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New online trend to say it's better not to wear sunscreen

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Mummabear04 · 20/06/2025 12:31

Has anyone else come across this? People claiming sunscreen is carcinogenic and that you shoud never use it. These people are not even putting it on their kids?! Am I the only one who thinks this is absolute madness?

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Namechangetry · 29/06/2025 10:15

NorthernLoon · 29/06/2025 06:39

Do you have a source for that? You may well be right, but I always hear people talking about being "a pale redhead" and therefore burning more easily. My mum is dark skinned, and does dress relatively conservatively (typically keeps her shoulders and knees covered) but doesnt wear sunscreen and has never burned in the parts of skin that is exposed. Anecdata, I know, but it seems to be a widely accepted myth that fair skin is more vulnerable, if it's a myth.
(As an aside, I had a midwife express surprise that I was finding BF painful because "its usually the paler nipples that's more sensitive" 🫩 so I'm aware that there are myths about darker skin being more... 'robust', and perhaps this is another of them!)

I think that poster meant darker skins need the vitamin D more, not need sun screen more. Pale skin burns more easily

NorthernLoon · 29/06/2025 06:39

Poonu · 20/06/2025 18:04

You're mistaken, darker skins need it more.

Do you have a source for that? You may well be right, but I always hear people talking about being "a pale redhead" and therefore burning more easily. My mum is dark skinned, and does dress relatively conservatively (typically keeps her shoulders and knees covered) but doesnt wear sunscreen and has never burned in the parts of skin that is exposed. Anecdata, I know, but it seems to be a widely accepted myth that fair skin is more vulnerable, if it's a myth.
(As an aside, I had a midwife express surprise that I was finding BF painful because "its usually the paler nipples that's more sensitive" 🫩 so I'm aware that there are myths about darker skin being more... 'robust', and perhaps this is another of them!)

BooneyBeautiful · 23/06/2025 17:32

echt · 21/06/2025 00:30

I'm in Australia and at my annual sight check, the ophthalmologist always asks do I wear sunglasses. I do. It's a standard question here. I have several pairs of good quality ones and wear them whenever it's sunny, all year round. Now I think of it, it has to be very overcast for me not to wear them.

I am the same. I wish someone had told me this when I was younger although, to be fair, I am not sure my parents would have had enough money to be in a position to buy me a decent pair. I definitely would have bought them myself as soon as I started earning. My DM always used to prioritise teeth and feet, so I always had six monthly dental check-ups and always had good quality, well-fitting shoes for school.

Downworth · 23/06/2025 10:16

My brother in law refused to wear sunscreen as he to believed it caused cancer. He had an aggressive melanoma on his head which spread to his skull. Part of the skull has been removed leaving a large dent and skin grafts to cover his brain. He also has had most of his ears removed and painful treatment to numerous skin cancers on his face.
Please wear sunscreen .

Frrrout · 23/06/2025 10:15

summersun25 · 20/06/2025 12:53

That ^^
they’re claiming skin cancer is caused by wearing spf in the sun and not by the sun

most people don’t get enough vitamin d anyway especially if you’re in an office all day. Take a supplement and cover up/wear SPF/go in the shade

Jesus Christ. The claim it’s the sunscreen that gives you skin cancer and not the sun is as ridiculous as the anti vaxx movement. Tell that to all those people who in their 40’s/50’s/60’s grew up not wearing sunscreen and now have skin cancer. Myself included. I’m riddled with sun damage and have had a skin cancer removed in my early 40’s, having never been a sun worshipper, just through incidental exposure in the long term. If the sunscreen doesn’t kill you, the sun might…or maybe the water we drink, air we breathe and vegetables we eat covered in chemicals. Nobody can live entirely risk free, but no way I’m risking my kids burn, or even heavily tan, because even that is UV damage.

TheSwarm · 23/06/2025 09:43

Falingoth · 21/06/2025 23:16

Surely vitamin D deficiency is caused by the lack of UV in the winter months. I can't imagine applying suncream is a big factor.

It's not, at all. Sunscreen doesn't block the production of vitamin d.

Not using sunscreen when it's bright/hot enough to warrant it is utter madness. Yes, it's better to cover up/ stay in shade etc but sometimes that's just not possible.

whistlesandbells · 22/06/2025 15:51

I’m not a massive fan of sun cream tbh. I do put it on my 3-year old. But I prefer to avoid the sun, I cover up and don’t go out in heat. Other times of the year, it is so grey that any vitamin D is always welcome.

worrieddaughterr · 22/06/2025 12:29

Idiots. My best mate and I were talking about our skincare routines, I explained mine and mention spf 50 doing my face and neck mainly due to using strong retinoids, she then said oh I don’t use suncream because of the nasty ingredients in them cause cancer, so I told her about mineral ones, which she said would be too expensive 🤷‍♀️

Chipsahoy · 22/06/2025 12:13

I rarely use it on my kids but they wouldn’t ever sit out in it, if they were (say sports day) then I put sun cream on. Otherwise they always wear T-shirts and hats never sleeveless.

Whosenameisthis · 22/06/2025 12:01

Wornouttoday · 22/06/2025 11:41

Have you checked the chemicals on your shower gel, shampoo, toothpaste, body cream, moisturiser, every item of food and drink you consume? Do you check the lead levels in the air you breathe or the airborne pesticides in any fields you walk through?

Me? Actually I do, but only because I used to work in the industry as a chemist and like to look at all the scary sounding chemicals that I know are vinegar and the chemical names for completely natural ingredients 😂

Wornouttoday · 22/06/2025 11:41

Whosenameisthis · 22/06/2025 10:21

What about these chemicals:

ergocalciferol
lumisterol
cholecalciferol
22-dihydroergocalciferol
sitocalciferol.

these are all toxic to dogs on skin exposure and ingestion.

Have you checked the chemicals on your shower gel, shampoo, toothpaste, body cream, moisturiser, every item of food and drink you consume? Do you check the lead levels in the air you breathe or the airborne pesticides in any fields you walk through?

Whosenameisthis · 22/06/2025 10:21

megatwat · 20/06/2025 12:48

I never use it in the UK it is not needed and yes the chemicals are not good for you, i have vit D deficiency

What about these chemicals:

ergocalciferol
lumisterol
cholecalciferol
22-dihydroergocalciferol
sitocalciferol.

these are all toxic to dogs on skin exposure and ingestion.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 22/06/2025 10:10

Greenartywitch · 22/06/2025 09:04

I lived in the south of France by the sea when I was a child and teenager.

We could always spot the German and British tourists: they were the ones who had bad sunburns because they were silly enough to not use sunscreen, hats and sunglasses when lying on the beach for hours.

@megatwat · 20/06/2025 12:48
I never use it in the UK it is not needed and yes the chemicals are not good for you, i have vit D deficiency

Of course it is needed in the UK on sunny days...

It is only needed if you are going to be outside, in the sun and with exposed skin. I cover up, stay in the shade and avoid the peak times. I don't need sunscreen unless I'm doing something exceptional. In this heat I'm up dog walking at 5.30am, last walk at 10, 11 pm. I'm not going to burn in the 5 minutes I might be outside in a long sleeve top at midday

Greenartywitch · 22/06/2025 09:04

I lived in the south of France by the sea when I was a child and teenager.

We could always spot the German and British tourists: they were the ones who had bad sunburns because they were silly enough to not use sunscreen, hats and sunglasses when lying on the beach for hours.

@megatwat · 20/06/2025 12:48
I never use it in the UK it is not needed and yes the chemicals are not good for you, i have vit D deficiency

Of course it is needed in the UK on sunny days...

Moveoverdarlin · 22/06/2025 08:59

megatwat · 20/06/2025 12:48

I never use it in the UK it is not needed and yes the chemicals are not good for you, i have vit D deficiency

I’m the same. Rarely use it in the UK.

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/06/2025 08:56

Travelfairy · 20/06/2025 23:37

This isn't madness. There are natural alternatives. Virtually no skin cancers are found on the face, why is that? When all our faces are always exposed. I think there is some truth in it and will start looking into alternatives myself.

I don't think this is true. I looked up 'Common locations for skin cancers'
That’s why the cancer is most common on areas of the skin regularly exposed to the sun, including the face, neck, scalp, shoulders, back and ears.
ExDp's father fought in Africa in WW2. 20 yrs later had scalp lesion problems because of all the sun.

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/06/2025 08:52

megatwat · 20/06/2025 12:48

I never use it in the UK it is not needed and yes the chemicals are not good for you, i have vit D deficiency

Hahahaha - not needed in the UK? Complete fallacy. Just go to the beach on a hot day and look at people. Sunburn everywhere. Less now than in the 60s, admittedly.

Sharptonguedwoman · 22/06/2025 08:46

MorrisZapp · 20/06/2025 12:37

I'm a sunscreen sceptic tbh, not because I think it's carcinogenic but because I think there's little need for it in a cold grey country.

I always make sure my DS is lathered up when the sun is strong but I don't believe for a minute that all these beauty gurus always use sunblock. You never see them actually apply it.

I spent a summer, working in a holiday camp shop in the early 80s. Never seen so much sunburn in my life, southern England.
Also us pale skinned people need sunscreen or we just fry. Factors 30-50 normally, in summer.

Whosenameisthis · 22/06/2025 08:43

I strongly suspect “natural” suncream is only different in the marketing.

the active ingredient will be the same- no amount of aloe or chamomile will protect you from the sun. Then it’s just a carrier cream, which again, will be the same, maybe just “vitamin C” instead of “ascorbic acid” etc.

personally I think if you’re slathering petroleum on your skin daily anyway - most creams and emollients are petroleum based- sunscreen won’t be much worse.

i saw an ad for “non toxic” sunscreen yesterday, because of course toxic ones get past h&s and all the testing 🙄

summersun25 · 21/06/2025 23:38

Falingoth · 21/06/2025 23:16

Surely vitamin D deficiency is caused by the lack of UV in the winter months. I can't imagine applying suncream is a big factor.

I don’t get why people are so adverse to supplementing given you’re not getting any meaningful amount from October - March
plus if you work inside you’re also not getting any then so that leaves weekends
my level was 9 and it took a high dose course and months of taking 4000IU daily to get it to 66. My friend works outside all year round and was deficient

Lalalalalalalalalalaoohoohwee · 21/06/2025 23:20

It's utterly ridiculous and just the latest health conspiracy theory. Sure, if you're slathering suncream on your whole body multiple times a day 365 days a year then the risk might be slightly higher. But there's no scientific evidence that suncream is more risky than sun exposure. I see a lot of people recommending Ultrasun as an alternative but it's failed Which's UVA test.

Falingoth · 21/06/2025 23:16

Surely vitamin D deficiency is caused by the lack of UV in the winter months. I can't imagine applying suncream is a big factor.

HangingOver · 21/06/2025 22:48

I live a very hippy part of the country and there's a LOT of it here.

They're always bright red and aging like raw milk

coolbreezes · 21/06/2025 22:45

Skybluepinky · 21/06/2025 20:41

It’s not a new thing, but those that don’t use sunscreen make sure their kids are covered up and don’t got outside when the suns at its hottest, which is much safer than sending kids outside with sunscreen and shorts and Tshirt, thinking that they are being safe.

Exactly. All those posts where people are talking like the "best " parenting is to have your children out all day covered in suncream. But I have always quietly judged people who didn't organise their day to be put of the worst of the sun when necessary. There's a reason most Mediterranean countries have a siesta.

I do use suncream on my children, but in priority order ahead of that

  • we stay inside wherever possible for the hours in the middle of the day
  • if we have to be out all day sometimes (rare) we would be looking for shade/covering up
  • suncream is the third line of defence not the first!
RedBeech · 21/06/2025 22:24

sparebooks · 20/06/2025 12:37

Haven’t seen this online but I don’t think it’s madness, necessarily. If you cover up/use a hat and in the summer try to avoid direct sunlight say 11am-3pm, you can easily avoid using sunscreen.

Read up on the health risks resulting from a lack of Vitamin D, as opposed to the risks from skin cancer.

This. Most Brits are Vit D deficient. I almost never used sunscreen on my very fair DC and I never use it myself. I'm also fair. We need the Vit D. DC only ever had it on the tips of their noses and ears and over their shoulders when very young on beaches. But once they were school age, they'd cover up with tees and hats once the sun was too strong. Otherwise, getting a bit of sun on skin and Vit D was good for them. I had lots of friends and family who thought I was mad but DC never got burned. Nor do I. I've been outside most of today - bare arms. Caught a touch of sun - not much - certainly not burned. I need the Vit D badly.