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Should skirt length matter in secondary schools?

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Holdonforsummer · 19/06/2025 19:10

My daughter is 15 and in Year 10, she attends an all-girls comprehensive secondary school and they are obsessed with the girls’ skirt length. The skirt is like a tartan kilt and is supposed to be ‘on the knee’ but most of the girls roll their skirts to make them a bit shorter (think mid-thigh). I’m a bit on the fence about this but her school go on and on and on about it. They stop girls all the time, give detentions for short skirts, have assemblies about it, and have even been known to measure skirts and give girls long ones from the list property cupboard to wear instead. Yesterday, my daughter had just finished 5 hours of mock exams in 28 degrees and was walking home - outside school property - and was stopped by a teacher threatening detention even though she had left school. She came home furious and fed up of the whole thing. I can’t decide whether the girls just need to toe the line or whether behaviour from the school is bordering on a sexist, misogynistic obsession. YABU: the pupils need to obey the skirt rules, YANBU: The school should calm down and stop obsessing about skirt length.

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ERthree · 21/06/2025 18:37

raffegiraffe · 20/06/2025 18:37

It's her arse. She can do what she wants with it, as can you with yours. She is not saying fuck me, and anyone who thinks she is has the problem. You can equate it to my character, or her's, if you like. But we are the same today in shorts and skirts as we were yesterday in trousers

No she can't do what she wants with it, That is the reply of a teenager. Here in this country we have laws, you can't run down the street naked or lie in the road having sex because you will be arrested for public indecency.

Wdfssda · 21/06/2025 18:04

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:53

So that's a concern in primary where they are very excitable about lunch boxes, but then all bets are off in secondary and dc can do as they wish regarding allergies and healthy eating? They need this same approach to fretting about skirts.

At secondary you get some more level of independence but there are still rules and dress codes to follow.

Skirts should be worn approximately as should boy's trousers.

notacooldad · 21/06/2025 17:59

This post could have been written 45 years ago when I was at school

Teachers going on about skirt length and given detentions out, the lads got detentions for not wearing their ties correctly.
I remember rolling my skirt up as soon as I was out of sight of my house so my mum didn't see me!

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:53

Wdfssda · 21/06/2025 17:48

Allergies and healthy eating.

So that's a concern in primary where they are very excitable about lunch boxes, but then all bets are off in secondary and dc can do as they wish regarding allergies and healthy eating? They need this same approach to fretting about skirts.

Wdfssda · 21/06/2025 17:48

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:30

It's a bit like school dinners. Primary school teachers police lunch boxes obsessively, secondary school teachers have no involvement with what students eat and of course would be laughed out of the cafeteria if they tried to confiscate The Wrong Food They should channel this ethos into uniform micromanaging.

Allergies and healthy eating.

Fetaface · 21/06/2025 17:46

And then they wear short shorts or short gym skirts in PE as that is the uniform the school set.

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 17:41

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Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 17:39

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:30

It's a bit like school dinners. Primary school teachers police lunch boxes obsessively, secondary school teachers have no involvement with what students eat and of course would be laughed out of the cafeteria if they tried to confiscate The Wrong Food They should channel this ethos into uniform micromanaging.

Again, let’s go back to well-being.

Primary school children regularly bring Nutella sandwiches because parents can’t equate the chocolate spread with nuts. This week, two siblings had a cold cheeseburger each in their box. We won’t even go to the grab bag size crisps and bottles of Oasis, because they’re endemic.

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:35

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 17:32

Teachers are also concerned about your child’s well-being. Which I think you’d agree is important. Think about how many sweaty arses have sat in the same plastic chair as your DD this week. Six lessons a day x 5.

Yummy!

God, mine left ages ago. Thankfully college and uni tutors seem to be a different breed compared to militant secondary school teachers who can tell you the length of a dcs skirt but not much else.

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:32

'Given how outraged and indignant they get when told to unroll they don’t seem to have twigged they’ve all been sitting in each others arse and thigh sweat all week.'

Honestly. Such a sneery and derogatory way to talk about schoolchildren. You work in a secondary school, are you a teacher??

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 17:32

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:19

'We can’t do anything about skirt length as parents don’t support us. Whilst many do enough don’t, as is evidenced in this thread.'

Parents want teachers to teach their kids. That's it. Trouser styie/skirt length should be of no concern to a teacher.

Teachers are also concerned about your child’s well-being. Which I think you’d agree is important. Think about how many sweaty arses have sat in the same plastic chair as your DD this week. Six lessons a day x 5.

Yummy!

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:30

It's a bit like school dinners. Primary school teachers police lunch boxes obsessively, secondary school teachers have no involvement with what students eat and of course would be laughed out of the cafeteria if they tried to confiscate The Wrong Food They should channel this ethos into uniform micromanaging.

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 17:24

Allthings · 21/06/2025 17:03

I am not seeing anyone with Nike pros (or any alternative), just what appears to be normal knickers being flashed.

I was throwing that to the cool parents upthread that think the girls are absolutely entitled to roll cause they’re wearing NP’s.

I work in an SS and know for a fact they’re not wearing NP’s, because I get arse cheeks flashed in my face on every staircase. I do not enjoy it.

Given how outraged and indignant they get when told to unroll they don’t seem to have twigged they’ve all been sitting in each others arse and thigh sweat all week.

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 17:19

'We can’t do anything about skirt length as parents don’t support us. Whilst many do enough don’t, as is evidenced in this thread.'

Parents want teachers to teach their kids. That's it. Trouser styie/skirt length should be of no concern to a teacher.

Allthings · 21/06/2025 17:03

I am not seeing anyone with Nike pros (or any alternative), just what appears to be normal knickers being flashed.

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 16:59

I simply don’t understand why the female children’s uniform can’t be a skort or culottes, trousers if preferred.

if you can’t change the behaviour, and you can’t, because the girls that have their skirts rolled this high obviously think they’re the nuts, then change the clothing.

Any cost difference on the skort would be negated by not having to buy Nike pros.

Superhansrantowindsor · 21/06/2025 16:45

Masmavi · 21/06/2025 16:26

Seems ridiculous that schools insist on uniform down to the level of the colour of socks and then do nothing about skirts that are just an extended waistband. It’s not about distracting boys it’s about appropriate clothing for a particular environment. None of those girls could work in an office like that. They can’t even bend down to get something they dropped; they’re restricting themselves.

We can’t do anything about skirt length as parents don’t support us. Whilst many do enough don’t, as is evidenced in this thread.

Wdfssda · 21/06/2025 16:44

I feel when girls get older and approach 18 if they want to wear something risque on a night out, so be it. But at school, come on

Iwillclasptheeagain · 21/06/2025 16:29

School is preparing them for worklife and the wider world. They have to learn what is appropriate and how they will be expected to be behave in adulthood. The school is fighting a tough battle if the parents can't see that.

Masmavi · 21/06/2025 16:26

Seems ridiculous that schools insist on uniform down to the level of the colour of socks and then do nothing about skirts that are just an extended waistband. It’s not about distracting boys it’s about appropriate clothing for a particular environment. None of those girls could work in an office like that. They can’t even bend down to get something they dropped; they’re restricting themselves.

Gloriia · 21/06/2025 16:19

namechangetheworld · 21/06/2025 14:19

My grammar school was absolutely fastidious about uniform and the deputy head would regularly roam the halls with a ruler to make sure everyone's skirts were at least 2 inches below the knee. It didn't do me any harm, and we all looked smarter than the local comp kids, with their skirts rolled up and blouses unbuttoned.

For what it's worth, I don't think it was anything to do with the male gaze - they were equally fastidious about the boy's tie length and blazers. It was about looking smart, respectable, and positively representing the school.

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Itallcomesdowntothis · 21/06/2025 15:20

namechangetheworld · 21/06/2025 14:28

Oh please calm down, I just said their uniforms were a mess - which they were 🙄

Yeah but you could have just said kids at another school. Or another local school. Your bias was showing you got caught and then your response was to tell the other poster to calm down. Perhaps consider how your bias came across in the first place .

Growlybear83 · 21/06/2025 14:55

Fiver555 · 19/06/2025 19:20

It's hygiene. If the skirt can't be ticked under the gusset when sitting, then presumably your gusset is directly on the chair seat. In this weather, that's a bit gross.

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waterrat · 21/06/2025 14:38

I used to go raving as a teen in hotpants and bra so I am hardly a prude...but I am really appalled by girls skirts that I see daily... it's just sad they are allowed by weak adults around them to do it when clearly neither comfy or safe

waterrat · 21/06/2025 14:37

Girls absolutely do have their arsenal cheeks hanging out in my town. Literally entire bums and pants can be seen

It's gross and absolutely not feminist in any way ! As has already been said by many the girls always look very uncomfortable and are constantly pulling at thr back of their skirts

Meanwhile boys bowl along perfectly comfy

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