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To find days off with my kids almost unbearable?

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saynn · 17/06/2025 13:20

Which is horrible but hear me out. They are 4 (5 in October, start school then) and 1 (2 in August.) I have Wednesdays and Thursdays off with them. And I hate it.

I know it’s horrible but it’s the way it’s just impossible to get anything done at all without someone wanting something, whining, falling out, demanding something. I know I need to lower standards but I do find it hard when there’s a mess or something and plus we do need to eat!

I do take them out as much as I can but even that’s getting to be hard work as one is a very slow walker and the other a very speedy runner.

I’m desperately counting the days until my older child starts school as both of them together just about finishes me off.

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Lyocell · 17/06/2025 13:53

Christ @saynn youve been given a hard time here. Totally understand and that age gap is hard to meet both of their needs. The best advice I could give is to split them up. Could you put one in nursery and extra day each? For example Tuesday baby goes to nursery and you have a day with eldest, Thursday eldest goes in, you have baby. I bet you’d actually enjoy spending time with them individually. Appreciate that Costa money tho.

saynn · 17/06/2025 13:51

Ninkynonkpinkyponks · 17/06/2025 13:50

Have you posted about this before OP or another similar mum has written something very similar!

I think there a lot of us out there …

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waterrat · 17/06/2025 13:50

I think that is a Hard age for it. They have different needs at 1 and 4 as well.

I definitely don't judge as I increased my 3 Yr old to 9 til 3 daily from mornings even tho I could have collected her some days earlier. As I also found it a slog

But. There have been times I enjoyed the days of park plays etc

Do you get enough socialising into your data ?! I mean I'd just try and massively fill the time with meeting up with other mums and kids and being out most of the day

Ninkynonkpinkyponks · 17/06/2025 13:50

Have you posted about this before OP or another similar mum has written something very similar!

Helpmeout12345 · 17/06/2025 13:49

Are you able to put 1 year old into nursery/childcare for an extra morning on either Wednesday or Thursday? Then when your 4 year old starts school you’ll have a morning once a week by yourself to chill, have some time out.

What is the rest of your week like, do you have a partner? Are you having any me time in the evenings? I feel like having a social life and having an evening to myself really helps set the week off straight.

I also do think it’s not realistic to not do any housework on the days you do not work :( I work part time too!

ConkerGame · 17/06/2025 13:48

saynn · 17/06/2025 13:46

don’t try to do household stuff

Some stuff does need doing though, with the best will in the world. I don’t expect them to leave me to it for hours and hours but I do need to prepare meals for them, clear up spills, put toys away and wipe down surfaces, maybe put a wash on. That’s literally the level of household chores we’re talking about here.

I genuinely don’t think it’s good for them or me to have a cluttered and messy environment, lived in yes, tip, no!

I would get them to help with all of those things. They will be done slower but it will fill the time

BarnacleBeasley · 17/06/2025 13:47

I just want to add that because my DP and I both work full time and both sometimes go away for work (or pleasure!), we both know how relentless it is looking after both kids together and we make sure we lavish praise and gratitude on the other whenever she has been doing it. So please do make sure your partner knows how much effort it is!

saynn · 17/06/2025 13:46

don’t try to do household stuff

Some stuff does need doing though, with the best will in the world. I don’t expect them to leave me to it for hours and hours but I do need to prepare meals for them, clear up spills, put toys away and wipe down surfaces, maybe put a wash on. That’s literally the level of household chores we’re talking about here.

I genuinely don’t think it’s good for them or me to have a cluttered and messy environment, lived in yes, tip, no!

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PomeloOud · 17/06/2025 13:44

That’s sad to read.

Don’t try and do household stuff on those days. Devote them to the children as though that’s your job.

I often think I’d love to go back and have my children that age again. Just for a day mind, I’m not insane 😂

saynn · 17/06/2025 13:43

I found being pregnant with a child that age very hard @Emilysmum90 and I am so glad I don’t have to do it again!

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Emilysmum90 · 17/06/2025 13:42

Yeah i totally get you OP. I have a day at home with my toddler midweek, she is in the bloody depths of the terrible twos and it is without a doubt the most difficult and exhausting day of the week. Doesn't help that I'm pregnant and absolutely shattered myself. So i view it as a "cheat day." Easy meals, stories, TV if you need it, absolutely no housework or tidying that day. Bribes to get in the buggy/wash hands or whatever. Many snacks. If I keep her fed and the tantrums to a bare minimum I feel like it's a win.

saynn · 17/06/2025 13:42

They are lovely apart. Really lovely children. Together in just don’t get a chance to take a breath. The talking and the demanding and the asking the same question fifty times and …

I have been queen of toddler groups but my older one is just too old. He’s twice the size of most of the other children. And while I don’t have an endless list of chores the sort of mess the children can make isn’t sustainable in terms of ignoring it all day. Otherwise I’d be breaking my neck on toys.

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Dontlletmedownbruce · 17/06/2025 13:42

I am not surprised OP. I was SAHM for a while and it is a myth that you get to catch up on housework and have downtime, certainly if you have more than one. I often used to envy FT parents getting a 30 min lunch break. I also was working til about 10pm at night to get organised for the next day and beyond. It was frustrating hearing FT workers implying they were the only ones that were busy 24/7. Minding a 1 yr old for an extra 8 hours is an occupation, that's why we pay so much for childminders. All that said, it gets much much easier as they get older and beyond the toddler years.

Try to prep dinners or snacks or whatever the night before same as you would do if you were working all day. Set up play areas and activities in advance and let them play they shouldn't keep making you play with them, the whole point is they play themselves.

It might be worth doing out a routine, the 4 yr old is old enough to understand this. Allocate time for quiet time when baby sleeps and 4 yr old has to leave you alone for 30 mins or so. You can get your bits at home done then and have a 10 min break too. Also don't be afraid to be firm with them, at almost 5 they are capable of leaving you take a break. Free play, art, snack, outdoor time, lunch, nap & quiet time, free play, garden etc etc.

Also don't feel guilty. There is a reason women mostly decided to move into the workforce. Being at home with kids is really difficult. Many parents who do PT (in my experience) find kids act up way more with them than they would at childminder or with SAHM.

U53rn8m3ch8ng3 · 17/06/2025 13:41

Thats sad to be honest, it's hard yes but like anything in life it's what you make of it. Lower your expectations on what you're wanting to achieve outside of childcare and try and have some fun. You'll miss them when they're at school every day or you're at work full time.

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 17/06/2025 13:40

It's hard work being a mum! I guess it's about giving them the best day you can, and if that means forgoing chores then so be it. I do get where you are coming from though.....

User37482 · 17/06/2025 13:39

Oh god yeah that age is awful. It will eventually get better x

Rainallnight · 17/06/2025 13:38

I hear you. I found that stage very difficult with two, and you have a particularly tricky age gap (just now - it won’t always be like this). Moan away.

phoenixrosehere · 17/06/2025 13:38

SUPerSaver721 · 17/06/2025 13:33

It's hell being at home with wee ones. I hate the judgement from pp it's lovely and you should cherish every moment. They are only young once. Honestly it's hard with a 1 and 4 year old. The whining used to get to me aswel. I used to wish I was still at work.

Same. I don’t like the judgment either.

It often depends on the child’s demeanour and personality. It’s as if some forget that children have their own and sometimes it doesn’t gel with yours or their other sibling and it makes things more difficult, doesn’t mean you don’t love or enjoy some things with them.

saynn · 17/06/2025 13:37

I think we have a fairly good routine. It doesn’t make it enjoyable though. There are small things - like my younger one hates her pushchair and refuses it. Now that’s OK; sometimes she just has to, but it’s not really enjoyable for anyone to have a whining, grouchy, tearful toddler trying to escape and getting increasingly frustrated. So mostly I avoid if possible.

We do go to parks, walks, ponds, feed the ducks, have been to castles and national trust events and the like, but yes sue me for not loving it all 😂

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laesosalt · 17/06/2025 13:36

@SUPerSaver721 Yikes! Never said to cherish every moment. I’ve got 3 under 5, they are supposed to make noise and be children.

middleagedandinarage · 17/06/2025 13:35

This makes me sad, I'm the opposite, dread work days haha.
You definitely need to change your expectation, the reason you're not working on these days are to look after your children, not for other chores although agree these do need to happen.
Find an activity or group you can take them both too in the morning, everyone up, breakfast and out the house. Home for lunch then children will likely nap of at least have quiet time while you get a bit caught up then another activity in the afternoon, walk to the park or something.
Please try to embrace it, these years pass so fast 🙃

Dominicus · 17/06/2025 13:34

Get a routine for your days off.
how do you spend the weekends?

SUPerSaver721 · 17/06/2025 13:33

It's hell being at home with wee ones. I hate the judgement from pp it's lovely and you should cherish every moment. They are only young once. Honestly it's hard with a 1 and 4 year old. The whining used to get to me aswel. I used to wish I was still at work.

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 17/06/2025 13:33

Here as a mum of twins to make you realise it could be worse Grin.

  1. Two outings a day, morning and afternoon
  2. Slower walker in a pram, and/or you go somewhere contained so elder can hare off (safely)
  3. Forget about housework
  4. Meals - sandwiches with cucumber sticks, make the evening before. Even better if they'll sit for a picnic out.
  5. When younger one naps older one watches a little TV and you zone out too / browse your phone / do a chore.
saynn · 17/06/2025 13:33

ZImono · 17/06/2025 13:28

Okay so...

Is the dread that you cant do house work or that you dread spending time with your kids?

Asking so I can attempt practical advice

Edited

To be honest I’m not looking for practical advice so much as sharing my dread feeling. It really is like a form of Sunday blues.

It isn’t spending time with my kids as such. It’s the fact that both together they are a lot. The noise and the mess is awful. My solution always used to be taking them out which I still do but it isn’t always easy to find nice things we can all do. If I just had my eldest I’d be doing lots of exciting things but I can’t do that easily with my younger one. If I just had her then I could do the toddler groups and the like.

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