MPs vote to decriminalise abortion

How do you all not understand that any woman who miscarries or has a stillbirth can be accused of procuring her own abortion? The new law makes that tragic overreach of state power less likely.

Backstreet abortion has been legalised.
Women will be able to abort up to birth at home.
How will they be expected to dispose of the infant's body?

People aren’t having late term abortions for fun
what about a woman who doesn’t find out she is pregnant until late on, then goes for a scan and her baby has problems which means it will die at birth or shortly after
you can look up later term abortions and the reasons women have given for having them and not one has been a “bad” reason

This is crazy. You can’t give away rights to prevent bad people from seizing them. You have to accept continuously fighting for our rights.

Edited to say, I quoted the wrong person.

I see it was passed with a very sizeable majority in the House of Commons? Decisive, fortunately.

it's about overturning a Victorian piece of legislation that criminalises individual women for terminating a baby past 24 weeks.

Taken from the BBC website:

" The law will still penalise anyone who assists a woman, including medical professionals, in getting an abortion outside the current legal framework".

This change follows the rather worrying prosecution of Nicola Packer.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp852g0l6j6o

If anyone is a fan of the podcast Electoral Dysfunction, they talk about it in the latest episode.

@nautys which part was stupid? You must be a joy when it comes to healthy debate. This is how 5 year olds respond

Yes I can. Your opinion is stupid too, in my opinion. Are you allowed one and I’m not?

Big, big assumption there that Reform will take power. It’s excellent news.

Which bit?

please educate yourself. this is not at all what the amendment to the law will mean.

This isn’t true

You can’t call someone stupid because you don’t agree with their opinion

This. I wholeheartedly agree. People forget that it’s an actual babies life

Don't be so bloody ridiculous. It's not changed the law at all on abortions after 24 weeks it just seeking not to criminilise women. Abortions after 24 weeks are vanishingly rare and this isn't going to become a mass issue so reform won't have a basis to start a culture war other than to roll back abortion laws because they are a bunch of misogynistic twats.

@Witchling

The vast, vast majority of women are never investigated by the police.

A few regretful cases should not be justification for imposing such an extreme change to a settled issue.

But this means that women can have proper medical care, and don't need to worry about negotiating a police investigation while dealing with a still birth or being kept alive to be an incubator.

You already said this on the other thread. Unless two posters have both decided this is a "culture war" issue in those exact words. 😵‍💫 Not sure why you feel the need to pundit this all over the shop TBH.

YANBU OP, fantastic news, and also thanks for starting a thread with a clear outcome for those of us who don't want to keep going back to that long thread about how terrible this might be for the poor kiddies and trawling through to see updates amidst the nonsense.

@Witchling

There's no reason to criminalise anything by that logic.

The vast majority of people are never going to consider stabbing someone. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal to do so.

All in all, it’s good news. No one will be ‘allowed’ to have a late term abortion short of very specific situations which are already covered in current law.

But women having a stillbirth or miscarriage, after having considered termination earlier in the pregnancy, need no longer fear being investigated and prosecuted.

The idea that police are trawling through women’s period tracking apps is abhorrent. And it’s remarkable they have time for that but not many other crimes.

Good news

This is excellent news if you want to roll back abortion rights.

My prediction is that Reform will now use this as a campaign issue. Especially once there is a case where a baby has been aborted after 24 weeks and suffered significant pain.

There will be no more abortion once Reform gain power in 2029.

I hate to say it, but those who have pushed what was a settled issue into a culture war battle will only have themselves to blame.