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Why are all government workers the same? (Bar the odd minority)

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Cel119 · 19/06/2025 13:59

By government workers i mean council, NHS, police, Ambulance.
Last night we had to go to A&E as relative was suffering from stroke symptoms. He didnt want to go alone so i accompanied. As he was being triaged the HCA asked for the blue folder and i handed it and she looked at me like i handed her a shit and said "ooooooo.... kkkkkk". I am type 1 diabetic and as relative was being assessed I started suffering a very bad hypo. I thought i was going to collapse. I think it was the combination of heat and insulin working too quickly. I said "im really sorry, im having a hypo and I need to sit" the HCA said "how do you know?" Considering I have had diabetes more than half my life I knew the symptoms and my sensor had alarmed me. But for some reason this hypo was making me feel really bad. She replied "if you want to be seen you will have to sign in" no compassion, empathy. Just stone cold nasty. I replied "I don't want to be seen i just need to sit" she did the same "oooo... kkkk" the room starting going really bright and I thought I need to get out. So I stumbled out holding the walls. I sat in a chair. The HCA asked a nurse to do my blood glucose(i think because she didnt believe me). The nurse came along grabbed my hand, didnt clean my hand, did blood glucose (from the wrong finger) and shoved my hand back at me then read out the glucose which were low. Then stomped off. I dont even know if she used a clean needle! I just sat and ate my jelly babies thinking please dont collapse as i didnt fancy that infront of a room full of strangers. It just seemed very harsh and cold to treat someone this way. I saw police treating another mental health patient the same. In my past I have had abhorrent behaviour from ambulance crew. Council workers are rude and dismissive of any issues anyone has. It's like the country has reached a massive disparity in power with the average working man being treated like a turd that would be better off dead. Why is everyone in these jobs like this? They don't think reasonably. You could explain a situation that seems completely reasonable and they will find a reason that it's not reasonable. I have had experiences like this time and again.
I have also worked as an qualified NHS worker(dietitian) and worked amongst them and they are some of the most cruel, uncaring and bullying type to work with. Towards patients and colleagues. It's a toxic environment. Full of bullies. Why? What fuels this? In a career where you are meant to care, you get people devoid of any humanity treating people in need. As I said, you get the odd person who clearly went into it because they want to help people, but not often.

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TiswasPhantomFlanFlinger · 19/06/2025 17:32

Ablondiebutagoody · 19/06/2025 14:22

No smoke without fire. It's because they very rarely get sacked so can be as useless and nasty as they like. Productivity in the public sector is also shocking. As is the amount of tax we are paying for such shitty services.

You’re wrong. I know of a number people being bullied out of the NHS just because their face doesn’t fit or they need accommodations for their neurodiversity or disability and they aren’t being supported, just put on performance management. They can, and do dismiss staff, just not necessarily the ones they should sack.
Also it like many employers who promote people who can perform on the task part of their role but have no skills in people management.

Azandme · 19/06/2025 17:23

Jabberwok · 19/06/2025 17:21

Mate I've have had 3 years of shit from the hmrc, you can't talk to them on the phone if they say you are fined . So you write 9 times...not one response. your accountant with 30+ years experience can't get it sorted

So you involve your mp who gets a reply accusing your accountant of incorrectly submitting data.. No mention that one minute they are fining you for 20/21, then they are not. And the letter is so full of jargon, complex bollocks that you have to explain to your mp that you aren't stupid and held down a job with responsibility of spending £100m each year but you don't really understand what they are saying

That's the system, not the staff. Important distinction.

Azandme · 19/06/2025 17:22

Totally untrue. I'm a delight.

Jabberwok · 19/06/2025 17:21

Mate I've have had 3 years of shit from the hmrc, you can't talk to them on the phone if they say you are fined . So you write 9 times...not one response. your accountant with 30+ years experience can't get it sorted

So you involve your mp who gets a reply accusing your accountant of incorrectly submitting data.. No mention that one minute they are fining you for 20/21, then they are not. And the letter is so full of jargon, complex bollocks that you have to explain to your mp that you aren't stupid and held down a job with responsibility of spending £100m each year but you don't really understand what they are saying

Yasty · 19/06/2025 17:21

Every dietician I’ve ever known has been an absolute pain in the backside. Lazy, not very bright, and they all had very bad breath.

Just while we’re generalising, like.

celandiney · 19/06/2025 17:21

I'm sorry that you had an experience you are unhappy about,leaving that impression.
Maybe the people you saw were awful, but you can't extend that to every public sector employee.I've had a lot of experience of the NHS,and the vast majority of nurses and doctors have been caring and user friendly. The exception is the HCA I came across when I was having a late miscarriage - I still remember her,when I came across her again I avoided her - but she was the exception.
Against her I'd put the A and E Dr who talked through all my daughter's issues - she could just have given the results covering the specific thing that had brought us to A&E and sent us away but she realised there was a bigger picture and took the time to give as much help,support and information as she could.She was amazing.
Not everyone in public service will be caring,efficient etc etc but that doesn't mean they are all bad either.

helpfulperson · 19/06/2025 17:21

Hercisback1 · 19/06/2025 14:22

Becauae they encounter so many fakes and drama llamas, they forget sometimes people are really struggling.

This. You join full of compassion and enthusiasm but dealing with the public day in and day out soon knocks that out of you.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/06/2025 17:20

Auroraloves · 19/06/2025 17:16

What about finger prick tests?

Not sure because I’m not diabetic but I was advised by my breast nurse to always offer the other arm as a precaution.

Uricon2 · 19/06/2025 17:20

I am too conscious of confidentiality to share the very numerous instances of verbal abuse directed at me and colleagues during a 30+ year local government career. Not just verbal abuse, actually.

Does this make me think that people who are not government workers "bar the odd minority" are all like that? No.

CreationNat1on · 19/06/2025 17:20

They are desensitised and experience empathy deficits over time

neverbeenskiing · 19/06/2025 17:18

I've recently had surgery and the Nurses and HCA's who cared for me were incredibly kind and efficient.

So according to your logic, I guess every single person who works for the NHS must be incredibly kind and efficient and you've just imagined your poor experience, OP.

Auroraloves · 19/06/2025 17:16

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/06/2025 17:15

If you have a lymph node removed from an armpit, as I did prior to mastectomy, for example, any medical procedures, blood pressure readings, blood samples etc. should be taken from the opposite arm. Even years in the future such a simple procedure can cause oedema.
Just an example.

What about finger prick tests?

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/06/2025 17:15

vodkaredbullgirl · 19/06/2025 15:33

Same here

If you have a lymph node removed from an armpit, as I did prior to mastectomy, for example, any medical procedures, blood pressure readings, blood samples etc. should be taken from the opposite arm. Even years in the future such a simple procedure can cause oedema.
Just an example.

SardinesOnGingerbread · 19/06/2025 17:14

I've worked since 6.40am without a break until now. I ate some soup during a meeting at 2pm. I work a minimum of 7 unpaid hours per week and have worked far more in the past. I put my own money into additional training. I worked through the pandemic, including at the start when I thought I might die. And I read this and it makes me want to cry. I have put so much into the NHS.

Auroraloves · 19/06/2025 17:08

Sounds like a bad experience but lots of generalisations. Hope you and your relative are on the mend

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 19/06/2025 17:06

I've seen it a lot with social workers. They start off trying to move heaven and earth and you watch them slowly deflate and become beaten down and yes some become jaded and cold and the one day you get a call from the new social worker introducing themselves.

Human beings can only take so much.
Is it good? Of course not! But the solution is to have enough people doing the job and better support for those who break. That would be in everyone's best interests

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 19/06/2025 17:02

Compassion fatigue i think.

Toottooot · 19/06/2025 16:59

Doseofreality · 19/06/2025 15:58

Have you ever considered if may be a you issue?

As Taylor sings ‘it’s me, hi, I’m the problem it’s me.’

Toottooot · 19/06/2025 16:58

ToClimb · 19/06/2025 15:30

Personally I'm interested in how you can take a BM "from the wrong finger" as one of these workers you are referring to, I'm fully trained to know there is no such thing as a wrong finger!!

Don’t forget doing so with a dirty needle 🙄🙄

CarpetKnees · 19/06/2025 16:54

Locutus2000 · 19/06/2025 14:19

I understand you are upset but to generalise dissatisfaction with certain individuals to encompass all public servants is grossly offensive and you know it.

This.

Messycoo · 19/06/2025 16:15

YANBU I have worked within the NHS I was appalled at the lack of care and bad attitudes of staff and the bulling is off the scale ! I would be thrilled if I worked with another HCA who actually cared and took time with patients . I found most of the nursing staff did minimum hands on, but would find them laughing and joking, eating and drinking tea and mainly hiding in the back office . Yes they have the admin to do, make it last a whole 12 hour shift ! I managed 4 years and I loved working with Patients but had to leave through MH and physical burn out ! I did meet some really good caring health care workers, but they are the minority!
Realised like PP’s these people do the bare minimum for good pay, benefits and pension. Even if you call out bad practice, nothing is done as the ward manager and Matrons don’t want the hassle of the paperwork and to be seen as unproductive. So hence the vicious cycle .

Doseofreality · 19/06/2025 15:58

Have you ever considered if may be a you issue?

NeedForSpeed · 19/06/2025 15:55

Cheshire71 · 19/06/2025 15:19

All public sector workers work for the goverment, whether that be central goverment departments, local authority councils, police, fire or NHS.

No, they don't. None of the staff are employed by the government. Every police force is a separate employer but falls J set the bracket of the Home Office. Same for every NHS Trust, fire brigade and especially councils - none of their staff are civil service members.

Seeline · 19/06/2025 15:51

None of those people are government employees.
They are public sector workers.
Who deals with the public day in, day out. Getting sworn at, and attacked.
When I worked in local government we had no perks. When we did have time for a tea break, we had to provide our own tea, milk and cup. We even bought the kettle. Public Council tax money couldn't be spent on things like that.

Personally I have never come across a medical employee who has been rude or dismissive. But then I have always treated them politely and with respect....

Didimum · 19/06/2025 15:49

You are being massively unreasonable to accuse a nurse of using a dirty needle because her method and manner weren't to your liking. Where does an accusation like that even come from?