Should skirt length matter in secondary schools?

Kilts don't solve the problem...they just look worse and wonky.

Throughout my life, I have seen far more male arse cracks and underpants on display than female ones. Neither are a good look if you want to be taken seriously.

There not, "their".

But this isn't absolutely the case, you state that like it is. I personally don't see this on a scale that is described on here at DD's school, it must be dependent on area, it isn't a universal problem.

The obsession with this issue is distracting from what school is their to deliver - an education. Perhaps if the Intrinsic value of that was focused on as opposed to endless uniform rules, the children involved would find more fulfilling pursuits.

Yes I agree. Where I'm from uniforms aren't q thing and kids can express themselves in normal clothes and don't feel the need to alter how to wear it as they already choose what it is. So a skirt is worn at the length it was made as etc.

Yes, it's funny isn't it, my DS's sixth form college, nearly all girls are wearing clothes that cover them far more than the prescribed uniform.

Yes, but the conversation has expanded to discuss the problem in schools in general, and how difficult it is to have a rule that works/whether there needs to be a rule.

The question in OP 's thread title encourages that discussion.

What sexualisation? Most posters in here want these girls to stop sexualising themselves, especially at school.

The OP has just posted that they aren't showing anything, so mid thigh as they originally stated in their OP.

You don’t need to look hard when they’re simply on display.

In a non uniform school, my dd has gone in this week wearing a mix of maxi skirts, dress to mid thigh, summery cotton skort or PE skort. The uniform skort is by far the shortest thing she’s worn.

A few girls wear micro shorts, but apparently no micro skirts, and the tiny shorts thing is a Y8/9 phase that the older girls look at with amusement.

It’s not hygiene 😂OMFG

It’s about decency, that’s all.

Exactly. I saw a group of girls last week who had rolled their skirts to the extent they didn't appear to be wearing a skirt at all. Absolutely appropriate for the beach, less so for school.

Tube skirts are the issue at your school but the OP describes a kilt like skirt, my DD's school is the same, in fact they got rid of the black skirt to overcome the issue you are describing and as far as I can see it works.

Stick by the rules. It is a standard disagreement for most schools, we rolled up our skirts in the 90's and were often in trouble for doing it.

The sexualisation of school girls on this thread is appalling

Some of the girls I see on the way to and from school are sexualising themselves, frankly.

As I said in an earlier post, it's disingenuous to pretend that girls don't know what they're doing when they roll up their skirts to the point that it's a belt.

There are several things here. I find it highly improbable that she had 5 hours of mocks yesterday. Schools don't do that, because they replicate GCSE situations as far as possible. Complain if that happened.
Secondly, I doubt she got "threatened" with a detention outside school. Was it a general warning?
Thirdly, where I teach, the girls wear those little tube skirts. Micro minis. Yes, you can frequently see their underwear. Boys never, ever have so much flesh on display. If they wear shorts, they're long and baggy. So it is a gender issue. Perennial.

I have had 4 go through secondary (3 girls) I didnt say much about a couple of rolls but if they got into trouble from school about it IMO they took the detention they knew the rules and chose to not go by them.

However i now live near 5 secondary schools and 1 in particular (all girls) the girls roll their skirt so high that in several cases you can see the gusset of their knickers if you are walking a little behind them. I dont like that. I would not have allowed my girls to do so. I dont see the reason to roll that high.

The other 2 schools with girls close by are both church schools and seem to have a different take on uniform as their girls while they roll do not go that high. (Both use kilts where as all girls doesnt so could be that they cant really idk) dd3 and ds attended one of the church schools and often complained about how strict they were on uniform standards.

However, the kids from that school always look smart and well presented I cant say the same about the all girls school. (Or one of the boys schools who allows them to leave in sports gear that then means the boys are trailing their blazer on the ground)

Because they need one standard rule that everyone understands and is hopefully easier to follow. They don’t want girls inadvertently flashing their bums walking up stairs or when wearing their rucksacks.

It’s much easier to say knee length than “Ava, that is too short, it needs to be a few centimetres longer please” when Ava will respond with “But Miss! Sophie’s isn’t any longer than mine and she isn’t in trouble”.

Thank you. I hate that word. It's never used against men.

I was following a couple of probably Year 9 girls on the high street last week. All had rucksacks and one girl’s already exceptionally short skirt was being hitched up further by her rucksack revealing her bum cheeks to the world.

I honestly felt really uncomfortable for her.

I was on the bus a few weeks ago right in the middle of of a load of kids going home from school ,there was one girl with a ridiculously short skirt on she was prancing around like kids do and didn't leave much to the imagination, I'm far from a pearl clutcher
I didn't want to look at her but she was right in front of me on a crowded bus and I couldn't go anywhere
If boys were going round
Leaving nothing to the imagination there would be far of on outcry.

That's not what I meant at all. I meant leaving aside that part of the argument and focusing purely on the girls themselves. I don't for one second think men or boys should be excused from poor behaviour if they are behaving inappropriately but over my decades long teaching career I have witnessed perfectly decent male colleagues placed in difficulty because they had their eyes open while teaching and were accused of "looking".

This. Anything that is not revealing is “frumpy” these days it seems.