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Daughter not wanting to stay at her dads

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2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 18/06/2025 15:10

I have 3 children with additional needs. I split up from their dad 4 years ago but we get on great as co parents now. They go to his every other weekend and every Wednesday night.
4 weeks ago my eldest was diagnosed with heart disease and last night my son was diagnosed with a benign tumour on his brain which may be causing seizures. My youngest also has brain damage and epilepsy.
Life is so stressful and upsetting at the moment. I had a mental breakdown at the start of this year too.
My eldest is 15 and often doesn’t want to go to her dad’s. Most times I’ve managed to convince her but today she is point blank refusing.
I feel really horrible saying this but I feel I need tonight off as my mental health is struggling so much with these latest diagnosis with my elder two. I feel like I’m just drifting along on a bed of worry and fear.
Am I selfish for wanting her to go? Should I push it or leave her stay home?

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WasThatACorner · 04/08/2025 11:03

OP have you checked out any voluntary respite support you could be getting. In my area there are some teen support / befriending charities that often get a lot of people on a health care track volunteering to gain experience and bulk up CV. Or a more generic family support charity?

You may be able to set something up like a cinema or bowling trip once a week when the other kids are at dad's to give you a few hours.

Take care of yourself, life sounds pretty intense right now.

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 04/08/2025 08:10

C36M · 04/08/2025 00:33

Can you get a needs assessment carried out by social services to see if there is any respite care available for you? Even if it’s for day trips or a support worker visiting? You can’t pour from an empty cup

I have tried multiple times and each time they close us down and say we are doing well when I feel like I’m breaking

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C36M · 04/08/2025 00:33

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 18/06/2025 15:20

No nappies lol but she does need more care than your average 15 year old. Due to her additional needs she’s often awake in the nighttime needing support as she has awful hallucinations and paranoia. She also needs close monitoring with her eating due to her mental health issues. I get that this is her home and it’s where she feels safest but without a break I fear I’ll have another breakdown and be useless for anyone 😢😢

Can you get a needs assessment carried out by social services to see if there is any respite care available for you? Even if it’s for day trips or a support worker visiting? You can’t pour from an empty cup

Twitchitch · 20/06/2025 16:13

Whosenameisthis · 19/06/2025 15:22

i did read it right then.

yes it’s been a shock, but it’s not about you at this point. It’s her diagnosis and her facing a lifetime of dealing with it.

you’re her mum. She’ll want safety and security which means home.

you’re going to have to put your own feelings aside and step up for your daughter. Don’t make her a problem that you deal with by sending her away.

Agreed

one would almost be forgiven for thinking it is the OP with the heart disease diagnosis. Added to which, all 4 of the children in the mangled / blended family seem to have had one hell of a rocky time of it

Whosenameisthis · 19/06/2025 15:22

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 15:17

Yes. She’s been having episodes of fainting, breathlessness, palpitations and chest pain. An echocardiogram has show that she has congenital heart valve disease. It’s all been quite a shock.

i did read it right then.

yes it’s been a shock, but it’s not about you at this point. It’s her diagnosis and her facing a lifetime of dealing with it.

you’re her mum. She’ll want safety and security which means home.

you’re going to have to put your own feelings aside and step up for your daughter. Don’t make her a problem that you deal with by sending her away.

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 15:20

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 15:17

Yes. She’s been having episodes of fainting, breathlessness, palpitations and chest pain. An echocardiogram has show that she has congenital heart valve disease. It’s all been quite a shock.

Yes I bet and very very recent and she is the one physically suffering.
so good grief let the girl stay at home if she doesn’t want to go to her dad’s in future without even considering forcing the issue

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 15:17

Whosenameisthis · 19/06/2025 15:13

She’s 15 and just been diagnosed with heart disease?

as much as you may need some time off I think she probably needs the support more.

Yes. She’s been having episodes of fainting, breathlessness, palpitations and chest pain. An echocardiogram has show that she has congenital heart valve disease. It’s all been quite a shock.

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Whosenameisthis · 19/06/2025 15:13

She’s 15 and just been diagnosed with heart disease?

as much as you may need some time off I think she probably needs the support more.

MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 15:12

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 15:11

It’s what works for us as their dad works full time and lives 40 minutes away.
it feels like your just here to judge.

It’s not judging, it’s pointing out that you’re not giving accurate descriptions. No one in the world would ever describe EOW + one day (sometimes?) as a 50/50 split. You’re not doing yourself any favours by even suggesting it.

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 15:12

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 15:11

It’s what works for us as their dad works full time and lives 40 minutes away.
it feels like your just here to judge.

Oh for goodness sakes!

Pointing out the 1 night a week plus EOW is not 50/50, Which is precisely what you said on your other thread, is not judging

although yes…. I think the mess you and these children are in are because you and your partner rushed moving in and marrying and breakneck speed

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 15:11

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 14:01

This is not remotely 50/50 1 night a week plus EOW!

Edited

It’s what works for us as their dad works full time and lives 40 minutes away.
it feels like your just here to judge.

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MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 14:13

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 14:08

And quite honestly no wonder the OP’s mental health is in the gutter. It all sounds utterly bleak

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OP can’t have had long herself to heal from the first relationship. Given it was admittedly tumultuous (at best?) I think OP hasn’t done her own MH any favours and I’m not surprised she herself is also verging on/has suffered breakdowns. These things take time and it doesn’t seem OP has allowed that of herself either. She likely needs her own stability.

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 14:08

MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 14:05

100% what I’m saying too. Not even a year after the split with their father OP had a new “partner” (boyfriend.) and was moving them in and trying to blend families. Married quick after that and wondering why all the kids are flying off the rails and struggling to cope with life. They’ve not had any amount of stability

And quite honestly no wonder the OP’s mental health is in the gutter. It all sounds utterly bleak

ThatCalmCat · 19/06/2025 14:07

Is it possible to explain to your daughter that people need time to themselves, and not be responsible for others so that they have time to recharge their batteries? I'd imagine with her ASD she may have some understanding of this.
Unfortunately since you and her Dad aren't together you don't get to share the parenting like a couple would, and this is the way you do it.
Not only that, but her Dad loves her and may be feeling disappointed that he doesn't get to see her.
I have a similar family set up (without the health issues though, my sympathies) and have had this conversation with both of my children on occasion.
You're not being unreasonable by having this chat with her. It's a life lesson too, understanding when someone needs a little space, and knowing it's not because of her, but because you need it for yourself.

MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 14:05

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 14:00

Oh and on the other thread I was on earlier this year you said you’d been together 3 years

either way breakneck speed to meet, move and marry a man, who has a troubled child of his own (and he doesn’t work or drive!) and so all I’m saying is… this all sounds very chaotic but not just for you OP and so if your children don’t want to gather their bits and traipse off to dad again…. You let them stay

100% what I’m saying too. Not even a year after the split with their father OP had a new “partner” (boyfriend.) and was moving them in and trying to blend families. Married quick after that and wondering why all the kids are flying off the rails and struggling to cope with life. They’ve not had any amount of stability

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 14:01

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 13:59

It’s not quite 50/50. It’s every other weekend and one night in the week. Sometimes more over holidays, it depends if dad is working.

This is not remotely 50/50 1 night a week plus EOW!

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 14:00

Oh and on the other thread I was on earlier this year you said you’d been together 3 years

either way breakneck speed to meet, move and marry a man, who has a troubled child of his own (and he doesn’t work or drive!) and so all I’m saying is… this all sounds very chaotic but not just for you OP and so if your children don’t want to gather their bits and traipse off to dad again…. You let them stay

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 13:59

Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 13:58

Ok but you said on the other thread that it was “back to normal 50/50” 🤷

It’s not quite 50/50. It’s every other weekend and one night in the week. Sometimes more over holidays, it depends if dad is working.

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Blinkagain · 19/06/2025 13:58

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:12

I don’t know why you are so keen to go through my old posts.
When I left her dad 4 years ago she hated him to the extent she didn’t want him as her dad. Despite the emotional abuse and control towards me he has always been a good dad and I kept my opinions to myself and actively encouraged eldest dd to keep her relationship with her dad strong. She’s never been massively keen going over and I’ve often given her time away from staying over. She had a short period last year where she thought she’d prefer to spend more time at his. But it lasted a month before she realised this is her home and where she is happiest.
During term time sc only stays here every other weekend and dh catches public transport to go and see him one evening a week for a few hours after school.
The reason I said sc isn’t relevant in this as they are not here on a Wednesday anyway. This was about her just wanting to chill at home in her own room. I was curious what others did at this age.

Ok but you said on the other thread that it was “back to normal 50/50” 🤷

MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 12:52

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:24

Yes but it’s easy for people to misjudge.
My younger two absolutely adore my dh and they have an amazing bond. My eldest also adored dh at the start and my sc adored me. Things have changed as the children have gotten older and nobody could have predicted that. Life throws obstacles at us that blended or biological family; either way would be hard. I often get complimented on how lovely, happy and polite my children are but people on here are quick to read struggles and judge that my children are suffering or that I’m not doing enough.

I’m not meaning to judge and of course life happens but 4 years is a very short space of time from their father leaving to having a new step dad and step sibling. To talk about it being “blended” is unrealistic in this time frame particularly when you say they had strong negative feelings and lots to work through re their own DF. They’re clearly still adjusting to all of it and it seems like the whirlwind of change hasn’t stopped. Your SS being problematic adds to their constant turmoil and uncertainty. Your home went from being your DD’s only safe space (while hating her DF) to being somewhere she couldn’t feel safe at all. She had to escape your home and spend time with the father she has mixed feelings for all because yet another volatile male was pushed into her living situation.

The children seeming happy about it in the honeymoon isn’t a green light to get married and force everyone to live together before it’s stood any test of time.

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:26

sashh · 19/06/2025 09:23

That does sound hard @2025letsmakeitthebest1 sorry I can't help. Does she have a friend she could stay over with occasionally, or would you just worry then?

Friendships are something she’s always struggled to maintain sadly. Her latest ‘best friend’ she’s only known for 4 weeks and I’ve not met her family yet.
She does stay with my mum maybe 2 or 3 times a year.
I totally get why she wants to be here. All of her things are here. She has pets in her room which help her massively and things are exactly as she wants them. That’s why I’d never ‘force’ her to go and stay.
I posted to see what age others let their children make the decision. If I didn’t encourage my youngest she’d never go over either but I know once she’s there she enjoys.

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2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:24

MissDoubleU · 19/06/2025 09:18

People are keen to go through your old posts because they paint a picture. It’s not a criticism or judgement but having 3 high needs children and then moving in a difficult step child and new step parent within 4 years of leaving their dad is a lot. High needs children like you’ve described need extra stability and it seems like your DD has had constant chaos.

Yes but it’s easy for people to misjudge.
My younger two absolutely adore my dh and they have an amazing bond. My eldest also adored dh at the start and my sc adored me. Things have changed as the children have gotten older and nobody could have predicted that. Life throws obstacles at us that blended or biological family; either way would be hard. I often get complimented on how lovely, happy and polite my children are but people on here are quick to read struggles and judge that my children are suffering or that I’m not doing enough.

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sashh · 19/06/2025 09:23

That does sound hard @2025letsmakeitthebest1 sorry I can't help. Does she have a friend she could stay over with occasionally, or would you just worry then?

2025letsmakeitthebest1 · 19/06/2025 09:21

sashh · 19/06/2025 09:19

You need to prioritise your health at least some of the time.

I know it can be difficult to talk about abstract things with someone who has ASD.

Can you explain it as you need some quiet time, that if you had something like cold you would need rest and fluids, this is your mental health, you need rest and quiet.

Ask her what she can do to help?

I also agree that she may be worrying about you and her siblings.

I know she does worry a lot and keeps it to herself.
I’ve explained to her the importance of my down time to keep my own mental health level and she gets that. I can’t switch off when she’s home. I know that if anything happens I’m on call if that makes sense. She’s just been diagnosed with a leaking heart valve which is causing symptoms. When she’s with her dad I can switch off as I know he can handle things.

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sashh · 19/06/2025 09:19

You need to prioritise your health at least some of the time.

I know it can be difficult to talk about abstract things with someone who has ASD.

Can you explain it as you need some quiet time, that if you had something like cold you would need rest and fluids, this is your mental health, you need rest and quiet.

Ask her what she can do to help?

I also agree that she may be worrying about you and her siblings.