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Break in at Brize Norton two jets damaged

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justasking111 · 20/06/2025 09:32

I'm stunned that the base used by the prime minister, ministers, the royal family VIPs from overseas can be breached like this so easily.

Apparently by a Palestinian organisation.

We can't even defend on our own soil

"Two e-scooter riding pro-Palestine activists breach RAF Brize Norton and sabotage two... - LBC" https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/raf-planes-sabotaged-palestine-protesters-brize-norton-security-breach/

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LakieLady · 21/06/2025 14:51

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 20/06/2025 16:39

From the vid I saw they were spraying paint into the engines using a fire extinguisher. That would surely cause a lot of damage.

That was precisely the objective. They didn't want the planes used to aid refuelling of planes in Israel's war. Afaik, Palestine Action restrict their actions to property, not people, and I think banning protest movements that don't actually harm people is absurd. This lot would probably have banned the Greenham women if they'd been in power in the early 80s.

My understanding is that Palestine Action's objective is to hinder Israel's ability to carry on their (probably) illegal war in Gaza. They've succeeded in getting at least one company making stuff for the Israeli military to leave the UK.

I'm appalled that this government is contemplating supporting Israel in this way, especially when the ICC has issued arrest warrants for its PM and defence minister. There's at least a prima facie case that war crimes have been committed. Allowing RAF refuelling planes to assist Israel in suspected war crimes is disgraceful imo and makes the UK complicit in those suspected crimes.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:47

Of course, perimeter security could be another matter. But there's probably alot of shouting going on right now along the lines of "how the fuck did this happen?" All the way down the line. Be interesting to be a fly on those walls.

notimagain · 21/06/2025 14:35

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:32

Just been poking around on Reddit, and it is being claimed that security on bases in the UK is done by Serco and G4S. If that's the case, it's definitely just a duck.

Ah Reddit....

That claim is a bit missleading, at the very least there's possibly a "some" missing.

SerendipityJane · 21/06/2025 14:33

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:32

Just been poking around on Reddit, and it is being claimed that security on bases in the UK is done by Serco and G4S. If that's the case, it's definitely just a duck.

Will nobody think of the shareholders ?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:32

Just been poking around on Reddit, and it is being claimed that security on bases in the UK is done by Serco and G4S. If that's the case, it's definitely just a duck.

notimagain · 21/06/2025 14:32

I understand that, but actually getting close enough to the aircraft to do damage without being under surveillance

Brize...big aircraft based there so mostly have to be parked in the open spread over a wideish area..can't be tucked away in shelters overnight.

Guards to guard...as mentioned previously by me....not enough manpersonpower these days to provide high enough density guarding 24/7.

It also appears not enough money for the sort of fencing/policing/surveillance the really secure places or even places like Heathrow have..

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:24

notimagain · 21/06/2025 14:19

I think one thing to bear in mind is a few (quite low in places) fences and the odd "do not enter" sign only make these secure facilities secure from law abiding citizens..

There are plenty of places (even some civilian airfields) that have better protection than Brize appears to have had.

I understand that, but actually getting close enough to the aircraft to do damage without being under surveillance?

Maybe it is a case of giving them enough rope to hang themselves with as now their "organisation" is illegal as a result of this?

Like I say, I'm a cynic. And I'm interested in this sort of thing in general terms. The ends would appear to have justified the means in this case.

SerendipityJane · 21/06/2025 14:23

Whammyyammy · 21/06/2025 14:12

We can't protect our shores, we cant protect our children and now we can't protect our Military bases... embarrassing

So ? As long as we can protect the wealth of the elites and make sure they never have to pay more tax than possible then what's the problem ?

I fear you may have been deluded into thinking you matter.

notimagain · 21/06/2025 14:19

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:10

Oh, you're probably right, but these days nothing would surprise me is all.

I suppose it's just the "how the hell could that have happened?" incredulity of it. If we now get a slew of reports about how easy it is to get into alleged secure facilities, I'll happily campaign for better security and funding.

I think one thing to bear in mind is a few (quite low in places) fences and the odd "do not enter" sign only make these secure facilities secure from law abiding citizens..

There are plenty of places (even some civilian airfields) that have better protection than Brize appears to have had.

justasking111 · 21/06/2025 14:17

How the hell could that happen. Watching the mess when a young lad took pot shots at trump. And another nut hid on the golf course.

In the first instance the local police warned the special agents there was someone on the rooftop.

It's complacency. Maybe caused by lack of funds for Intel. Or perhaps arrogance.

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Whammyyammy · 21/06/2025 14:12

We can't protect our shores, we cant protect our children and now we can't protect our Military bases... embarrassing

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 14:10

notimagain · 21/06/2025 14:07

I'm not sure how to even begin to answer your first point....

As for the second, there's no mystery about the poor security, it's been worrying a lot of people for years, it's been an increasing worry in the last few months, (Russia, Ukraine etc) and I'm sure I've bored people senseless in a few previous posts explaining why it's got so bad...

Sometimes things are exactly as they appear.

Oh, you're probably right, but these days nothing would surprise me is all.

I suppose it's just the "how the hell could that have happened?" incredulity of it. If we now get a slew of reports about how easy it is to get into alleged secure facilities, I'll happily campaign for better security and funding.

notimagain · 21/06/2025 14:07

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 13:58

Hmph. The cynic in me wonders if there's an element of false flag to this, given that organisations problematic to the state are often infiltrated by state employees. And several terrorist plots in the States have been instigated by said infiltrators engineering enough evidence to bring the potential culprits in before said plot could be executed. Heroes all round eh? Apart from the grooming of some particularly vulnerable souls in person and online.

If not, time to upgrade security as a matter of urgency.

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I'm not sure how to even begin to answer your first point....

As for the second, there's no mystery about the poor security, it's been worrying a lot of people for years, it's been an increasing worry in the last few months, (Russia, Ukraine etc) and I'm sure I've bored people senseless in a few previous posts explaining why it's got so bad...

Sometimes things are exactly as they appear.

Thatladdo · 21/06/2025 14:06

They should have been shot.

Entering military, nuclear and other high consequence sites without permission should should be a death sentance, either during or after the event.

Red lines should be drawn and adhered to.

Throw soup at paintings all day long if it makes you happy, this is a diferent ballgame.

justasking111 · 21/06/2025 14:04

Back in the day my dear friend spent three weeks at Greenham common. Another friend Faslane. No-one was able to wander in with paint back then.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/06/2025 13:58

Hmph. The cynic in me wonders if there's an element of false flag to this, given that organisations problematic to the state are often infiltrated by state employees. And several terrorist plots in the States have been instigated by said infiltrators engineering enough evidence to bring the potential culprits in before said plot could be executed. Heroes all round eh? Apart from the grooming of some particularly vulnerable souls in person and online.

If not, time to upgrade security as a matter of urgency.

lazyarse123 · 21/06/2025 13:45

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 21/06/2025 13:39

It's an exploding head not a fox 😁

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm clearly not good with emojis.

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 21/06/2025 13:39

lazyarse123 · 21/06/2025 13:37

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't understand the fox thing.

It's an exploding head not a fox 😁

lazyarse123 · 21/06/2025 13:37

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 21/06/2025 13:33

Good intentions 🤯

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't understand the fox thing.

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 21/06/2025 13:33

lazyarse123 · 21/06/2025 13:29

Just have a little think about that. What if one of the dictators around the world and god knows there's a few to choose from decided to attack us directly? What would we use for defence?

Good intentions 🤯

lazyarse123 · 21/06/2025 13:29

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 20/06/2025 20:17

I'm glad they took action to stop the UK being as complicit in what's happening to Palestine.

For those that haven't been paying attention up till now, Palestine Action are mostly UK citizens who are alarmed by the fact that our military has been assisting Israel's genocide* for the past few years (from our bases in Cyprus) and have chosen to take effective direct action about it (as marching in our thousands almost every weekend obviously isn't working).

It's not 'terrorism' (and arguably not even a crime, if it prevents a bigger crime) to damage war planes in order to prevent them being used to kill and maim Palestinians of all ages. Whatever Starmer and the Evening Standard say. There is a long, long tradition of anti-war activists taking this kind of action (and in many cases being found not guilty by the courts), and I applaud them.
Check out https://tridentploughshares.org/ for just one example.

I am disgusted by all the 'they should shoot them' commenters. If any of you gave a fuck about 'national security' you'd be pressuring your Govt to stop spending so much on weapons of mass destruction (eg nukes) and put more effort into stopping wars, rather than treating them as an ideal opportunity to sell arms made in this country. And you'd be writing letters of outrage about the lax security on bases like Brize Norton.

Just have a little think about that. What if one of the dictators around the world and god knows there's a few to choose from decided to attack us directly? What would we use for defence?

notimagain · 21/06/2025 13:27

Problem is to "check the engine out" can mean a multitude of things depending on how much paint got into the back end of the thing and possibly penetrated into, for want of a better expression, the deeper workings, behind seals and elsewhere.

One end of the scale the engineers might be happy with quick clean of some sort and then once over with a boroscope, if there are deeper concerns it might well be an engine change so that the unit can go into the workshop, possibly even back to the manufacturer for a complete strip down and rebuild...

A complicating issue is the 330 is a twin engined long range aircraft, that means verses a four engined type you have very strict rules and regs about engine maintenance and less tolerance to very minor damage.

TBH we may never know (unless maybe there's a court case and costs come up) the exact level of damage and what any fix involved.

MissConductUS · 21/06/2025 13:25

Pedallleur · 21/06/2025 12:08

Any paint was in the exhaust. A jet exhaust that burns at 600 degrees C. Someone will check the engines out and it will be fine. Won't need a new engine. People huffing about it but it really is a poor security problem. Good news is it was a couple of people on ebikes with paint not some suicide bombers or foreign agents with Novichok nerve agent.

The engine's been contaminated. It will have to be disassembled, cleaned and inspected before it's considered airworthy. It's the same as if it had ingested volcanic ash or any other contaminant.

And they sprayed the inside of the engine, not the exhaust. Not that it matters, any contamination would have to go through the same remediation procedure.

https://theaviationist.com/2025/06/20/raf-brize-norton-protesters/

Images that surfaced on Jun. 20, 2025, following the breach, showed the starboard rear section of a Voyager KC3 covered in paint splatters, while the inside of the starboard engine was thoroughly covered in paint.

Major Security Breach at RAF Brize Norton Sees Protesters Spray Voyager Aircraft With Paint

The Royal Air Force’s air transport hub was breached by activists belonging to Palestine Action, who sprayed paint inside the engines of an A330 Voyager

https://theaviationist.com/2025/06/20/raf-brize-norton-protesters/

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