Should skirt length matter in secondary schools?

I take it your 14 year old ds is not going round with his arse out

I'm confused what you mean.
You don't show your bum in sportswear - because the sportswear is covering it.

And many girls wear shorts under their skirts. Most do in fact. Starts at age 4 with most when 4 year olds get told seeing a piece of fabric is offensive.

I'm surprised you are surprised kids wear knickers to cover their bums. That is what they are designed to do. Showing your bum is sports is ok but a piece of cotton that you do not see deserves what?

PE knickers have always been designed to go over regular knickers.
Despite their name they aren't underwear.
Wearing sportswear in public is very different to being able to see a pair of M+S briefs.

Sounds like she has the wrong size 😂

I do it is part of the rules to teach in sports clothes on days when it is PE. PESSPA state staff much change for PE or be wearing PE clothes. As there are no staff changing rooms (and toilets are not to be used for changing either according to PESSPA) then staff wear them all day. Staff also can wear shorts.

I honestly cannot make a value judgment without seeing their PE uniform. But after looking through photos of my DDs at their school sporting events they had shorts on, and yes it was shorter compared to their school skirts but that's because it's made for sport. Sport is different to lessons. My DS didn't wear his sports kits in history lessons. Students were sent home if they wore jeans like trousers instead of proper formal ones.

As PP said you don't teach in sportswear there's a time and a place for stuff. Main thing is though, the school has a dress code and rules which students should follow. If they break it, so be it, but the school can dish out any uniform related infringements as it sees for. Shirts need to be tucked in, ties done up and skirts for the girls should be at an appropriate length.

If you can't understand that, maybe it's a you issue.

PE knickers are much more revealing than regular uniform. Kids are jumping, twirling, climbing, flipping, bending etc.

They are basically a 2nd pair of knickers so you don't see the first pair when upside down. But school coloured knickers with logos on are acceptable to see?

But your whole point has been that girls shouldn't show anything at school. PE is part of school and they are out in public in school mandated pe uniform which does. It doesn't make sense

They are exactly like knickers. Just called a skort. Like gym knickers. They don't cover buttocks. If you had a really tiny bum they probably wouldn't but not everyone is built like that. My daughter doesn't show her buttocks in her school skirt but she does roll it, and she's wearing tights. So it's ironic that the school mandated skorts do show buttocks don't you think?

They spend a huge amount of time adjusting them and checking if their pants are showing; boys don't do this and are free to spend more of their mental energy on school work.

PE shorts and skorts cover the knickers though.
You don't see the knickers.
That's the difference.

I don't teach in sport clothes and wouldn't be allowed to.

I have also seen too many arse cheeks to know that not all girls wear shorts underneath their skirts. Proper sports skirts with built in shorts usually don't show arse if they fit right. Rolled up skin tight skirts are unpleasant.

Pe clothes and work/professional clothes are different. One is for exercise and the other is for working/studying. I don't know about this specifics schools PE kids but my DDs had sensible normal PE kit.

Someone might go a school swimming lesson in a swimming costume, doesn't mean that outfit would be acceptable in a geography lesson.

All the rules are rules people need to think about how far we would have come as women, had we not challenged them sometimes. No vote, no bank account, no property, marital rape.

Many sports people wear knee length cycling shorts covering the all offensive thigh. If the school is that precious over a normal limb then they should be ensuring that the children do not show skin at any time.

Rolling skirts exposes the thigh. I drive past kids daily and never once have I seen knickers or more. I have seen kids thighs but the thigh is no different to any other part of the leg. It is a leg.

Oh ok. The same school rules that say she has to wear a teeny tiny skort which absolutely doesn't cover her bottom and run around public places doing cross country. So she must have her bottom out in public when running, but must not show top of legs whilst wearing tights and knickers. Yep, makes total sense, thank you.

She's breaking the school rules/dress code which has had to abide by as part of her being a student at that school. Hope that helps.

We had to do that at my school too. It was an ordinary girls grammar school but it was rare for a day to go by when we weren’t stopped at least once and made to kneel on the floor 😆😆

She isn't breaking the law though, or having sex or being naked. I don't understand these extreme reactions

@Fetaface its been standard attire for a lot of years, for both safety and performance and the outfit varies depending on the sport and time of year. Not only are the garments different to business/school wear, but the fabric is different. In a lot of cases the rolling up of skirts is exposing more than a bit of thigh. I certainly have never gone to work exposing my knickers or wearing a pelmet, but I was never running around and stretching quickly in multiple directions at work, or sweating profusely.

When driving past hoards of teenagers coming out of school who don’t necessarily walk sensibly on the footpaths, you do tend to keep your eyes well and truly open to avoid accidents when they cycle unexpectedly into the road, or push each other into it. You obviously have never been in the situation where kids or teens randomly dash across the road in front of you when you in a queue due to traffic lights ahead, so yes, its fairly easy to notice attire out of the norm when you don’t drive with your eyes shut.

So it is fine for sports? So a thigh is a thigh when it comes to sports but it isn't when it comes to everyday wear.

I've never seen a teenagers arse or knickers but then again I don't look.

I had to smile at this post.

I went to boarding school and on a morning we had to kneel on the floor, and our hems had to touch the floor, otherwise detention

ironically the same applied when maxi’s became fashionable, we were told to get our skirts shortened.

My view now, l would have a school age child in a skirt that was knee length or even trousers.

Which is generally normal kit for sports. Arses and knickers on display are not normal attire walking down the street or in the work place/school.