Should skirt length matter in secondary schools?

My guess is Goldenbear lives in a little village (perhaps Scottish) where high schools are sparse

And in school hours, yes absolutely remind them of the rules and hand out detentions.

Out of school hours, he has no right to threaten detention

Plenty of choices when it comes to secondary.

Not to be a fuddy duddy, but I think extremely short school skirts so short you can see the pants is a bit 'tarty' imo. At my eldest's school though, rolling the skirt up is a symbol of status. Technically all girls have to wear the skirt knee-length but in practice the popular girls can roll their skirts up and the teachers let them get away with it, but the unpopular girls can't and have to wear it at knee length. So the popular girls laugh at them for it.

Because of that, most of the unpopular girls wear trousers, my DD included.

Thank you and well said.

I see you short skirts and raise you a number of girls at my school who remove their skirts and just wear tights. Not leggings. Not even a dense denier of hosiery. We can see the 'shadow' of the top of the tights even though they try to pull their shirts/ blouses,and blazers down.
We are trying to establish at the moment if it's a social media trend or something grim like gangs.
All male staff have been instructed to not engage with them.
We are moving female staff around to cover lessons with classes that these girls are in.
Parents have said what happens in school is nothing to do with them.
The boys are incredibly uncomfortable and some of the KS3 boys are distressed because these girls are twirking in corridors or on the yard.
It's an ongoing safeguarding issue but according to SMT)SLT we are awaiting guidance. LADO is informed allegedly.

What is this school choice you talk of!

Below the knee is easier as if it's above then how far above is acceptable can be subjective, difficult to measure and easy to argue about but if it is below then it's clearer!

It isn't a lie where I live as a drop my DD if she's going to be late and I can see that it is a rarity. Perhaps it is your locality.

Some people do.
Also many people don't actually choose the school. They are simply allocated one.

But part of the development of a teenager is to rebel. If there weren’t stupid rules about what to wear, I am sure they wouldn’t roll them up. And it is misogynistic - half the boys I see in uniform have their pants on show too, but they don’t get detention. There are far fewer rules for boys uniforms than girls.

She had left. She was on her way home from school, how can a teacher threaten detention in this situation? What exactly is wrong with what she did?

it’s not like she’s wearing her uniform and mugging old ladies or committing arson, just walking…… trying to get comfortable…… in 28°C heat. Sounds like common sense trying to keep cool

You can see who never broke any school rules on this thread, hardly a shocker is it- Teenager doesn't want to conform or dress like their parents! Just because you may have been completely above tribal influence as a teenager, it doesn't mean it is regular behaviour.

I think I do, yes! Is it one with different coloured blouses, all of which clash hideously with the shirt and jumper? If not, there's another Catholic school further south with a uniform almost as hideous as the one I'm thinking of.

My school is over several floors and a couple of buildings, my duty spot is at the bottom of a set of stairs, the amount of bare arses I see walking up the stairs because their skirts are so short and they have thongs on is ridiculous. It’s not as easy as looking away as they congregate on the stairs so part of my duty is to keep checking up too. I don’t want to see teenage girls arses, I’ve a young male colleague that feels even more uncomfortable with this, he’s asked me to speak to them because he’s worried if it comes from him it will be twisted. If I can see it the 700 other students can see it, and the 80 other staff members can see it, yes teenagers want to push boundaries but as adults we need to correct them.

Imagine if the teenage boys were purposely flashing and forcing others to see what they don’t want to see.

I think it's horrible for girls self esteem & body image when they have peer pressure to have so much leg on display.

It's the age where you realize that not everyone has a perfect body & the more of your own & others is on display the more there is for them to compare to others.

I think girls develop better body image when they dress more modestly. Girls in looser fit trousers or knee length skirts has got to be better than skin tight fabrics & short skirts. It might make the ones with long slender legs feel great but for the average teen with a changing body it's going to end up with body image problems into adulthood.

My kids think I'm mad when I say I remember girls getting told off because their skirts were too long! It was the late 80s/early 90s and hippie type styles were in for the older girls.

And yet they didn’t choose a different school because they agreed with this one’s dress code? Therefore they need to get over it.

Ok, but surely nobody chooses a school because of their dress code!

"They roll their skirts to mid thigh"
I can absolutely guarantee that's a lie.
If unchallenged they will roll it so short that you can see their underwear if they bend down or when they're going upstairs.
I have colleagues who hate moving around the building when the students are for this very reason.

Noone would get away with that short a skirt in a workplace & shouldn't be like that at school. I totally understand why an increasing number of schools are making girls wear trousers.

I'm afraid this sort of thing happens if someone is that way inclined however short your skirt is. I had a picnic with my boyfriend in a London park in the early 00s and a man in a bush was looking at us doing this.

@Gloriia I'd love to know where you live?
I don't go around staring at people's backsides but you literally can't walk in public without seeing the length of other people's skirts.
Where I live there's a mix of private schools, grammar schools and academy schools - doesn't matter which school a girl is at a huge amount of those girls wear skirts so short that you can indeed see their underwear.
The only girls I see wearing a decent length skirt are girls from an all girls Catholic school with a very distinctive uniform. It's the most ugly colour uniform in the world (south londoners might know the one I mean 😁) but those girls look so much better.

If they’re that bothered about it why don’t they just make the uniform trousers. Seems like a waste of time and energy to me.

Your daughter presumably signed up to the school rules when she started the school, as did you. It's a bit pathetic to sign up to something and then not do it.
If this is a hill she wants to die on, her options now are to campaign to get the rules changed, of go to a different school where they have rules she agrees with. Or she could just keep to her side of the bargain. She adheres to the rules and they educate her.

It’s a pretty standard school rule. There’s simply no need to teenage girls to be the one deciding how short their uniform skirt should be.
Hot weather doesn’t really come into play.