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Should skirt length matter in secondary schools?

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Holdonforsummer · 19/06/2025 19:10

My daughter is 15 and in Year 10, she attends an all-girls comprehensive secondary school and they are obsessed with the girls’ skirt length. The skirt is like a tartan kilt and is supposed to be ‘on the knee’ but most of the girls roll their skirts to make them a bit shorter (think mid-thigh). I’m a bit on the fence about this but her school go on and on and on about it. They stop girls all the time, give detentions for short skirts, have assemblies about it, and have even been known to measure skirts and give girls long ones from the list property cupboard to wear instead. Yesterday, my daughter had just finished 5 hours of mock exams in 28 degrees and was walking home - outside school property - and was stopped by a teacher threatening detention even though she had left school. She came home furious and fed up of the whole thing. I can’t decide whether the girls just need to toe the line or whether behaviour from the school is bordering on a sexist, misogynistic obsession. YABU: the pupils need to obey the skirt rules, YANBU: The school should calm down and stop obsessing about skirt length.

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largeprintagathachristie · 20/06/2025 16:40

My school skirt was ahem, fairly short, but there’s many I’m seeing around at the moment that are absolutely MICRO.

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 20/06/2025 16:38

LochKatrine · 20/06/2025 16:31

They call them names, laugh at them. We've had sanctions for eyebrow bullying and eyelash bullying (some girls don't get either done). So yes, they're very judgemental on others' appearance.

What an awful school. Is anything being done to help the girls with their self image and self worth?

maddening · 20/06/2025 16:37

LittleMG · 20/06/2025 16:32

If you can wear it to a smart office you should be ok for school. Girls need to know that there are certain standards in life if you want to be respected. Outside school do whatever you like, inside school rules apply.

No one in my office wears skirts that short

maddening · 20/06/2025 16:36

YorkshireGoldie · 19/06/2025 23:58

I’ve seriously never seen arse cheeks on the school run. Short skirts yes, glad I’m not looking hard enough to notice buttocks flesh

They are short enough that any slight bend eg.to pick up your bag or pen would definitely show arse. And that if.you were unfortunate enough to be walking up the stairs behind them then you would also be shown arse.

If boys were flashing their arses then there would be outrage.

shortsharp · 20/06/2025 16:36

I attended 10am mass this morning at my local Catholic Church. As I was getting out the car one of the pupils in the adjacent Catholic secondary school was walking past with a kilt on that was so short her black pants were on display.

i also went to the same school many moons ago and you wouldn’t have dared show up dressed like that because you’d have been sent home and rightly so.

Ddakji · 20/06/2025 16:36

raffegiraffe · 20/06/2025 16:25

To answer the Aibu..
No, it shouldn't matter it all. It's the fault of the patriarchy and it focuses too much on girls as sexual objects who need to cover up. Bonkers. I support my daughter to wear her skirt however she wants

See, this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that’s so unhelpful. Yes, feminism is about liberation from the patriarchy, but in no way is a girl wearing her school skirt as a belt liberating - but too many like to tell girls this.

Bluevelvetsofa · 20/06/2025 16:33

It seems that the girls round her avoid showing their underwear by wearing thick black tights with their micro skirts. They must feel quite uncomfortable in this hot weather.

LittleMG · 20/06/2025 16:32

If you can wear it to a smart office you should be ok for school. Girls need to know that there are certain standards in life if you want to be respected. Outside school do whatever you like, inside school rules apply.

LochKatrine · 20/06/2025 16:31

Wdfssda · 20/06/2025 16:26

What can be said? "Why aren't you showing off your knickers like us?"

They call them names, laugh at them. We've had sanctions for eyebrow bullying and eyelash bullying (some girls don't get either done). So yes, they're very judgemental on others' appearance.

saraclara · 20/06/2025 16:30

raffegiraffe · 20/06/2025 16:25

To answer the Aibu..
No, it shouldn't matter it all. It's the fault of the patriarchy and it focuses too much on girls as sexual objects who need to cover up. Bonkers. I support my daughter to wear her skirt however she wants

They're not being asked to "cover up". They're being prevented from showing their bum cheeks and the gussets of their pants.

They are overtly sending a sexual signal, and school is no place for that.

Paganpentacle · 20/06/2025 16:29

yomellamoHelly · 19/06/2025 19:34

They roll them up where in the school I'm in. Have learnt not to look up as you go up stairs. There's nothing left to the imagination. Boys are equally embarrassed.
Then in the morning you see girls rolling them up as they leave home (live in the same area as lots of school kids), and I often see the girl next door unrolling her skirt a bit before she walks through her front door at the end of the day.
So i imagine parents just don't know how short their daughters actually wear them.

Of course the parents know... they probably did the same.,
I'm 55... we all rolled our skirts up then, they'll still be rolling them up in 50 years time.

Wdfssda · 20/06/2025 16:26

LochKatrine · 20/06/2025 16:20

They really, really do!

What can be said? "Why aren't you showing off your knickers like us?"

raffegiraffe · 20/06/2025 16:25

To answer the Aibu..
No, it shouldn't matter it all. It's the fault of the patriarchy and it focuses too much on girls as sexual objects who need to cover up. Bonkers. I support my daughter to wear her skirt however she wants

LochKatrine · 20/06/2025 16:20

Needmorelego · 20/06/2025 15:58

Yes I think the "teasing" thing generally doesn't happen as much as people think.
Most teens these days really don't care what their classmates wear.

They really, really do!

Wdfssda · 20/06/2025 16:01

As someone who had kids who went to grammar schools the girls in DS's school dressed normally and had sensible skirts. So did DD and the girls at her school

Needmorelego · 20/06/2025 15:58

Yes I think the "teasing" thing generally doesn't happen as much as people think.
Most teens these days really don't care what their classmates wear.

HonoriaBulstrode · 20/06/2025 15:48

Girls with long skirts get teased.

What about Muslim girls? Are they teased?

You do presumably come down hard on the teasing if you hear it, and don't say that girls with long skirts are 'frumpy'? Because girls should be able to wear what they like without being teased.

SweetnsourNZ · 20/06/2025 15:13

Jgdknbdokn · 19/06/2025 20:14

At my daughter’s school it is so common to have your skirt rolled up that she was regularly teased for wearing it normally. If the staff had been stricter with their uniform standards she wouldn’t have been peer pressured into wearing a skirt that was far shorter than she felt comfortable in.

I work in a school (different one to daughter’s school) and the skirts are so short that bottoms are regularly on show.

Teens love to push boundaries. When skirts were supposed to be knee-length, an inch or two above was sufficient rebellion. Now that the standards have relaxed the skirts have shrunk to minuscule bands that barely cover a thing.

It looks even worse when combined with a blazer longer than the skirt, so that from behind the girl looks like she’s got nothing at all on her bottom half.

I’m not a fan of expensive exclusive uniforms. I believe school clothes should be affordable, practical and durable. Mini skirts are neither practical, nor appropriate.

Yes. Girls with long skirts get teased. Our local High School have a logo on the bottom of the skirt so it can't be shortened permanently, but the girls still roll them up.

stillavid · 20/06/2025 14:56

Sorry, someone asked upthread if the ankle length skirt I mentioned is uniform in the sixth form at my daughter's school - it is.

There are several schools in the UK where this is the same - another poster mentioned Rugby, not my daughter's school but similar set up.

Ddakji · 20/06/2025 14:10

EvilDJ · 20/06/2025 13:17

Many of the girls at the school my DC attend petitioned to be able to wear jumpers instead of blazers as opposed to compulsory blazers with optional jumpers. Their whole argument was pretty much that they didn’t want their bras being visible through their school shirts but blazers and jumpers was too hot.
Perfectly reasonable however those same girls are now complaining they are being told off for wearing skirts that show their bum cheeks. The lack of blazers has really highlighted how short most of the skirts actually are as most of them tuck their jumpers into the skirts. It’s their right to wear short skirts apparently and if bum cheeks are visible then it’s everyone else’s problem not to look.

Which is why schools shouldn’t allow pupils to dictate terms.

EvilDJ · 20/06/2025 13:17

Many of the girls at the school my DC attend petitioned to be able to wear jumpers instead of blazers as opposed to compulsory blazers with optional jumpers. Their whole argument was pretty much that they didn’t want their bras being visible through their school shirts but blazers and jumpers was too hot.
Perfectly reasonable however those same girls are now complaining they are being told off for wearing skirts that show their bum cheeks. The lack of blazers has really highlighted how short most of the skirts actually are as most of them tuck their jumpers into the skirts. It’s their right to wear short skirts apparently and if bum cheeks are visible then it’s everyone else’s problem not to look.

Wdfssda · 20/06/2025 12:17

pharmer · 20/06/2025 11:32

It isn't about distracting boys, it is about decency and following the uniform regulations.

Boys getting visually distracted is natural especially when they are teens. A teenage boy is full of hormones and if a girl is sitting there with with a very short skirt and underwear showing a boy is naturally going to look.

Toddlerteaplease · 20/06/2025 12:15

My school was like this. I always find it shocking how short skirts are. It’s ridiculous.

MiseryIn · 20/06/2025 11:53

Honestly the girls round here literally have their arse cheeks out. It’s not ok.
So yes, they need to enforce it or it just gets ridiculous.
walking up steps behind these girls is seriously obscene.

DownsideUpside · 20/06/2025 11:49

It’s frustrating that this is still an issue decades on. My school insisted on skirts for girls and trousers for boys, then spent the entire time nagging and punishing the girls for their skirts being too short. Every year we petitioned to be allowed trousers and every year denied. Surely the solution if you want girls legs covered is to allow them to cover their legs with trousers?! Or just allow skirts above the knee and focus on grades??!!

Here we are decades later and girls are still being told that what they wear and how they look is the most important thing to everyone, so is it any wonder that younger generations are so focused on clothes and looks?