caused by the sun. It is a failure of the immune system, the risk of which is greatly reduced by keeping optimum levels of vitamin d. My doctor checks my vit d levels every year to make sure I stay in range and tells me how much to take, which is 5000 IU per day for me.

In the UK you don't have enough sun to keep optimum levels without supplementation. I live in Florida, am outside every day and still have to supplement vitamin d to maintain optimal levels, and I am a Caucasian of northern European ancestry (i.e., very pale.)

I only use suncream when I will be near the water for an extended period of time. I also use a retinol product on exposed areas every evening, which prevents squamous and basal cell carcinoma from forming. My dermatologist, who checks my skin for incipient cancer every year, approves of this.

Vitamin d is essential to reduce the risk, if not prevent, many types of cancer. If you insist on using suncream please supplement with vitamin d and get tested regularly by your GP.

Reader1303 · 20/06/2025 14:02

Simonjt · 20/06/2025 13:03

There were UV levels of 9 in the midlands yesterday, anything above eight is a high risk of harm from UV rays.

Above 8 is considered very high but sun protection is recommended for UV levels above 3 because even that is considered high enough to damage some skin types.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/sun-uv-and-cancer/the-uv-index-and-sunburn-risk

MammaTo · 20/06/2025 14:01

coolbreezes · 20/06/2025 13:41

Well that's part of the point, that suncream isn't a suitable substitute for other sun safety measures

But I don’t go for other options because I think suncream is toxic, I do it because I’ve got zero tolerance to sun exposure. I think that’s what the OP is questioning.

Muddysocks1 · 20/06/2025 14:01

Sulking · 20/06/2025 13:51

God I hate the sun cream debate. Especially when you don’t protect kids.

skin cancer is horrendous. I’ve witnessed it twice in family members; one dead, one still having chunks of flesh cut out of them every few months in a bid to fight it. Both got it on their head/face; both big time sun-sitters that tanned really well and never wore sun block because they never burned, just tanned to the most golden brown I’ve ever seen.

after witnessing them get skin cancer I will never not send my kids or myself out without it on between March-October. The risk isn’t worth it, even if there are some non-natural slightly nasties in the cream. No different to what’s being pumped into the ham sandwiches you feed your kids, or the chicken nuggets you allow them to have; the diet soft drinks ect. Pick your battles; sun screen is important.

I totally agree on the cancer side

But people are also starting to reduce giving things like ham and other ultra processed foods to their kids/family because of the problems with UPFs.
It is about balance, we’ve massively reduced UPFs, but I still wear normal sunscreen because I haven’t sussed out what is better and affordable because I don’t want the cancer risk (also lost relatives to cancer) BUT I’d like to reduce the toxins from products I’m using.
I think this is becoming a more normal and mainstream stance. people just probably don’t think about it until it affects them - eg. We’ve got fertility issues and so this information is quite readily available in terms of improving fertility and there’s plenty of research that supports it.

Clychaugog · 20/06/2025 13:56

Be interesting to see how Gen X turn out.

Even if you were suncreamed as a child, factor 8 was considered high and we had massive holes in the ozone layer.

FlightCommanderPRJohnson · 20/06/2025 13:54

LiteralLunatic · 20/06/2025 13:48

I don’t usually pull the “it didn’t do us any harm when we were kids” argument 😂 as it’s usually nonsense but parents rarely put sunscreen on children in the UK when I was a child, even in the heatwave of 1976. We spent a lot more time playing outside than the average DC now.

I absolutely agree that everyone needs sun protection but there are other ways to do that effectively in the UK most of the year - sun hats, long sleeves, rash vests etc. We never got sunburnt or even tanned. We always seemed to be under a parasol/sunshade for shade at picnics, barbecues, on the beach etc.

TBH, dressing for the weather/staying out of the sun is probably far healthier than slathering yourself in chemicals and possibly more effective. Nor is there any risk that the sunscreen has been washed or rubbed off.

Edited to clarify that I don’t mean that the sun didn’t harm us, I mean that we were able to protect ourselves in other ways than using sunscreen.

Edited

Not wanting to start a climate change derail but it's hotter now than it was in the 70s.

My parents always put sun cream on us when we were children.

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