Assisted dying for paedophiles and life-prisoners

Even if I were wrongly convicted, if the case had been compelling enough to get me sentenced to life I’d probably take the option to prevent the torture of knowing I was innocent and potentially serving decades.

Weird. Some people are against the assisted dying bill in case there is coercion involved... yet here you are actually advocating for it.

YABU

Liz Carr who is an actress who was in silent witness made a very interesting documentary about assisted dying and it's possible effects on disabled people it was horrifying how some people were being treated as if their lives had no value.

But we are talking about people who are terminally I'll they can't get better .but they can have a peaceful dignified death surrounded by people of there choosing on there own terms.

I dunno, it's also a mildly amusing way of showing that he OP knows the topic is likely to produce some heated - and maybe even intelligent debate.

"In a land where you can only type, no one can hear your tone of voice".

(And that is why I wasn't asked to write the strapline for "Alien" 😀)

Unless of course they were wrongly convicted, which happens pretty regularly.

Ridiculous impact.

It costs between 40k and 50k PA to house a prisoner in a UK jail depending on prisoner type.

The majority of people just don’t think in pure economic terms, if people did think in pure economic terms then it would be a vote winner.

And if you are trying to make some point about the assisted dying bill being shit then that's just really stupid.

At first I thought OP was just being a goady twat, but on reflection I think it’s a very well made point.

What a week it’s been, what depths our society is sinking into.

It won’t happen in the UK, although I do think that foreign nations such as the convicted rapist Chinese student, should be returned to their own countries to face justice.

Sadly there are many people who are stuggling with their lives and their mental health and many do choose to end their own life. We want to help them get better, not make it easier for them with a state sponsored euthanasia procedure.

You've got a point OP. The 'assisted dying' bill is a state death penalty for innocents - the disabled, the unwanted, the ill and therefore expensive and the elderly with grabby relatives. Every safeguard has been stripped away. How posters can defend that but not the killing of the worst criminals is between them and their conscience I suppose, ethical political frameworks have long been pushed aside by jumping on the bandwagon of whatever the so-called left classes as a trendy issue.

Discuss? Who are you, the great teacher of morals?

Discuss…

Hate it when people say this, as though they've given their 'audience' food for thought with their intelligent outpouring 🥱

also….i work in a prison. Bring out those options and most of us would likely leave the job…..
and there’s not many of us left as it is!

not to mention the knock on effect to other prisoners mental health.

I know! I switched off at that point!

By paedophiles, do you mean convicted child abusers?

Plenty of paedophiles obey the law and have done nothing to hurt anybody. Why should we be any keener to murder them than you?

Just confused what the actual point behind it is. Is it to make society safer by having fewer child abusers around? Or is it to relieve people of the burden of having to live their whole life without sexual fulfilment?

Don’t kid yourself.

This kind of legislation is designed so that old and disabled people can be killed off ‘legally’. In Canada, there have been documented cases of depressed people being offered assisted dying, a bit of gentle coercion.

After all the ‘enlightened’ in this country have form for this. Not so long ago, they started mutating children in the name of progressive gender identity.

Hmmm! Started on the sherbet a bit early have we?

You don't understand... anything.

Well it didn’t take long for nasty people to suggest new uses for assisted dying. I’d like to say I was surprised.

I know.

I'm embarrassed for those who did.

So when a person with a mental health issue or learning difficulty or lesser extent a normal person is wrongly charged and they accept the payment to be killed by your method as they feel its the right thing to do or feel pressured and we discover they were wrongly convicted what are you going to do OP?

This sort of thing is why I would always vote against assisted dying. It's the start of a slippery slope you only have to look at the situation in Canada to see that.

Some criminals may also have or will develop terminal illness during their incarceration. I think there was an amendment to maid in Canada to allow it to be carried out for those in custody of federal facilities.

Its not a massive stretch to think that those with guilty consciences may have “unbearable suffering “ which is the Dutch standard.

The slippery slope arguement would tell us that in a few decades it’d be an option. It’s unpalatable but honestly why spend hundreds of thousands of pounds keeping someone alive who’d rather be dead. What does society gain?