Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

The whole thing is a grey area as I said upthread. There are valid arguments on both sides to the legitimacy of this conflict. It looks to me like it tips over into being an illegal attack on a sovereign nation but I'm not an international lawyer (or any kind of lawyer) and they're the ones who'll be arguing this at some point in the future.

The other problem is that attacking Iran is unlikely to solve any hatred of Israel/the West. It'll just radicalise more people, make terror attacks more likely in the West, and send millions of refugees our way.

The devil is in the detail with a lot of the Geneva Conventions, for example in the case of Article 56 you might want to look at the caveats that state when protection from an attack might cease...

Not sure if you are joking or throwing these words about because you lack empathy.

Heaven forfend people are offended. How about: ethnic cleansing and war crimes? I'm sure that's more palatable.

How can you be certain about the rhetoric being as you suggest?

Plus it’s clear other democracies are seeing the general threat, hence recent statements.

I have been in Iran on business. They call the US Great Satan and the UK the Little Satan. It is a horrible regime and they are one of the greatest enemies of us all in the UK. Now is the time for regime change and for the people of Iran to be strong and ensure freedom including for women to wear what they like to prevail in their land so that all those including those who want to return and left in about 1979 can go back too to build a new and better Iran which would no longer be a pariah state. for far too long we are tolerated Iran funding terrorism from Hamas to the terrorists in Yemen.

Fully agree with this.

but guess what? Keir Starmer has shown no backbone whatsoever and we will have Putin at one end, tens of millions of refugees at the other, and PM Farage in the middle.
What a shitshow. European needs to wake the hell up and unite.

Dresden. Pearl Harbour. Hiroshima.
thats what started the end of WW2 and the destruction of a terror regime.

Iran funded Hamas and therefore their actions have led directly to the situation in Gaza.
Their hatred of Israel started decades ago.

And once more, Israel is not committing genocide. Though that’s what Iran wants to inflict on Israel.

Maybe not using the word genocide is offensive to those suffering in Gaza.

@alikelylass It's not official state doctrine though. It's rhetoric from some Iranian leaders, and a lot of it has been misintepreted and misquoted. I'm not denying the hatred exists, but even hateful rhetoric doesn't amount to a threat that would justify an attack on a sovereign state. It comes down to the old 'weapons of mass destruction' thing that was used as the basis of the Iraq war (and which was later proven to never have existed, in that case). Iran's nuclear programme is Israel's 'excuse' for this attack (even though Israel itself has always been opaque about its own nuclear programme, and refused to sign up to the NPF Framework).

I wish people would stop throwing the word "genocide" around. It is offensive to Jewish people.

And your emotive half-baked opinions don't help the discussion.

After seeing what Netenyahu has done in Gaza, do you wonder why Israel is so hated? Why have they done before the social media came about that we don’t know of?
However much I hate the theocracy in Iran, I don’t trust a word that comes out of the mouth of this Israeli regime. They are war criminals committing genocide right in front of our eyes.

Are you serious?

Iran is committed to the annihilation of the State of Israel and has said so. That seems reason enough to me.

from "Politico" -

"According to official state doctrine, the primary goal of the mullahs in Tehran is the annihilation of the State of Israel. Ayatollah Khamenei has described Israel as a “cancerous tumor.” And clocks in the streets of Tehran celebrate countdowns to the “destruction of Israel.”

I fully agree with this.
Yet another scenario that will work out well for all the oligarchs that are supporting Trump and Netenyahu in this!

I imagine lots of people will be killed and if Israel take out the leadership, he will be replaced by another autocrat. How do you imagine it going? A liberal arrives on a unicorn and brings in a democracy?

@literallyarabbit you're welcome 🙄

Please don't talk to me like I haven't understood what has been written, or what happened.

But thank you anyway 😘

I would have thought that was pretty obvious OP. They've being bombed and told to evacuate their homes. They're terrified and hundreds have been killed.

Slow down & actually read posts properly @literallyarabbit. Acknowledging that Isreal underestimated things in a similar way that the American government underestimated intelligence before 9/11 does in no way make them complicit in what happened. It's not the same thing...