Why is it fair that Scottish carers get more carers allowance than English carers?

cityanalyst678 · 10/11/2025 18:28

With the Barnett Formula, they receive more money from central government, for each individual person. They are also running up a much higher debt, which is pretty shocking.

Gingerkittykat · 10/11/2025 18:25

Hoooray · 18/06/2025 11:03

Scotland also gets free prescriptions, free university tuition, baby boxes and free water. Some of us do pay higher income tax, though. Devolution means that there are some significant differences between how England and Scotland are run.

YANBU to feel your carers' allowance is inadequate. It is, and should be higher.

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We dont' get free water, water and waste water are separate charges on our council tax bills. In my region, the charge for water and waste water ranges between £400 annd £1100 per year. We don't pay bills to private companies or have water meters but we still pay!

I think NI might have free water, but happy to be corrected if that is not true.

BigAnne · 10/11/2025 18:09

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 10/11/2025 17:41

I pay a fuck of a lot more tax than I would if I lived in England. How is that fair?

You'll be thankful if you or any family members need personal care in the future.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 10/11/2025 17:41

I pay a fuck of a lot more tax than I would if I lived in England. How is that fair?

Gwenhwyfar · 10/11/2025 17:39

It's what the Scottish people voted for. If you want that in England, you need to vote for it!

BigAnne · 10/11/2025 17:34

HappyGilmorex · 10/11/2025 16:14

Maybe if England hadn't voted for fourteen years of Tory rule it wouldn't be that way. I appreciate this is not your fault and is probably a great source of frustration if you're not a Tory voter yourself, but the reality is England trends more right wing than Scotland and as a result has a worse societal safety net.

We do pay higher taxes in Scotland, too.

We also have a lower rate of 19% for low earners.

GroundControlToMajorTomCat · 10/11/2025 17:22

winter8090 · 10/11/2025 15:48

Welcome to socialist Scotland. Until the next election anyway.

I’d rather have socialist Scotland (which isn't socialist by the way) that the Tory-lites down south.

GroundControlToMajorTomCat · 10/11/2025 17:20

It’s a decision taken by the Scottish government. If you want more money complain to your politicians rather than complaining about Scotland.

HappyGilmorex · 10/11/2025 16:14

Maybe if England hadn't voted for fourteen years of Tory rule it wouldn't be that way. I appreciate this is not your fault and is probably a great source of frustration if you're not a Tory voter yourself, but the reality is England trends more right wing than Scotland and as a result has a worse societal safety net.

We do pay higher taxes in Scotland, too.

Computersaysdontwantto · 10/11/2025 16:08

winter8090 · 10/11/2025 15:48

Welcome to socialist Scotland. Until the next election anyway.

My goodness I hope they get voted out. They’re so embarrassingly inept. So lacking in intelligence and common sense. It’s just shameful. They get £2k more to spend on every man woman and child than in England, and yet still somehow we manage to have worse public services.

winter8090 · 10/11/2025 15:48

Welcome to socialist Scotland. Until the next election anyway.

FenceBooksCycle · 10/11/2025 15:44

Because it's a devolved issue and Scotland chooses to pay a higher tax in order to put more money into expenditure including this. England might have the same if it didn't have a track record of punishing at the ballot box any party that dares suggest that taxes could rise.

itsthetea · 10/11/2025 15:41

Tax rates are higher in Scotland ?

we don’t get the money that Londoners get to spend on transport so we spent it elsewhere ?

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Finto1111 · 10/11/2025 15:32

KindleAndCake · 18/06/2025 10:09

With the carers supplement they get twice a year, it boils down to just over £11 a week more than English carers. They're all doing the same old slog, so why is it fair.
I am caring for 2 people, it is hard going. I only get carers for 1 though as that is how the system works. Ive just found out that Scottish carers get a supplement twice a year, lucky ducks. Well sort of, better than nowt.
So my question is, why? I thought we were one nation. Am I being unreasonable here.

Because it's a different country?

TigerIamNot · 10/11/2025 15:30

Sahara123 · 19/06/2025 18:54

It’s not higher apparently, it’s the same. Although I haven’t checked personally

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The pip equivalent is paid at the same rate in Scotland as Pip on England. just some people sprouting nonsense here.

Ihatetomatoes · 10/11/2025 09:44

Computersaysdontwantto · 18/06/2025 10:31

Scotland gets £2,000 more per hear a year to spend than it raises in taxes thanks to the Barnett formula. Instead of improving public services with this money it chooses to give this money away in benefits and ‘free’ things. Prescriptions, baby boxes, university tuition, much higher pip equivalent, no bedroom tax etc. they keep getting voted in by people living off benefits, public services keep getting worse, income tax on those earning more than the average wage keeps going up.

Its the way the SNP thinks a country should be run.

This.

We pay so they can give it away. Stop paying them more.

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/11/2025 02:15

Computersaysdontwantto · 18/06/2025 10:59

Do you think Carers allowance should be at minimum wage? Because that would bankrupt the country instantly.

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Because they are saving the country an absolute fortune.

ARichtGoodDram · 19/06/2025 23:04

It’s not higher apparently, it’s the same. Although I haven’t checked personally

They are indeed exactly the same

Why is it fair that Scottish carers get more carers allowance than English carers?

tammienorrie · 19/06/2025 18:57

Scotland’s universities are so cash strapped that one is almost bankrupt. It’s not sustainable.

Sahara123 · 19/06/2025 18:54

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 18/06/2025 13:37

Oh yeah I'm up in Scotland as well, I just wasn't aware that the Adult Disability Payment was higher than PIP? And yes it does get confusing....DLA, PIP, now ADP....gets confusing!

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It’s not higher apparently, it’s the same. Although I haven’t checked personally

rainbowunicorn · 19/06/2025 15:55

Hoooray · 18/06/2025 11:03

Scotland also gets free prescriptions, free university tuition, baby boxes and free water. Some of us do pay higher income tax, though. Devolution means that there are some significant differences between how England and Scotland are run.

YANBU to feel your carers' allowance is inadequate. It is, and should be higher.

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Scotland does not get free water. The water and sewage charges are paid along with council tax. A band C house is paying over £500 a year for this.

L0bstersLass · 19/06/2025 15:02

TruthOrAlethiometer · 19/06/2025 11:25

I think when people say, “English Government” they just mean the decisions Westminster make which only apply to England as the other nations are devolved for those issues.

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They may very well do, but that is still the British Government.
I believe that using the correct terms for instututions is helpful in avoiding confusion.

I also believe that the vast majority of many people using the term English Government have absolutely no idea about devolution in Scotland or Wales, let alone the powers associated with the various devolution deals in place in English with, for example, the regional mayors.

BigAnne · 19/06/2025 12:27

Fedupmumofadultsons · 19/06/2025 10:04

I suppose because we pay higher taxes and care here is different anyone under pension age needing care it's a big chunk of there money to pay for it .Just different horse for courses

Any adult in Scotland assessed as needing personal care is eligible to receive it free. It doesn't just apply to people of pension age.

TruthOrAlethiometer · 19/06/2025 11:25

L0bstersLass · 19/06/2025 09:59

There's no such thing as the English Government.
I feel this is one of the main reasons that folk living in England have such a limited understanding of devolution in general and especially the devolved powers of the other nations.

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I think when people say, “English Government” they just mean the decisions Westminster make which only apply to England as the other nations are devolved for those issues.