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To find days off with my kids almost unbearable?

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saynn · 17/06/2025 13:20

Which is horrible but hear me out. They are 4 (5 in October, start school then) and 1 (2 in August.) I have Wednesdays and Thursdays off with them. And I hate it.

I know it’s horrible but it’s the way it’s just impossible to get anything done at all without someone wanting something, whining, falling out, demanding something. I know I need to lower standards but I do find it hard when there’s a mess or something and plus we do need to eat!

I do take them out as much as I can but even that’s getting to be hard work as one is a very slow walker and the other a very speedy runner.

I’m desperately counting the days until my older child starts school as both of them together just about finishes me off.

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saynn · 17/06/2025 20:50

Zapx · 17/06/2025 20:49

My 1yo absolutely loved the Zog stuff at Warwick. They’re about to start a new play of it as well because they’re bringing out Zog and the flying doctors 😊

I’m sure she’d love it; it’s the nap that’s the tricky part!

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Zapx · 17/06/2025 20:50

(And the jousting show is great too- kids were all mesmerised)

saynn · 17/06/2025 20:50

you sound like you're resigned to being unable to have any fun with your kids

In this past week alone, we’ve done forest playgroup, walked through woods, found baby frogs, been to two national trust properties and walked around and been to the play areas, been to the park many times, walked round the lake, fed some ponies some apples and watched bats in the garden.

I possibly sound a bit defensive but it can be frustrating when people catch you on a low moment and start making declarations that aren’t true. I make a huge effort but I do reserve the right to find it exhausting and often a bit stressful.

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Zapx · 17/06/2025 20:49

My 1yo absolutely loved the Zog stuff at Warwick. They’re about to start a new play of it as well because they’re bringing out Zog and the flying doctors 😊

saynn · 17/06/2025 20:47

Possibly, but we’re focusing a bit on one small part of things. I’m just explaining I’m not a witch and I do love them both - but together is definitely a challenge!

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 17/06/2025 20:46

saynn · 17/06/2025 20:40

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos - childcare is around £80 a day and I just don’t have that sort of money, and we don’t have grandparents. I realise you’re trying to be helpful and thank you but I’m just explaining how things are. I do know my own situation, finances and so on and if we had family support I’d use it but we don’t.

Could DH/DP take a day of AL to have little one?

I know you know your situation, but you sound like you're resigned to being unable to have any fun with your kids and sometimes you just need to find a way to do it, even if it means going outside of the norm.

I get it. I only have one but she's very strong willed and very smart and must be busy at all times so she's amazing but hard work and sometimes I would rather be at work. And that makes me feel guilty but it is what it is.

Find a way to have some fun with your eldest. Ask a friend to come with you and keep an eye on little one. Heck, ask me, DD is 3, she'd love Zog land, it's not far from us, I keep meaning to take her.

JMSA · 17/06/2025 20:45

Ninkynonkpinkyponks · 17/06/2025 13:50

Have you posted about this before OP or another similar mum has written something very similar!

🙄

OP, I hear ya.

saynn · 17/06/2025 20:40

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos - childcare is around £80 a day and I just don’t have that sort of money, and we don’t have grandparents. I realise you’re trying to be helpful and thank you but I’m just explaining how things are. I do know my own situation, finances and so on and if we had family support I’d use it but we don’t.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 17/06/2025 20:39

saynn · 17/06/2025 20:36

I’m a teacher and don’t get annual leave - or I would!

So put little one in childcare or take her to grandparents on one of your non working days, just once (it won't hurt her, promise) and take him on his own.

It'll be lovely for little one to have some one on one with grandparents or to have an "adventure" in nursery on a different day and it'll be lovely for eldest to have mummy to himself for a day out.

It's win win.

saynn · 17/06/2025 20:36

NameChange30 · 17/06/2025 20:29

Actually yes this - much better!

I’m a teacher and don’t get annual leave - or I would!

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lifeonmars100 · 17/06/2025 20:31

Pickingmyselfup · 17/06/2025 16:28

"I'm bored" TV, playstation, laptop, board games, books, crafts, the park, a sibling... nope, still bored. Obviously the place they want to go to costs £££ when we've already spent £££ on days out and holidays.

"I'm hungry" Snack central, breakfast and lunch made...what else can they possibly want?!

I'm sure I was the same, I was an only child and used to get bored if I had nobody to play with so I was packed off outside.

And whining is international! All kids from all backgrounds and cultures have perfected that sound. Went swimming a while back and there were a couple of little Polish girls in the changing room speaking Polish but with that tone to their voices while talking to their mum

NameChange30 · 17/06/2025 20:29

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 17/06/2025 20:02

Why don't you take a day off (annual leave), take elder child out of nursery for the day and take him to the Zog thing on his own? While younger is at nursery/in childcare?

Or, if you have grandparents who are involved, or a reliable babysitter, utilise them? Or take grandparents with you to entertain younger?

Do it like a special one on one day before he starts nursery.

Its absolutely acceptable, and good for the kids, to have some one on one time.

Actually yes this - much better!

Fundayout2025 · 17/06/2025 20:24

Bebee1 · 17/06/2025 18:57

I should also say (as someone who has the exact same age gap as you), the more you are at home the less demanding they are.

Think about it: they’re only having you to themselves two days a week. So they’re likely to compete for your attention and play up a lot more.

That’s why, counter-intuitively. the solution isn’t to spend less time with them but more.

Surely it's 4 days a week if OP has weekends off also

NameChange30 · 17/06/2025 20:23

saynn · 17/06/2025 18:48

@NameChange30 there’s two years and nine months but two school years as one is one of the oldest and the younger one will be one of the youngest when she starts.

He is definitely ready for school and I do feel guilty that I’m not able to devote more time, both to doing activities that will be harder when he starts school (or at least busier) and to things like reading and jigsaws that are good for his development.

An example, one of his favourite books is Zog and I really want to go to the zog experience at Warwick castle, I know he’d love it. But the toddler would be very difficult and someone ultimately will struggle somewhere. A small thing really but there’s so much stuff like that I want to do but can’t!

Why don't you go at the weekend or one day when your partner has a day off so you can all go?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 17/06/2025 20:07

GinnyandGeorgia · 17/06/2025 18:53

You were lucky to have a long sleeper, what are you complaining about? 😂
You are the one moaning about having children when you only have them a couple of days a week, and they sleep a lot.

Honestly, this is a wind up surely?

Do you know what, you're right. One child sleeping for an hour a day is a LOT (🙄) and absolutely means that the remaining hours in the day can't be hard work when you have two children who have vastly different needs.

People feel differently to you in all scenarios. Try and open your mind and see that.

I found it no problem at all when DD dropped her nap. From how jealous you sound of OPs sleeper, I imagine you would have quite liked one who slept more and found it tiring when they didn't sleep well. Shall I tell you that's ridiculous?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 17/06/2025 20:02

saynn · 17/06/2025 18:48

@NameChange30 there’s two years and nine months but two school years as one is one of the oldest and the younger one will be one of the youngest when she starts.

He is definitely ready for school and I do feel guilty that I’m not able to devote more time, both to doing activities that will be harder when he starts school (or at least busier) and to things like reading and jigsaws that are good for his development.

An example, one of his favourite books is Zog and I really want to go to the zog experience at Warwick castle, I know he’d love it. But the toddler would be very difficult and someone ultimately will struggle somewhere. A small thing really but there’s so much stuff like that I want to do but can’t!

Why don't you take a day off (annual leave), take elder child out of nursery for the day and take him to the Zog thing on his own? While younger is at nursery/in childcare?

Or, if you have grandparents who are involved, or a reliable babysitter, utilise them? Or take grandparents with you to entertain younger?

Do it like a special one on one day before he starts nursery.

Its absolutely acceptable, and good for the kids, to have some one on one time.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/06/2025 19:50

GinnyandGeorgia · 17/06/2025 19:04

You are the one making a thread asking if YABU to find days with your kids "Unbearable" your word

This is a public forum, yes I think YAB massively U to find it "unbearable" in the circumstances you explained.

When posters suggested things you could do that could help, you rudely told them you didn't want advice, just people to agree that everything is a negative.
So I am saying YABU.

I also said YABU to the poster complaining that if she didn't watch her toddler, he would reach for the bleach. Instead of you know.. putting the bleach away where he couldn't reach?

It's bizarre to be irritated because posters (not even me) point out things that make your own life harder than it needs be.

It isn't rude to say that you don't need advice about activities etc when it isn't finding activities to do that is the issue. Neither is it rude to say that you already have a routine or that toddler group no longer really works when you have a 4 year old ready to start school.

MoistVonL · 17/06/2025 19:23

I honestly think a great deal is about your (one’s) expectations and doing planning.

When DC3 was 6 months old, DP’s employer told him he had been assigned to a project 240 miles away for 18 months. He had never had to be away more than one night a month before that.

I had a 6yo with autism, 3yo with ADHD and small baby. Quite frankly, I let standards of housekeeping drop like a stone, easiest meals I could Chuck together one handed and had DC3 in a sling until she was too big to need a buggy.

Almost every task was a “game” the children played because it wouldn’t happen otherwise. Taking turns choosing the song we would race to clean up before the end of, “World Championships” of hopping competitions or star jumps or whatever while I cooked the food, Being A Restaurant in which getting to lay the table was a treat (I learned that from reading Tom Sawyer).

I know it’s draining and you can’t meet everyone’s needs all the time, but as long as everyone gets a bit of something they like, it’s not as bad as all that.

They’re adults now and still think we played great games when they were small. The middle one twigged this year that most of the “games” were just ways for me to cope.

saynn · 17/06/2025 19:19

phoenixrosehere · 17/06/2025 19:15

She said almost and said she was simply venting.

Where was she rude? If some could bother to read her posts, she wouldn’t have to repeat herself.

Tbf, you’ve been quite rude to any poster who says they find it hard too because it was seemingly easy or simple for you when you don’t have the same children or know their circumstances.

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Some people are just argumentative.

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phoenixrosehere · 17/06/2025 19:15

GinnyandGeorgia · 17/06/2025 19:04

You are the one making a thread asking if YABU to find days with your kids "Unbearable" your word

This is a public forum, yes I think YAB massively U to find it "unbearable" in the circumstances you explained.

When posters suggested things you could do that could help, you rudely told them you didn't want advice, just people to agree that everything is a negative.
So I am saying YABU.

I also said YABU to the poster complaining that if she didn't watch her toddler, he would reach for the bleach. Instead of you know.. putting the bleach away where he couldn't reach?

It's bizarre to be irritated because posters (not even me) point out things that make your own life harder than it needs be.

She said almost and said she was simply venting.

Where was she rude? If some could bother to read her posts, she wouldn’t have to repeat herself.

Tbf, you’ve been quite rude to any poster who says they find it hard too because it was seemingly easy or simple for you when you don’t have the same children or know their circumstances.

Toomuchcuddles · 17/06/2025 19:12

Thank you for making this post!

just spent the afternoon waiting in for a washing machine with my 4 and 1 year old... they squabble and whine the whole time.

managed to do some baking this evening but now my husband has come home complaining about the mess in the kitchen from the baking...

I have gone out with the dog.. had enough of today :(

saynn · 17/06/2025 19:10

Bebee1 · 17/06/2025 18:57

I should also say (as someone who has the exact same age gap as you), the more you are at home the less demanding they are.

Think about it: they’re only having you to themselves two days a week. So they’re likely to compete for your attention and play up a lot more.

That’s why, counter-intuitively. the solution isn’t to spend less time with them but more.

I’m actually dropping another day at work next year but I don’t mind as I do genuinely enjoy them individually! It’s the combination I find too much.

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GinnyandGeorgia · 17/06/2025 19:04

saynn · 17/06/2025 18:55

I don’t think I am the one on a wind up. Since the start to the thread you’ve been twisting what’s been said and it’s not only me who has become irritated with it.

No one minds an alternative point of view, but when people are just twisting things to make others reply and say ‘well actually’ so they can keep on and on arguing it’s pointless and tedious. That isn’t having a discussion, it’s just a petty squabble.

You are the one making a thread asking if YABU to find days with your kids "Unbearable" your word

This is a public forum, yes I think YAB massively U to find it "unbearable" in the circumstances you explained.

When posters suggested things you could do that could help, you rudely told them you didn't want advice, just people to agree that everything is a negative.
So I am saying YABU.

I also said YABU to the poster complaining that if she didn't watch her toddler, he would reach for the bleach. Instead of you know.. putting the bleach away where he couldn't reach?

It's bizarre to be irritated because posters (not even me) point out things that make your own life harder than it needs be.

PassTheLemonDrizzle · 17/06/2025 19:02

It’s hard balancing the needs of those 2 ages but I promise it will get easier. The older one starting school will be a game changer. Hang in there!

Bebee1 · 17/06/2025 18:57

I should also say (as someone who has the exact same age gap as you), the more you are at home the less demanding they are.

Think about it: they’re only having you to themselves two days a week. So they’re likely to compete for your attention and play up a lot more.

That’s why, counter-intuitively. the solution isn’t to spend less time with them but more.