Female only housing and reaction to it

A lot of councils already house single mums/women and families together. My ex when I was a teens mum lived in a block like this. It had a great community, lots of kids who played together, felt very safe amd communal. They had no single men alliwed to be housed there.
I am not sure the practicalities of all women and no men allowed because of older children and partners.

What is the point of it if men are allowed to live there? Not a women only block then.

It’s about a means of achieving an end goal. Housing associations like Women’s Pioneer Housing, the housing association who will be a counterpart in the Acton women’s development, recognise that women often live within within a unique context which makes secure, affordable housing a particularly necessity whilst making it harder for them to obtain it - they’re more likely to be lone parents, to have to leave a relationship and their home due to abuse, women still come up against wage discrimination and the gender pay gap, single women from many minority communities are sometimes disadvantaged by patriarchal attitudes towards their lives and educations, and older single women are disadvantaged by having grown up during times where they had less control of their own earnings, ability to work in the first place, to pensions and savings and home ownership.

It’s hardly new-fangled. Women’s Pioneer Housing was founded in the 1920s by suffragists, who understood the importance of providing women with good quality affordable homes of their own, as part of their wider fight for women’s equality. Indeed, it’s in the origin stories and histories of how many of the UK’s housing associations were founded in the twentieth century: recognition that particular groups (women; Jewish people; Irish people; Caribbean people) often lived within a particular context and had particular housing needs which meant obtaining the secure and affordable housing they needed to advance and live ordinary lives was difficult.

As with many organisations and initiatives to promote and advance women’s needs and causes, men are just as capable of organising themselves to promote and advance men’s needs and causes.

You have to dig into the other thread a little to find a link to this article

https://www.landlordzone.co.uk/news/women-renters-welcome-at-novel-new-block-but-men-shown-the-door?c8209c5bpage=4

Men will only be able to live in the block if they become a tenant's partner or if they are the adult child of a female tenant and inherit the tenancy.
Transgender women, including people intending to undergo gender reassignment, will be allowed, but men who cross-dress, transgender men, and anyone with a known history of male violence against women or children will not.

So don’t think it’s being set up as a convent.

Edit: But then there is some conflicting information regarding the landlord’s requirements so who the hell knows 🤷‍♀️

That all teenage girls are bullies except you and that poster? Sure.

It’s true though

The worlds gone mad with womens rights.
Im all for it but is it just me that thinks sometimes it goes to far.

Quite

Re the actual point of the thread, I think this is a great idea in principle, but unsure how it would work.

Maybe the answer would be 1. No male over a certain age (13?) to enter the premises, even as guest 2. Anyone with a son who turns that age is found somewhere equivalent to live - as in, they’d have to be a really good system in place for that before this could be built.

No ideal, but I agree having teen boys there defeats the object.

Edit - or maybe as a pp has said, it would only work for short term lets. Which is a shame! I could see it working better for elderly women maybe?

I can see it working for short term lets but it won't work for lifelong tenancies. It's got a 5 year max lifespan before it's mixed sex I recon.

I also agree that segregation of men & women isn't the answer to VAWG but until we find what the answer is, I wish women who have suffered trauma at the hand of men could have somewhere they feel safe to call home.

A block of women's flats including male partners, men who identify as women (but for some reason, not women who identify as men?) and teenage boys just doesn't sound like it fulfils the brief to me.

I agree.

My daughter goes to an all girls comp, and the freedom it affords them has been incredible.

Bullying-wise, there doesn’t seem to be much, and less than in a mixed school by the looks of things. A lot of the bullying, whether on SM or not, that people associate with girls is probably over boys/ to impress boys.

Obviously they aren’t all perfect little angels but the freedom they have to be themselves is striking.

I can't see how this would work in practical terms

In London (and in many other areas) that just isn't possible, as private renting is unaffordable and social housing has been sold so there isn't enough left.

I think its a positive option for several reasons. Working in this borough with vunerable families, housing is a huge challenge, and its overwhelming single mums with young children who we encounter most. But there would need to be safeguards in place, such as moving to alternative housing once any male children reach 18. A proportion will move out to go to university at 18, but most will need a place to return during holidays. But this can be planned for, hopefully having safe and secure housing will enable women to get back on their feet economically and can then privately rent or join general housing wait list well in advance.

Calling out someone suggesting that all girls are bullies is not aggressive.

No, it's that your undoubtedly horrible experience has no bearing on whether this block should or can be largely or wholly single sex.

As a single 55 year old with adult children, I'd happily live somewhere like this. I'm done with men. There are plenty of women like me out there. No"whataboutary' needed.

I didn’t suggest that. Sorry that talking about the reality of my experience offends you.

You’re not exactly making a persuasive case for women being unaggressive towards other women.

Is your argument that no female-on-female bullying or aggression happens in female-only spaces?

What’s compassionate about suggesting every teenage girl is a bully?

I’m not keen as I don’t think segregation is healthy outside of certain protected safe spaces. It reminds me of a hotel I once stayed at in Saudi which had a women’s only floor. On its face a nice idea for safety reasons, but in the wider context of a wholly misogynistic culture it’s not a good thing. Separating men and women is not the answer- if there is a need for this then those issues should be addressed.

What a compassionate reply.