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Daughter not wanting to stay at her dads

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2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 18/06/2025 15:10

I have 3 children with additional needs. I split up from their dad 4 years ago but we get on great as co parents now. They go to his every other weekend and every Wednesday night.
4 weeks ago my eldest was diagnosed with heart disease and last night my son was diagnosed with a benign tumour on his brain which may be causing seizures. My youngest also has brain damage and epilepsy.
Life is so stressful and upsetting at the moment. I had a mental breakdown at the start of this year too.
My eldest is 15 and often doesn’t want to go to her dad’s. Most times I’ve managed to convince her but today she is point blank refusing.
I feel really horrible saying this but I feel I need tonight off as my mental health is struggling so much with these latest diagnosis with my elder two. I feel like I’m just drifting along on a bed of worry and fear.
Am I selfish for wanting her to go? Should I push it or leave her stay home?

OP posts:
MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 09:18

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:12

I don’t know why you are so keen to go through my old posts.
When I left her dad 4 years ago she hated him to the extent she didn’t want him as her dad. Despite the emotional abuse and control towards me he has always been a good dad and I kept my opinions to myself and actively encouraged eldest dd to keep her relationship with her dad strong. She’s never been massively keen going over and I’ve often given her time away from staying over. She had a short period last year where she thought she’d prefer to spend more time at his. But it lasted a month before she realised this is her home and where she is happiest.
During term time sc only stays here every other weekend and dh catches public transport to go and see him one evening a week for a few hours after school.
The reason I said sc isn’t relevant in this as they are not here on a Wednesday anyway. This was about her just wanting to chill at home in her own room. I was curious what others did at this age.

People are keen to go through your old posts because they paint a picture. It’s not a criticism or judgement but having 3 high needs children and then moving in a difficult step child and new step parent within 4 years of leaving their dad is a lot. High needs children like you’ve described need extra stability and it seems like your DD has had constant chaos.

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:12

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 08:47

The step child definitely is relevant
This DD actively preferred being at her dad’s until recently as a result of how chaotic home life was.
On the thread I was on, she was 50/50 with her dad until fairly recently op?

I don’t know why you are so keen to go through my old posts.
When I left her dad 4 years ago she hated him to the extent she didn’t want him as her dad. Despite the emotional abuse and control towards me he has always been a good dad and I kept my opinions to myself and actively encouraged eldest dd to keep her relationship with her dad strong. She’s never been massively keen going over and I’ve often given her time away from staying over. She had a short period last year where she thought she’d prefer to spend more time at his. But it lasted a month before she realised this is her home and where she is happiest.
During term time sc only stays here every other weekend and dh catches public transport to go and see him one evening a week for a few hours after school.
The reason I said sc isn’t relevant in this as they are not here on a Wednesday anyway. This was about her just wanting to chill at home in her own room. I was curious what others did at this age.

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2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:08

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/06/2025 08:26

Do they do full weekends ie Friday to Monday with dad? If not then perhaps they can change to this instead of staying Wednesday nights as the upheaval on a school night is quite a lot for a adhd gcse student

They’ve been doing every other weekend Friday and home Sunday. I think dropping the Wednesday may be needed for her so she doesn’t have that upheaval during the week. She’s just started a special needs unit after being out of school for 10 months so I think this is adding to it.

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Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 08:47

UndermyShoeJoe · 19/06/2025 08:25

I think the step child is relevant if they are adding to the list of problems. The older child might be wanting to stick with you more due to that child behaviour child brains don’t always go to the thoughts we do which would be escaping to dads but maybe protecting mum or showing siding with him against the issue.

Though for you it’s just giving you zero down time. She doesn’t see it as adding to your load.

The step child definitely is relevant
This DD actively preferred being at her dad’s until recently as a result of how chaotic home life was.
On the thread I was on, she was 50/50 with her dad until fairly recently op?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/06/2025 08:29

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/06/2025 16:37

At 15 she really doesn’t have to go anywhere she doesn’t want to.

I think you’re quite a way past the age where you can.

It sucks but a 15 yo in the house is not like a little one - you ought to be able to relax at least after the two of you have had dinner? I know you’ve said she has ND but can she accept when you say “I’m not going to be much company tonight, I need to just have a rest”?

My DD is 16 and has been with me and not at all with her Dad (we are divorced) throughout the whole GCSE revision and exam period. And yes I absolutely crave some totally alone time after such a long period - some time other than when I’m working and no one is in the house. But I guess people in partnerships don’t get that and a 15/16 shouldn’t cause more work to a single parent than they do to two parents, if that makes sense!

I did what I was told by parents at that age even if I didn't want to

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 19/06/2025 08:26

Do they do full weekends ie Friday to Monday with dad? If not then perhaps they can change to this instead of staying Wednesday nights as the upheaval on a school night is quite a lot for a adhd gcse student

UndermyShoeJoe · 19/06/2025 08:25

I think the step child is relevant if they are adding to the list of problems. The older child might be wanting to stick with you more due to that child behaviour child brains don’t always go to the thoughts we do which would be escaping to dads but maybe protecting mum or showing siding with him against the issue.

Though for you it’s just giving you zero down time. She doesn’t see it as adding to your load.

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 08:23

It sounds like a very stressful and unhappy family environment.

I am guessing not much school?

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 08:19

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 05:50

its your DH’s son, your sc, that is causing the biggest stress OP (I was on your other thread). Is he addressing that situation ?

Edited

Unfortunately things with sc are no better. They still choose to ignore me and act weird if I’m in the room so I tend to go out at the weekends on my own with my kids so I can avoid the awkwardness. But this post isn’t about that.
Its about the struggles of being the main carer for 3 additional needs kids one of who doesn’t want to leave my side now which as much as I want to help her I also need to look after my health. It’s such a difficult balance to get right.

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Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 05:50

its your DH’s son, your sc, that is causing the biggest stress OP (I was on your other thread). Is he addressing that situation ?

IReallyLoveItHere · 18/06/2025 21:18

Whilst I agree with PP that you can't force her to go I also feel you're not being listened to here - your mental health is rock bottom and she needs a lot of your energy and attention when at home.

Ultimately this could mean she has to go and live with dad when you simply cannot function any more.

You need a solution to this - what does her dad suggest? How is he supporting here? He may not be comfortable in your house but that's the obvious solution.

I have a teen with similar needs, many interruptions during the night, never more than 20 mins without needing a talk during waking hours and noisy and active when entertaining himself. I'm fortunate that whilst he needs me emotionally dh can do pretty much everything ejse when I need time out.

Hopefully her not wanting to go is a temporary thing. I hope you find a solution.

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 18/06/2025 21:01

Moonnstars · 18/06/2025 20:57

As others have said at 15 she is old enough to make her own decisions. Is it that she just wants to be in your home as that is her safe space or is it not being interested in seeing her dad? If it's just that she wants to stay at home, could you book a hotel for the night and have her dad stay over so he can look after her while you get a break?

I don't know how people find out info about posters on other threads, but if you do have a partner do they live with you and can you trust them with your children to get a break?

I can trust my husband with the children but there are things he can’t help them with as he’s not their dad (think personal hygiene).
I could book a hotel but my ex wouldn’t feel comfortable staying here.

OP posts:
2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 18/06/2025 20:59

Blinkagain · 18/06/2025 20:49

How supportive is your second husband?

He is amazing but there are things he can’t help with.

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Moonnstars · 18/06/2025 20:57

As others have said at 15 she is old enough to make her own decisions. Is it that she just wants to be in your home as that is her safe space or is it not being interested in seeing her dad? If it's just that she wants to stay at home, could you book a hotel for the night and have her dad stay over so he can look after her while you get a break?

I don't know how people find out info about posters on other threads, but if you do have a partner do they live with you and can you trust them with your children to get a break?

Blinkagain · 18/06/2025 20:49

How supportive is your second husband?

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 18/06/2025 20:12

Blinkagain · 18/06/2025 16:12

No one is dismissive the OP

what we are “dismissive” about is the idea a 15 year old can be forced out of her home to visit her dad’s. I asked Op how she saw that panning out in practise but no answer

I didn’t reply to that part ad I’m obviously not going to force her out of the house.
She had stayed home as I know it’s her safe space to be and I’m not going to take that away from her.
I just wish disability teams realised the amount of pressure and stress parents of special needs children are under.
I’m scared that if I have a break down I won’t be able to care for the three of them.

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Panicatthegarden · 18/06/2025 16:55

That sounds really tough!

You're definitely not unreasonable to want the break but I think you might be unreasonable to make her go. Could you explain to her that you need a bit of a break and take yourself off for a bath or relax in your own room and then come together for a takeaway and watch some TV together, maybe something you couldn't watch with the younger ones around

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/06/2025 16:37

At 15 she really doesn’t have to go anywhere she doesn’t want to.

I think you’re quite a way past the age where you can.

It sucks but a 15 yo in the house is not like a little one - you ought to be able to relax at least after the two of you have had dinner? I know you’ve said she has ND but can she accept when you say “I’m not going to be much company tonight, I need to just have a rest”?

My DD is 16 and has been with me and not at all with her Dad (we are divorced) throughout the whole GCSE revision and exam period. And yes I absolutely crave some totally alone time after such a long period - some time other than when I’m working and no one is in the house. But I guess people in partnerships don’t get that and a 15/16 shouldn’t cause more work to a single parent than they do to two parents, if that makes sense!

cadburyegg · 18/06/2025 16:22

I’m a SP too so understand the need for the break. However I think you have done well for your eldest to get to 15 and still be willing to stay over at her dads sometimes. My eldest is 10 and I’m expecting him not to want to do overnights in the next 3 years or so. Sorry I know it’s not what you want to hear.

Blinkagain · 18/06/2025 16:12

NImumconfused · 18/06/2025 15:59

Some of these replies are a bit dismissive of the pressure the OP is under, especially as a single parent. I have a DD with similar difficulties and unless you've lived it, it's difficult to understand the sheer relentless level of demand that parenting kids with complex mental health issues creates. Even more so if there's more than one child with problems. In the support groups I belong to you regularly see parents driven to the brink, because there is so little help or support.

It's obviously a really difficult time for your family OP, much sympathy. You can't really make her go but I would continue to gently encourage, and if it's not working, talk to her and your ex about other options (like going out for the evening perhaps) that would allow you even a little bit of me time.

No one is dismissive the OP

what we are “dismissive” about is the idea a 15 year old can be forced out of her home to visit her dad’s. I asked Op how she saw that panning out in practise but no answer

NImumconfused · 18/06/2025 15:59

Some of these replies are a bit dismissive of the pressure the OP is under, especially as a single parent. I have a DD with similar difficulties and unless you've lived it, it's difficult to understand the sheer relentless level of demand that parenting kids with complex mental health issues creates. Even more so if there's more than one child with problems. In the support groups I belong to you regularly see parents driven to the brink, because there is so little help or support.

It's obviously a really difficult time for your family OP, much sympathy. You can't really make her go but I would continue to gently encourage, and if it's not working, talk to her and your ex about other options (like going out for the evening perhaps) that would allow you even a little bit of me time.

UndermyShoeJoe · 18/06/2025 15:53

Not selfish to want a night off just like any parent.

But you can’t force a 15 year old to go to visitation if they don’t want. All you can do is be an ear and if there is any reason she brings up discuss with ex.

Do you have any services involved where other types of restbite care may happen? Or other family who she enjoys who would be willing to have her one night every so often even if once every few months.

Also what about your DH giving you a break while you even go to a bnb or a mates one night every so often.

QuickPeachPoet · 18/06/2025 15:47

Am I selfish for wanting her to go?

Of course you aren't. What an absolute shit show - you have literally been dealt a really dud hand in the card game of parenthood!
Sadly though, as the other PP have said, you probably can't force it. But I am in no doubt that you want and need a break from this crap.

ThatGladTiger · 18/06/2025 15:45

its natural that she will get to an age where she doesn’t want to go. We have had this and my stepdaughter would rather stay in her home town with her friends etc. Key is to make sure she still sees her dad. If she is not going to go there overnight then arrange an evening once a week/fortnight where your ex pics her up and they hang out. Really important to keep that link.

I appreciate you have many other issues going on :(

MissDoubleU · 18/06/2025 15:37

It sounds like life is very hard for your DD also. With complex needs, MH issues, a struggling mum and siblings with their own additional needs. I would want to stay home too.

Let her.

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