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randomusername03 · 2025-06-19T14:44:38+00:00

is it acceptable to be religion phobic? Not religious personally, i lump all moderate religions into a live and let live bucket. but the fundamentalist believers, be it westboro or hamas, i do find myself having a visceral and active dislike/distain for. and its mostly fundementalist islam that im aware due to the modern atrocities they have committed. is it bad to say im fundementalist islamaphobic for example?

Naunet · 19/06/2025 20:30

pointythings · 19/06/2025 20:25

Or using it as an excuse to mutilate baby boys...

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Boys and girls, but yes.

pointythings · 19/06/2025 20:25

Naunet · 19/06/2025 19:32

Some things shouldn't be tolerated though. For example, using religion as an excuse to marry and rape little children.

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Or using it as an excuse to mutilate baby boys...

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 19:59

TY78910 · 19/06/2025 19:56

Yes, agree with you there - hence why I disagree with OP where she’s clearly singling out one religion here and masking it as “a debate”.

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Or she's having her own opinion.

TY78910 · 19/06/2025 19:56

Naunet · 19/06/2025 19:45

I would say it comes under extremism, it doesn't need to be specific to a single religion.

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Yes, agree with you there - hence why I disagree with OP where she’s clearly singling out one religion here and masking it as “a debate”.

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 19:46

Naunet · 19/06/2025 19:45

I would say it comes under extremism, it doesn't need to be specific to a single religion.

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Agree.

Naunet · 19/06/2025 19:45

TY78910 · 19/06/2025 19:43

Is that religion specific or culture? There are predominantly Christian villages in Africa for instance that practice FGM and its customary to marry as a child.

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I would say it comes under extremism, it doesn't need to be specific to a single religion.

TY78910 · 19/06/2025 19:43

Naunet · 19/06/2025 19:32

Some things shouldn't be tolerated though. For example, using religion as an excuse to marry and rape little children.

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Is that religion specific or culture? There are predominantly Christian villages in Africa for instance that practice FGM and its customary to marry as a child.

Naunet · 19/06/2025 19:32

mathanxiety · 19/06/2025 19:07

It's only a difference of degree.

It all stems from the same source.

Intolerance is intolerance is intolerance.

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Some things shouldn't be tolerated though. For example, using religion as an excuse to marry and rape little children.

mathanxiety · 19/06/2025 19:07

randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 15:53

well im not looking to or actively murdering/raping/oppressing non believers (of what i believe), i guess that might be a big difference 🤷🏻‍♀️

It's only a difference of degree.

It all stems from the same source.

Intolerance is intolerance is intolerance.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/06/2025 18:43

religion - all of them - are endlessly fascinating and a reflection of how we've tried to grapple with what it means to be human in the world.
That doesn't make them true. Or even right ....

That's so beautiful put, @SerendipityJane, and I agree about no religion necessarily being "right", but I still believe that, as a code for life, Islam in its purest form is as good a guide as any

I'm not even an adherent myself, of this or any other mainstream religion, but I hope I recognise the better qualities of most where they remain uncorrupted

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/06/2025 18:32

as for infantilising extremists, really. the poor little lambs didn't really know what they were doing?

Nobody's trying to, OP, and certainly many will know exactly what they're doing, but they rely to a great extent on useful idiots who'll automatically go along with their self-serving claims of racism, ignoring that what they're actually doing us to drag a beautiful code into the dust

And yes I've read it, @blackbirdevensong - or rather I should say I've had it read to me, since sadly I'm too stupid to cope with the original arabic

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 18:26

It can be well worth finding a reputable scholar for guidance with this,not least because it can be very enlightening

religion - all of them - are endlessly fascinating and a reflection of how we've tried to grapple with what it means to be human in the world.

That doesn't make them true. Or even right ....

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 18:14

randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 18:08

you asked how my hate of extremists manifests. I questioned if it had to, wasn't feeling hatred enough. you then accused me of wanting to jail people for their feelings. how exactly did you get to that last blatantly nonsense assumption?

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You're not going to get much sense, when you've got women falling over themselves to defend Iran, which is actually just getting at Israel. An oppressive regime, which sees its own women executed is not one that I respect either.

blackbirdevensong · 19/06/2025 18:13

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/06/2025 17:58

Neither are those who actually follow the teachings of the Holy Quran, OP, though those who like to pretend they do - often after being influenced by those who corrupt it - sometimes seek protection by claiming adherence to a religion they don't understand at all

It can be well worth finding a reputable scholar for guidance with this,not least because it can be very enlightening

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Have you read the Qur'an?

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randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 18:08

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 17:56

I am on about what I am on about.

Unless you express your feelings how does anyone know what they are ?

What happens if you keep them to yourself ? Asking for a friend.

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you asked how my hate of extremists manifests. I questioned if it had to, wasn't feeling hatred enough. you then accused me of wanting to jail people for their feelings. how exactly did you get to that last blatantly nonsense assumption?

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randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 18:04

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/06/2025 17:58

Neither are those who actually follow the teachings of the Holy Quran, OP, though those who like to pretend they do - often after being influenced by those who corrupt it - sometimes seek protection by claiming adherence to a religion they don't understand at all

It can be well worth finding a reputable scholar for guidance with this,not least because it can be very enlightening

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you cant dictate what someone's religion is and tell them they are doing it wrong 😆 dont have to like it, can maybe even it hate it if its evil enough, but religion is a belief system, belief thats its right is all thats needed. as for infantilising extremists, really. the poor little lambs didn't really know what they were doing?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/06/2025 17:58

randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 15:53

well im not looking to or actively murdering/raping/oppressing non believers (of what i believe), i guess that might be a big difference 🤷🏻‍♀️

Neither are those who actually follow the teachings of the Holy Quran, OP, though those who like to pretend they do - often after being influenced by those who corrupt it - sometimes seek protection by claiming adherence to a religion they don't understand at all

It can be well worth finding a reputable scholar for guidance with this,not least because it can be very enlightening

Taytayslayslay · 19/06/2025 17:57

I disagree with Zionism, and saying that gets you accused of being Anti semetic. So, based on that logic being anti islam extremist does make you some kind of phobic, even though I don't actually believe that to be true.

I think it's okay to criticise the extremists in any religion as long as you understand it's only a percentage who do these atrocities and don't hate the innocent ones.

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 17:56

randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 17:44

what are you on about? you asked about how my hatred of extremists manifests? I think most people know know how extremists hatred manifests.

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I am on about what I am on about.

Unless you express your feelings how does anyone know what they are ?

What happens if you keep them to yourself ? Asking for a friend.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 19/06/2025 17:50

I mean I hate Catholicism after growing up in a very catholic Ireland - horrible religion full of disgusting treatment of woman by the Magdalene laundries , pervert and paedo priests, horrible abuse

i also have a problem with pretty much all religions and organisations like this ! I don’t get why you can’t just say that

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randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 17:47

Isittimeformynapyet · 19/06/2025 17:38

islam, and I mean the fundamentalist kind, are the only ones I've ever had the misfortunate to be in close proximity to

Exactly how many religions IS Islam @randomusername03?

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i dont know how many strands there are, does anyone? but its definitely split into moderate islam and fundementalist islam.

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blackbirdevensong · 19/06/2025 17:46

It's rare for anyone to shout out loudly against Islam because of the fear of what happens next.

Despite all the child rape gangs, bombs, terrorist acts, mass migration, them telling us directly that they're going to take over, despite ALL of that, the majority of people in this country think that Islam is okay.

I honestly lie awake at night worrying about what is happening here.

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randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 17:44

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 17:37

So you would lock people up for their feelings ?

Wow.

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what are you on about? you asked about how my hatred of extremists manifests? I think most people know know how extremists hatred manifests.

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Isittimeformynapyet · 19/06/2025 17:38

islam, and I mean the fundamentalist kind, are the only ones I've ever had the misfortunate to be in close proximity to

Exactly how many religions IS Islam @randomusername03?

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 17:37

randomusername03 · 19/06/2025 17:26

does hate have to manifest itself? isn't the feeling enough?

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So you would lock people up for their feelings ?

Wow.