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To find it sad that privately educated actors dominate telly/film?

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chulast · 14/06/2025 22:27

6% of the population go to private school yet the majority of successful British screen actors have been privately educated.

I just find it quite bleak really and makes it feel like it's nigh on impossible to make it in that industry without a leg up and connections.

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chulast · 15/06/2025 07:03

Yes I did notice that there were an unnaturally high % or privately educated nominees at the brits this year.

I suppose things like performing arts clubs or music lessons are also completely out of reach for low-income families these days.

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Bobbingtons · 14/06/2025 22:47

It's because it's almost impossible to succeed in the arts unless you have wealth. Most actors, musicians and artists can't develop their careers as they have to work and in the past they could survive on benefits and squat whilst developing their skills and reputation. I was thinking about this whilst watching snow horses and marveling at Gary Oldman. His generation (see also Tim Roth, Leslie Manville, Ray Winstone, etc)
There are a few lucky exceptions, but in the past there were also opportunities and pathways like the youth theatres which led to opportunities from the BBC (play for today, youth broadcasting) and early channel 4.
Music is much the same, for bands especially it's the preserve of the upper middle classes and those with generational wealth as it's also almost impossible to make a living from.

chulast · 14/06/2025 22:44

Mumteedum · 14/06/2025 22:35

Yeah it is not good. Some actors like Christopher Eccleston have spoken about this and there's some good campaigns like arts emergency to support working in the arts for working class people.

It shouldn't be the preserve of the privileged. There's so much talent and diverse voices we should hear. Like Alma's not Normal. Bloody amazing series and actor/writer.

If you need some positive stories on this listen to the episode of Life Changing with Sian Williams, about the guy who became the lead in the Lion King. It was great.

Loved Alma's Not Normal! Sophie Willian is amazing and has obviously overcome so much to get where she is.

Thats good that there are schemes out there with big names behind them. True working class actors and writers just seem so few and far between and the lack of diversity is just so jarring.

I'll listen to that podcast, thank you.

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lilythesheep · 14/06/2025 22:35

Acting is badly paid and insecure for the vast majority of people, so it is not surprising that a high proportion of those who stick at it long enough to become successful have financial support behind them. People who have been privately educated probably have a cushion of family money to fall back on and can afford to have a gamble on a career that probably won’t pay, and can get through the lean years when they won’t be making enough to live on.

The same is true in many other careers in the arts, creative industries, academia, etc.

It’s not as much about the connections as the fact the career route is only possible if you can afford to do it as a hobby for the first part.

Mumteedum · 14/06/2025 22:35

Yeah it is not good. Some actors like Christopher Eccleston have spoken about this and there's some good campaigns like arts emergency to support working in the arts for working class people.

It shouldn't be the preserve of the privileged. There's so much talent and diverse voices we should hear. Like Alma's not Normal. Bloody amazing series and actor/writer.

If you need some positive stories on this listen to the episode of Life Changing with Sian Williams, about the guy who became the lead in the Lion King. It was great.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 14/06/2025 22:33

@Pottedpalm It’s possible to care about, say, the treatment of women in Afghanistan and ponder the domination of the privately educated in British screen acting. Good grief. OP, YANBU. It’s partly about connections and partly about not needing to worry about getting a ‘proper job’ when you are a nobody at first as you have the financial cushion of parents who can fund you while you audition and take bit-parts.

chulast · 14/06/2025 22:32

Do you comment that on every thread that isn't about geopolitical affairs? Must get tiresome.

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Pottedpalm · 14/06/2025 22:28

Sad? Bleak? Look around you. Much, much worse things happening…

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