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To wonder if quality home cooking for friends is a lost art?

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Jumpupjumphigh · 15/06/2025 20:28

There have been a couple of threads recently about the decline in quality:price ratio when eating out in the UK. To which all I can say is: I thoroughly agree! For some time now I've largely given up on going to restaurants. The mid-priced ones are more and more tending towards microwaved crap that is far below what I can cook at home for a fraction of the price, and I can't afford the posh ones.

But here's the thing: When I first progressed from studenthood to "proper" adulthood, myself and my friends had proper jobs etc, it was common for people to invite each other for dinner parties in their houses, make an effort and cook proper quality food. I still do that. I'm certainly no famous chef, but I research and practise styles of cookery that interest me and people are impressed when I cook for them. It costs some effort and money but it always makes the starting point for a great evening.

But although I have friends that like to meet up for other things, and do invite me to their houses, they almost never host dinner parties. Maybe an informal lunch where everybody brings something "pot luck" style at best. Is this because the art of proper cooking outside of a business relationship has largely died? Or is it just that particular kind of social event that is seen as old fashioned now? Or do I just not have the right friends?

Do other people still get invited to dinner parties?

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3678194b · 16/06/2025 19:52

Haven't done this for a long while now, either as host or guest. Since lockdowns etc it seems people actually visiting homes in person has reduced as well.

SupposesRoses · 16/06/2025 19:25

Bringinguptherear · 16/06/2025 17:39

Are people with young DC (ie not old enough to be left alone without a babysitter) hosting or attending dinner parties?

I think that’s what killed it off for us - all the people I might invite for dinner had children, as did we, snd it became easier to socialise in different ways (invite the whole family over during the day, or DH or I to go out solo with our own friends.

The idea of paying a babysitter £££ to pop round to someone else’s house for the evening has never seemed like a good investment I guess!

How is everyone else managing it or are you simply not doing it when you have children aged 0-14?

Children come too. Obviously we finish earlier than we would without them, but you can still have a nice evening.

genesis92 · 16/06/2025 19:20

I used to love hosting dinner parties for friends but I honestly can’t afford to do it anymore

OutandAboutMum1821 · 16/06/2025 19:13

Bringinguptherear · 16/06/2025 19:10

Family on hand would certainly help - our last night out cost over £100 for the babysitter and honestly I don’t think any friend’s cooking is worth that investment!

Phew yes that’s hugely expensive! 🙀 Yes agree- if I had to pay that I’d prioritise date nights just with my DH/someone’s wedding etc. That makes total sense.

I know one couple who swapped with another couple they knew well for free babysitting, but it does all get more unreliable when the babysitters also have children…as we all know they can go down with illness last min on the day 🙈

Bringinguptherear · 16/06/2025 19:10

OutandAboutMum1821 · 16/06/2025 19:07

Our children stay overnight at my Mum’s, or she babysits here.

We have found though that now they are 6 and 3 we can get away with hosting once they are in bed, either at ours or a friend’s if we all stay. So we hosted a dinner, drinks and board games gathering recently whilst ours were asleep upstairs. They also slept through a dinner, drinks and karaoke party at a friend’s.

Depends on availability of family babysitters/how well children sleep/age of children.

We definitely do it less often, and do more of the getting together over lunch type stuff, but it has been fun to get back to some evening bits too.

Family on hand would certainly help - our last night out cost over £100 for the babysitter and honestly I don’t think any friend’s cooking is worth that investment!

OutandAboutMum1821 · 16/06/2025 19:07

Bringinguptherear · 16/06/2025 17:39

Are people with young DC (ie not old enough to be left alone without a babysitter) hosting or attending dinner parties?

I think that’s what killed it off for us - all the people I might invite for dinner had children, as did we, snd it became easier to socialise in different ways (invite the whole family over during the day, or DH or I to go out solo with our own friends.

The idea of paying a babysitter £££ to pop round to someone else’s house for the evening has never seemed like a good investment I guess!

How is everyone else managing it or are you simply not doing it when you have children aged 0-14?

Our children stay overnight at my Mum’s, or she babysits here.

We have found though that now they are 6 and 3 we can get away with hosting once they are in bed, either at ours or a friend’s if we all stay. So we hosted a dinner, drinks and board games gathering recently whilst ours were asleep upstairs. They also slept through a dinner, drinks and karaoke party at a friend’s.

Depends on availability of family babysitters/how well children sleep/age of children.

We definitely do it less often, and do more of the getting together over lunch type stuff, but it has been fun to get back to some evening bits too.

Bringinguptherear · 16/06/2025 17:39

Are people with young DC (ie not old enough to be left alone without a babysitter) hosting or attending dinner parties?

I think that’s what killed it off for us - all the people I might invite for dinner had children, as did we, snd it became easier to socialise in different ways (invite the whole family over during the day, or DH or I to go out solo with our own friends.

The idea of paying a babysitter £££ to pop round to someone else’s house for the evening has never seemed like a good investment I guess!

How is everyone else managing it or are you simply not doing it when you have children aged 0-14?

CarpetKnees · 16/06/2025 17:24

MinnieMountain · 16/06/2025 10:26

We like hosting but have had enough of friends who don’t reciprocate. Now we just invite the 2 couples who do.

1 couple is coming over next week. I’m enjoying planning what to cook.

I think the point is, you like hosting, and you are "enjoying planning what to cook". Lots of people don't.
If you want to do that, because that is something you enjoy doing, then do so, but you can't expect other people to want to do all that work, just because you like doing it.

MinnieMountain · 16/06/2025 10:26

We like hosting but have had enough of friends who don’t reciprocate. Now we just invite the 2 couples who do.

1 couple is coming over next week. I’m enjoying planning what to cook.

StrawberrySquash · 16/06/2025 10:08

SteamLover · 15/06/2025 23:19

I can’t imagine booking and paying a babysitter just to go round to someone’s house. When I babysat as a teen the parents were often off to dinner parties - usually quite glam as well. I’d much rather go to a restaurant.

Oh yes, I'm terribly lazy about bothering to dress up! When I'm hosting I'm always too busy cooking to get all fancy. And other people don't seem that bothered either.

NW3Lady · 16/06/2025 10:05

My parents used to do this. I didn’t get the impression that my mum enjoyed it much though. All the work used to fall to her and she’d typically spend the day beforehand moaning and swearing about what a tip the house was, how she wished whoever it was wasn’t coming, etc.

I’m afraid I’m not dissimilar and so just don’t invite people as it doesn’t feel like it’s expected anymore. I feel like my cooking isn’t really up to scratch (probably true) and know I’d find the whole thing really stressful.

MageQueen · 16/06/2025 09:56

In my broader circle, we absolutely used to do dinner parties LOADS in our 20s. But as children came along, it got more complicated - babysitters, bed time routines, general exhaustion etc.

As the kids have got older, we've got back into entertaining more often but it does tend to be more informal - Friends (and their kids) come over for supper on a Friday night or a BBQ/Sunday lunch.

I love cooking so even for these more informal events I put effort in to make interesting meals, but the thought of a formal dinner party now leaves me largely cold. The sheer effort of making space, seting tables, navigating around the children etc... it's too much. I don't have time to spend all day pottering in the ktichen preparing for a dinner party, which I would have done in the past. Also, if th echildren are coming along as well, that limits how many people we can host at a time.

Finally, there IS a cost implication. The reality is that a full three course meal for 6 -12 adults (plus, possibly, food for children) is expensive these days. It's hard to justify that.

babystarsandmoon · 16/06/2025 09:52

Nobody even comes over never mind for food post covid.

StrawberrySquash · 16/06/2025 09:42

I love to entertain, but I am getting fed up with endless catering to dietary restrictions. If I am doing a fancy meal then it's nice to do meat or fish; lots of versions of those are special occasion type food. But so often there are one or two people who end up dictating things.

I like cooking and eating veggie food, I just get bored of being restricted to it so often.

But I still do it. It's noticeable that it's the older friends who do a 'proper' meal. The entertaing style is definitely more casual these days. But I do eat plenty of nice meals in other people's houses!

I think the dinner party just evolves. I suspect there were lots of casual dos in the past too, they just aren't as interesting to write about as full Steak Diane affairs.

BestIsWest · 16/06/2025 09:42

I’m also 62 and we used to do this a lot in the 80s and 90s but we stopped, no idea why as I used to enjoy it.

EggnogNoggin · 16/06/2025 09:37

Age and Stage perhaps?

Easier to spend the day cooking when you don't have kids to entertain.

We do still cook for friends jbut it's a bigger juggle than pot luck x

CoffeeCantata · 16/06/2025 09:35

I agree, OP. I don't know how people afford to regularly eat out and have takeaways.

I love having people over for meals - and I'm a good basic cook who takes care over ingredients, but not a Cordon Bleu standard. I'm not Hyacinth Bucket either - it's very informal - we don't have posh china crockery. A delicious home-made lasagne, cottage pie (you might laugh but in my experience people love this in winter), fish pie or Boeuf Bourgignon with potato gratin goes down brilliantly. Yes, the downside is tidying the house, but it's good for me - it spurs me to do a bit more than the usual cursory run over with the vac.

I rarely eat out now, and usually it's someone else's idea. More than half the time I'm disappointed or even resentful about the quality of the food and it's just SO expensive! Plus - I find formality of any kind challenging and I hate the fussing you get in restaurants.

sashh · 16/06/2025 09:13

It's so expensive these days. I have health issues so physically find it difficult / impossible to do.

And those of you saying 'three course', I used to do five as standard.

Now the only person I cook for is my dad when he visits, I do three courses for him because he wouldn't manage 5 and he claims he is 'spoiled' when he visits.

Bikergran · 16/06/2025 08:59

RosesAndHellebores · 15/06/2025 21:15

I'm now thinking about:
Coquille St Jacques
A fillet of beef with a red wine sauce, dauphinois and green veg
Raspberry millfieulle

or
Smoked salmon with horseradish, lime and capers with rye wafers
Leg of lamb with garlic, redcurrant, mint and red wine jus, minted new potatoes and a rocket and watercress salad
Home made profiteroles with cointreau cream and chocolate orange sauce

Roll on retirement

Yes please! Sounds like my 1970s dinner parties. Rarely do anything like that now, as you say, it seems to have fallen out of fashion. Also, as we've got older, a three-course meal is just too much food, I can't manage more than two at most.

EBoo80 · 16/06/2025 08:53

Interesting thread. I much prefer a casual buffet style party with friends - mostly because being served formally at the table feels weird to me. Plus formal dinner parties one person (too often the woman) ends up skivvying in the kitchen and you don’t get to see them much. Whereas we will put a big pan of chilli, rice, salad on the table, everyone fills a bowl and sits around chatting.
also babysitters are so expensive so we always have people round with all their kids, not adult only, so this style works much better.

Funderthighs · 16/06/2025 08:50

We still have friends over for dinner regularly & they all reciprocate. It’s something we’ve always done. We did it round a firepit in the garden when Covid allowed.

Embarrassinglyuseless · 16/06/2025 08:33

OutandAboutMum1821 · 16/06/2025 08:11

Ooh I also miss murder mystery parties! Where you play with 6-8 in between each course. Amazing costumes and accents, the excitement of discovering ‘you are the murderer’! Definitely an art to ensuring your guests are tipsy enough to embrace their part, but not so drunk they have no idea what’s going on 😂

Board games are also good, and more recently karaoke has made a massive comeback in our circles! One couple hosted a fabulous Eurovision party, we left children at GPs, so could stay overnight and were on the karaoke until 1am. Another friend had us stay over, did food first for the kids then proper adult food for us, extended drinks to other friends who came later. Incredibly all the kids slept through us on the karaoke until 2am (they do have a much bigger house than us, we would not get away with this! 😂) At almost 40, these are the best 2 parties I’ve been to in about 10 years 😂

Yes! Karaoke has made a hilarious come back I our crowd too. So much silly fun!

NeedToChangeName · 16/06/2025 08:30

I expect it's less common for a variety of reasons, including -

Food is expensive

People working longer hours

Shift towards prioritising family over socialising as adults only

Casual lifestyles, not wanting to dress up

Casual dining, not 3 courses

Dietary requirements / expectations that the host will cater. Years ago, I did a meal for 8 guests. I served a ready meal to one of them, but now I'd feel pressure to cook a proper meal to accommodate their diet

Many people's social lives shrank during Covid

Focus on "my little family" rather than wider community

People are stressed and less inclined to put themselves out there

Dinner parties for friends are fun for extroverts. Introverts now more confident to say they don't enjoy it

SecondWoman · 16/06/2025 08:22

echt · 16/06/2025 00:23

I think the poster is referring to the prioritising of entertainment space when marketing houses. It's par for the course in Australia, though I haven't noticed any greater levels of actual sociability here than in the UK.

It's aspirational mince; the idea of it, the possibility.

Where I live, I see huge houses with the dining table set out in the front window overlooking the sea, i.e. half the guests don't see the view. Also the windows need to be closed to keep out the howling wind, blinding sun and incessant traffic noise. I make it sound horrible, but a beachfront house is not all it appears. Now I think of it, I can't recall seeing people actually eating or being out on the balcony above a handful of times.

One thing I did notice when I first moved here was the number of outdoor settings. i.e tables, chairs etc. in various places in the garden. Three in one house. To be fair, these were the homes of well-to-do ex-pats. Also, the generally better weather supports such things.
I have seating in three places, all picked up from nature strips.

Well, I was responding to the part of her post that complained about having to ‘sit up straight and say please and thank you’ if eating at at other people’s houses, which suggested that her normal behaviour is different.

Jumpupjumphigh · 16/06/2025 08:20

NerrSnerr · 16/06/2025 07:05

I’m in my 40s and have never hosted or been to a dinner party. When friends have visited or I have visited friends we tend to either have a takeaway, go out or just have something quick and easy to eat while chatting. Surely the host spends most of the time in the kitchen and can’t enjoy the company?

Depends. Open plan kitchen - dining, and food carefully organised so most of the work is done before arrival, works for me.

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