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Female only housing and reaction to it

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RhaenysRocks · 18/06/2025 10:46

Haven't seen another thread on this but apologies if it's already somewhere. Ealing creating a tower lock for female only residents. NOT a safe house in the traditional sense of being hidden away but female only for feelings of security etc. Depressing reactions on SM, mostly around "what about men?" "Who's going to build it"? and inevitably the question of transwomen. Also an interesting point raised about male children and what happens when they turn 18. AIBU to think this is a good initiative and it's depressing that so many reactions are automatically ignoring the valid concerns of women who are typically more vulnerable than men and crying "double standards" rather than acknowledging that it is male behaviour that has created a perceived need for this?

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JenniferBooth · 21/06/2025 21:57

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 18/06/2025 17:47

This is such a misogynistic comment.

Girls are only not nasty when boys are there to distract them?

Yes, girls can be bullies, just as boys can. I don't deny that. But your comment is vile.

The teenage girls I know fiercely defend other girls and women, I am SO proud of them. They call out internalised misogyny like yours when they see it.

My working environments have all been women or mostly women and apart from usual personality differences it has been great.

Please don't repeat things like this. It feeds into untrue stereotypes used to oppress women and make a mockery of us.

We don't need men to control us or keep us on our best behaviour, thank you very much.

And we dont need housing associations to do it either. I wouldnt want them policing my love/sex life along with everything else Too many HAs think they own tenants as it is when they just own the properties the tenants live in.

WestwardHo1 · 19/06/2025 14:51

Part of me really does like the idea of, if not communal living, but a women only community as I get older. Somewhere where you live near, but not with one another, where there is company to be found if you want it, a supportive environment with plenty to do both outside and inside. Not necessarily for retired women either, but certainly for those who are totally over the "impressing men" stage of their lives. A lot of women only stay in their marriages as they get older because they are worried about being lonely.

cadburyegg · 19/06/2025 13:23

ScholesPanda · 19/06/2025 12:31

Apologies, I obviously didn't read closely enough.

I'm glad that you don't see it as a good option either.

No worries sorry I probably overreacted!

MrsDuskTilldawn2point0 · 19/06/2025 12:46

I agree with a previous poster, that segregation probably isn’t the answer in the grand scheme of things.
I like the idea on paper. In reality I imagine it’s too difficult.
And the awful, greying cynic in me thinks: well, if someone wanted to assault a woman, they’ll know where to find a bunch of them. 😕

ScholesPanda · 19/06/2025 12:31

cadburyegg · 19/06/2025 12:27

I didn’t imply it was a “happy solution” 🙄 if you actually read the rest of my post you’d see that I said that male children should not be made homeless.

Edited

Apologies, I obviously didn't read closely enough.

I'm glad that you don't see it as a good option either.

cadburyegg · 19/06/2025 12:27

I didn’t imply it was a “happy solution” 🙄 if you actually read the rest of my post you’d see that I said that male children should not be made homeless.

BigFatLiar · 19/06/2025 12:25

CuriousKangaroo · 18/06/2025 11:36

I’m sorry that the patriarchy has done such a number on you that your internalised misogyny is this strong. This is not the reality of the vast majority of women and girls only environments. I work in a strongly feminist all women office - it is the most supportive, wonderful environment I have ever been in. My daughter goes to a strongly feminist all girls school. She and her friends are happy, supportive and uncompetitive. These places have lifted us up and I feel sad for you that you have not experienced it.

I spent a lot of time working with mainly female offices. It was awful. I don't know why or how I became the target but the bullying was constant and ended only when I changed careers.

I have no doubt that in a women only environment cliques and bullying will occur from a young age.

ScholesPanda · 19/06/2025 12:24

I think it's a good idea, although one that I think would better suit women at either end of the age spectrum- either young women starting out in life without partners or children; or divorced/widowed older women who want community but not a partner, and whose children are self-sufficient adults.

I also think it is better suited to women who can make an informed choice to be there, and understand the rules, rather than women who are homeless or desperate and will agree to anything and deal with the consequences later.

The hardest thing to solve for me is the issue with male children. I don't know how to solve this, possibly with a guarantee of alternative accomodation for either mother and son, or son alone- but would that be allowed under allocation rules? Or perhaps a no children rule?

To the PP who said 'A work colleague of mine died a few years ago, she lived in a council house with her adult son. He was given 3 weeks to leave after she died, he was only 19.'

You say this blithely, as if it is a happy solution to the problem. I see it as an inhuman way to treat someone. It happened to someone I know when they were 18, it was awful, they had just been left orphaned but were evicted in a few weeks- all of the furniture and personal effects were sold as they had nowhere to go and needed all the money they could get for a rental deposit. They ended up sofa surfing for a while, and spent time in a homeless hostel, all whilst grieving the death of his parents. So I don't see it as the happy solution that you seem to.

bestcatlife · 19/06/2025 12:18

I saw a post on instagram about this and the comments were sickening. Made me lose what faith a had left in humanity (men).

SharpLily · 19/06/2025 12:16

PollyBell · 18/06/2025 11:03

So what happens when women want partners and children? And what happens when boys become teenagers then adults?

Then they have to move out. You can't choose female only housing and then decide to change it. That idea works for those who don't want to live with men, that's the point of it. If you want men staying over then this is not the place for you.

However yes, the rules around male children do complicate matters and a number of the rules in general seem very muddy. It's a good idea in theory but a lot more thinking needs to be done before it could work successfully.

Naunet · 19/06/2025 12:13

Iceboy80 · 19/06/2025 09:17

This is not OK, unless they do the same for men, a male block

Why? Are men incapable of doing it for themselves?

It's a load of bollocks anyway, its not female only

Youagain2025 · 19/06/2025 12:01

There's simlar in my area. They seem pretty pointless. From my understanding the woman is the one on the tenancy. She can meet someone have a partner live with her. But he can't ever go on the tenancy and wont ever have any rights to stay in the home if there was a relationship breakdown.

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 19/06/2025 11:56

@cadburyegg the website says boyfriends are allowed to be moved in, and transwomen (biological males) are allowed.
So the 'women only' is a lie, just for a marketing gimmick.

cadburyegg · 19/06/2025 11:54

Great idea. A few possible issues as pp described.

Handing down tenancies to male partners or children would be easy to prevent. Passing down tenancies isn’t allowed in many areas anyway. A work colleague of mine died a few years ago, she lived in a council house with her adult son. He was given 3 weeks to leave after she died, he was only 19.

It would be very difficult to stop women having male partners to stay over, so any potential tenants would need to be aware that men would still be in the building.

There would have to be an understanding that male children could continue to live there after hitting puberty or whenever, or found alternative accommodation. They should not be faced with homelessness.

I’d be concerned that unscrupulous men would target women living there knowing there are very few men in the building / that the building houses predominantly women living on their own / women with children. Does it actually make these women more vulnerable?

So the idea could work, with caveats.

Indianajet · 19/06/2025 11:52

This one's not going to end well.

WestwardHo1 · 19/06/2025 11:49

Though the "what about the poor men" chorus totally fails to realise that if men did the same for men (go on then, if you want to), they would still be at risk of violence and assault. Because it's men doing the violent assaults. Like, duh.

Edited for typo

WestwardHo1 · 19/06/2025 11:46

Honon · 18/06/2025 11:13

The reality of this is its not what the vast majority of women want. For all the problems the patriarchy causes, most women want men in their lives: sons, partners, fathers.

If the council genuinely creates a 100% male-free housing block I seriously doubt they would find enough women wanting to live there.

I don't want this way forward myself, I don't think segregation is the answer.

Exactly this. Women (almost all women anyway) just want men to behave, not to erase them from our lives entirely.

Sounds to me like it would only work if all the women remained single and child free forever. No male visits ever. Not just romantic partners, but brothers, friends, nephews, sons, dads....completely unworkable.

minnienono · 19/06/2025 11:42

This isn’t what it first appeared, there’s no bar on men living there for starters. With the planned policies as stated in the media it appears discriminatory in initial tenancy but then not sticking to it, plus bar women with older male children has been reported. I support same sex spaces but this isn’t, it’s a weird hybrid

Rednotdead · 19/06/2025 11:37

Unfortunate that it’s needed and unfortunately, unworkable.

gannett · 19/06/2025 10:05

A performative and logistically unworkable gimmick is going to do fuck all to combat the problem of VAWG. It'd be interesting as an undergrad thought experiment but it's unserious to be debating it as an actual solution (and also mischaracterises what it actually is in real life).

heartlessbitch · 19/06/2025 09:47

I really hate the idea. Not because I hate the idea of female-only accommodation... because this has been publicised so much. It's giving violent, hateful men an X marks the spot of where to find their victims.

You wouldn't write an article about where the next women's refuge was being built...

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 19/06/2025 09:44

@Iceboy80 why don't men arrange building one just for them, if it's needed? Who is it that males need a safe area from?

SandlersToe · 19/06/2025 09:33

😩😩 WON'T SOMEONE FINK OF THE MENZZZ!!

Iceboy80 · 19/06/2025 09:17

This is not OK, unless they do the same for men, a male block

HardyCrow · 18/06/2025 23:14

Allergycream · 18/06/2025 13:15

The worlds gone mad with womens rights.
Im all for it but is it just me that thinks sometimes it goes to far.

Yes - just you