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To think my friend should be teaching her child better stranger awareness

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Clariy · 15/06/2025 12:38

Hi all, so yesterday I was out with my friend and her daughter. Her daughter, her daughter is 5. We were out in London. My friend is comfortable financially and a genuinely lovely compassionate person.

On several occasions when we passed people begging she stopped, gave her daughter a £5/£10 note to give to them. Fair enough if you want to give I suppose. But she also chatted to them and encouraged her daughter to do the same, asked their name, where they were from etc. Not in a prying way but like she genuinely wanted to know about them as a person. I haven’t really seen anyone do this, especially not with people in London.

I asked her about it later, she said that she thinks it’s important to humanise them and she views it as teaching her daughter compassion. I asked about stranger danger and she seemed to brush it off. I then pointed out that some of them probably aren’t really homeless and she replied “For someone to fake hunger they must be starved of something in their soul” she has a tendency to give answers like this. I then pointed out that they may spend it on drugs and she said “my compassion comes with no strings attached”.

I don’t really care if she does this on her own, but something about encouraging a child to do the same feels very odd to me and lacking awareness. Her daughter was also pretty confident doing this and it was clear this isn’t the first time.

I know some of them will be in genuine need, of those who aren’t most are probably harmless but all it takes is one person will intents to take advantage of her, or when her daughter is older, her daughter.

AIBU to think this is quite reckless parenting?

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anothertwix · 15/06/2025 13:11

Sofiewoo · 15/06/2025 13:02

What exactly do you think is so wrong, reckless and “stupid” about it?
My child and I often chat to people at the bus stop, at the park etc. Why are you pretending it’s so weird? I think your insular life is the weird one.

It depends. Generally, there’s nothing wrong with a brief chat with another parent.

But not everyone is up for chatting. It really is as simple as that.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/06/2025 13:10

I like your friend and I think YABU. I talk to people all the time, every where! And I encourage my kids if they are comfortable to do so. I honestly can't see it as danger, chatty assertive kids are less likely to fall victim anyway, and there is massive jump between small talk on a bus and going off in the back of a van.

Dh gives money to homeless people all the time, he says he doesn't care if they need it for drink or drugs, it could stop them robbing someone else or if nothing else it makes them feel like the world isn't against them. I've told my kids if they do want to talk to a homeless person only do it with an adult present, in an open place and always make eye contact and never ask personal questions. If life had dealt us a different card we could be them and vice versa.

Clariy · 15/06/2025 13:09

TheNightSurgeon · 15/06/2025 13:07

Are you sure this isn't a reverse and you just want people to say how lovely and generous you are without actually telling people about your good deeds?

Seems like you're around an awful lot when she's doing this stuff.

She is my closest friend! Our children go to the same school, we went to university together. I’m almost certain she does more I have no idea about, this is just the things I’ve seen over 15 years of friendship.

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TheNightSurgeon · 15/06/2025 13:07

Are you sure this isn't a reverse and you just want people to say how lovely and generous you are without actually telling people about your good deeds?

Seems like you're around an awful lot when she's doing this stuff.

Clariy · 15/06/2025 13:07

CountryQueen · 15/06/2025 13:04

You spend Christmas Day with them every year in their restaurant and happened to be passing as she donated hundreds of books to school?

She sounds patronising and performative. Funny that her “charity” always involves flashing the cash.

Homeless charities specifically ask that you don’t give money to people on the streets, you are not helping. As for using people to “educate” your kids right in front of them. Fucking grim.

No I don’t spend every Christmas with them, but I have in the past and when I ask what they are doing this Christmas she would just say same as last year. I really don’t think she is performative at all.

As for the books, she asked if I could pick up some bits to take to the school as she doesn’t have a car. I asked what they were and she said just some bits, it was the receptionist who told me as I was taking them in that they were books for library she was donating.

I think some people are being very cynical about her compassion here.

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CountryQueen · 15/06/2025 13:06

Sofiewoo · 15/06/2025 13:02

What exactly do you think is so wrong, reckless and “stupid” about it?
My child and I often chat to people at the bus stop, at the park etc. Why are you pretending it’s so weird? I think your insular life is the weird one.

Chatting at the bus stop is completely different to giving your 5 year old a fiver and making her approach a homeless person to buy his life story from him.

Performative and ghoulish at the same time. It’s on a par with the types who pose for photos at Auschwitz

Clariy · 15/06/2025 13:04

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 15/06/2025 12:58

I actually find it a bit patronising. Let’s give money and have permission to interrogate the downtrodden in society. I wouldn’t do it because it’s none of my business to know about anyone’s troubles.
Performance parenting!

Yes that’s a good point. I didn’t really see her interrogating as such, more started casual with a “gosh it’s hot isn’t it” if they seemed receptive to chatting, she’d ask their name, where they were from and if not the uk she’d discuss their country with them, something like oh how beautiful, I visited there in …., which led to natural chat. She never asked how they ended up in that position, she told them about her husbands restaurant, where it is etc and told them if they were ever in the area or just wanted a meal and some company they were welcome to drop in.

I do think she sometimes fails to see she is privileged, the restaurant and flat they live in were bought for them by family. Her daughter’s school fees are paid by grandparents etc.

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CountryQueen · 15/06/2025 13:04

You spend Christmas Day with them every year in their restaurant and happened to be passing as she donated hundreds of books to school?

She sounds patronising and performative. Funny that her “charity” always involves flashing the cash.

Homeless charities specifically ask that you don’t give money to people on the streets, you are not helping. As for using people to “educate” your kids right in front of them. Fucking grim.

Sofiewoo · 15/06/2025 13:02

Comedycook · 15/06/2025 12:57

If you're one of the posters who thinks it's fine... would you ordinarily encourage your dds to start conversations with random men in the street?

What exactly do you think is so wrong, reckless and “stupid” about it?
My child and I often chat to people at the bus stop, at the park etc. Why are you pretending it’s so weird? I think your insular life is the weird one.

GinnyandGeorgia · 15/06/2025 13:01

Clariy · 15/06/2025 12:55

Her husband owns and runs a small restaurant, they very often give meals for free to homeless people around them, even inviting them in to eat, rather than expecting them to eat it on the street. She recently made massive donations to our children’s schools library to update the stock (I mean 100s of books). They do Christmas dinner for those struggling every year, he used to volunteer with the Red Cross before she became a mother.
She doesn’t post any of this on social media (or even had it). The only reason I know about these are because I’ve witnessed it, not because she’s told me.

then fair enough to her, she does care!

anothertwix · 15/06/2025 13:00

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 15/06/2025 12:58

I actually find it a bit patronising. Let’s give money and have permission to interrogate the downtrodden in society. I wouldn’t do it because it’s none of my business to know about anyone’s troubles.
Performance parenting!

I think this is how I feel about it.

Other people aren’t a book, to be discussed and learned from in front of them.

It is absolutely fine to talk about the lady in the wheelchair away from her hearing and explain why some people can’t walk very well (or at all), how they might feel about it, and how we can be helpful and considerate. It would not be fine to talk TO the lady in the wheelchair or about her in her hearing!

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 15/06/2025 12:58

I actually find it a bit patronising. Let’s give money and have permission to interrogate the downtrodden in society. I wouldn’t do it because it’s none of my business to know about anyone’s troubles.
Performance parenting!

Comedycook · 15/06/2025 12:57

If you're one of the posters who thinks it's fine... would you ordinarily encourage your dds to start conversations with random men in the street?

dairydebris · 15/06/2025 12:55

IDroppedRocky · 15/06/2025 12:48

No, it’s not reckless parenting.

Stranger danger is an outdated concept and is not taught anymore, because in 99% of situations, strangers are the ones you need help from. Most children are harmed not by strangers but by people they know.

This.

Your friend sounds great.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/06/2025 12:55

What's reckless about it?

It sounds perfectly fine to me.

Clariy · 15/06/2025 12:55

GinnyandGeorgia · 15/06/2025 12:51

Easy to check if she's performing or more genuine. What volunteering does she actually do to help out if she's that compassionate? What help is she actually giving people?

Charities are struggling with lack of funding, even schools are massively struggling. How many hours a week does she give?

Her husband owns and runs a small restaurant, they very often give meals for free to homeless people around them, even inviting them in to eat, rather than expecting them to eat it on the street. She recently made massive donations to our children’s schools library to update the stock (I mean 100s of books). They do Christmas dinner for those struggling every year, he used to volunteer with the Red Cross before she became a mother.
She doesn’t post any of this on social media (or even had it). The only reason I know about these are because I’ve witnessed it, not because she’s told me.

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anothertwix · 15/06/2025 12:53

I have endless compassion for people on the streets but pretending that many of them aren’t troubled and disturbed is misguided.

I don’t think anything would have happened on this particular occasion; I don’t like it though - not everyone wants to chat and homeless people are included in that, but I do think that it encourages a sort of naivety which isn’t wise.

That said, I think stranger danger isn’t taught much now because we don’t let children out unsupervised until they are considerably older than in my day. I have a four year old and haven’t told him explicitly not to go off with strangers.

KrisAkabusi · 15/06/2025 12:52

Stranger danger is much less of an actual danger than family. Statistically, abuse and violence to children almost always comes from people known to the child. So I do t agree that teaching your child to have a conversation with people is inherently dangerous, no.

GinnyandGeorgia · 15/06/2025 12:52

Stranger danger is an outdated concept

It REALLY is not, what a stupid thing to say.

It doesn't mean you don't warn and prepare kids about non-stranger danger.

Comedycook · 15/06/2025 12:51

If they were men, and I assume some of these people were ....do people really encourage their daughters to strike up conversations with random men in the street.... homeless or not?

GinnyandGeorgia · 15/06/2025 12:51

Easy to check if she's performing or more genuine. What volunteering does she actually do to help out if she's that compassionate? What help is she actually giving people?

Charities are struggling with lack of funding, even schools are massively struggling. How many hours a week does she give?

greencartbluecart · 15/06/2025 12:50

It’s good parenting
jusy because someone is down on their luck or mentally ill it doesn’t make them more of a threat than anyone else

talking to people in a busy space with friends and family around is dangerous how exactly ?

BethDuttonYeHaw · 15/06/2025 12:49

I think it’s excellent parenting.

Comedycook · 15/06/2025 12:49

That's an incredibly stupid thing to do

Yanbu

GingerLiberalFeminist · 15/06/2025 12:49

Wow your friend sounds amazing. Were that we were all so kind and compassionate.

She wasn't encouraging it when she wasn't there. She was teaching her daughter a valuable lesson.

Stranger danger is about when you are alone as pps have said.