There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs

For all the 'racist' throwers, I'll leave this here :

• Spanish at one time raised complaints over "Brits drunkenness" when visiting their country. It was an observation. And I think a fair one at that.

By your standards : how dare they ? They should include all nationalities? Are they saying a German has never been drunk over there ? Hermann from my hotel in 2012 puked up in the bar ?

Not all Brits go there getting pissed? What about the ones that go there on walking holidays ? They're not getting drunk !

What about the Spanish ? Spanish have AA groups, so they've got alcoholics?

So , the Spanish are completely and utterly xenophobic for pointing out "Brits abroad drunkenness" - it's clearly not a thing and there's clearly no link is there ? No, they should include all nationalities, including their own in their problem with drunken antics.

See ? Doesn't work does it ? It's called whatabouttery

Long overdue but I don’t have high hopes. It will be dragged out and I don’t anyone will be held accountable.

It will decades to complete. It’ll be a whitewash. And they’ll drag their feet so that anyone who could be held to account and anyone in government now will be long dead and not be able to be held accountable. The whole thing is a joke and everyone getting excited about a ln enquiry is naive.

Thank you for highlighting this, it gets said all the time and girls and women get shut down.

New figures from the police database show that, where ethnicity data was available, 85% of “group-based” child abusers were white in the first three quarters of 2024

The key point that gets overlooked here, @saraclara, is that bit about "where ethnicity data was available", and as has been identified our authorities - often driven by the need not to appear to be racist - haven't reliably collected such data

Wow. Just wow. You think accusations of racism is worse than the mass rape and torture of hundreds of thousands of vulnerable teenage girls and children?

Absolutely so the skin colour and class of the victims shouldn't even feature when we are talking about how appalling it was and still is for them. In excluding victims who are different ethnicities or class we are saying they do not matter.

We still continue to fail them as this is still going on today and so many are still not being listened to or protected. We still have a victim blaming attitude toward victims on the whole and education around this is still focusing on what the victim did wrong. We need a huge shift to make proper changes.

True, but the beauty of having another will be that they can avoid implementing the recommended measures for now because they're "waiting on the report"

Not that there was likely to be any intention of implementing anything, but with Reform on the rampage they may feel the need to be seen doing something

That's not the case, I care about victims of all ethnicities. The stats I've seen (which are hard to find) indicate that a disproportionate number of victims were white and working class, however, under-reporting is a problem across the board but particularly within ethnic minority communities, so there is a possibility that there is more than we know about.

https://news.sky.com/story/child-sex-abuse-and-grooming-gangs-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-from-the-data-13285420

The point is that it doesn't really matter the skin colour of the victims or perpetrators, it matters that there are so many children who weren't listened to or protected. We failed them, as a society.

If this is a real nation-wide inquiry, not just England & Wales again, then hell yes it is needed. The situation in Scotland has been shocking for decades and is still horrifying, and very rarely acknowledged or talked about.

Thank you.

I welcome the discussion and debate. There should be outrage and there should be changes as a result.

Stepping away now for my own well being.

It boils down to their racism. They are happy to blame brown men but cannot cope with blaming white men (or black men either). I agree it is just as bad as denying the muslim gangs it also shows that they will try and silence anyone who speaks about white grooming gangs which is acting in just the same as other communities did when it was their men being accused. The people on here doing just that are as bad as those communities who did it in the past. I am not sorry for saying that. They are supporting rapists.

I completely agree ALL are evil and ALL need to be stopped and held to account and ALL victims need supporting regardless of their own ethnicity or the ethnicity of the perpetrators or the class of the victim etc. There are perpetrators and victims - that is all and that is what needs dealing with.

But these earlier investigations had no teeth and were poorly resourced. Maggie Oliver has made a detailed account of how her investigations were cut short and diminished. We don't know how many children were hurt, we are not clear on how many places this was happening in - because it was prolific in my town that never makes the headlines - and we don't know the lengths of these cover ups.

Well, regardless of your approval, there is to be an inquiry. Thanks to Baroness Casey hopefully this will do justice.

You were vulnerable because you were in the vicinity of perpetrators. That is the only reason kids are vulnerable to this crime. No one removed the perpetrators. If they had then you wouldn't have been vulnerable.

We already know that multiple agencies failed to do their jobs. We have access to police reports which blamed the victims. We have access to reports that social workers blamed the victims. We know care workers blamed the victims. No one has been held to account for multiple failings.

The recommendations following the child exploitation inquiry were not implemented.

It shows you do not care about victims who were not white as there were many who were not and you seem to focus on just the white victims. Also why working class girls as again not all victims were working class but victims of other classes do not matter eh?

So working class brown and black girls were supported were they? Other class victims were supported? Absolutely they were not.

There was a disproportionate number who were care-experienced, but yes, some were vulnerable for other reasons. The important thing is that we shouldn't have so many children in society who can be abused with impunity.

This is why Casey recommended this inquiry, not for shits and giggles but because the state failed across multiple agencies to do their job. And she was clear it should cover institutional cover-ups. This should outrage everyone.

They will still do that so long as the definition of CSE remains as it is. Right now the definition labels the child as a prostitute and so that is one thing that needs to change. That influences all other things and has been created on purpose as a reflection of how people feel about these victims, sadly that it is still seen as their fault.

We'll see. I have never witnessed any such investigation resulting in prosecutions of the establishment.

Not my experience at all. We were a mix of vulnerable due to being in care and vulnerable due to strict parents and being very middle class and plenty in between. The common denominator is vulnerability. I went missing, my parents called the police. They police came out once over the 7 years I was abused. Once. Then they told my parents I am going willingly so nothing they can do. My parents sanctioned and punished. I went out anyway.
Class has nothing to do with it.

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No other inquiry has been able to compel documentation, witnesses, summon public bodies.

This is nothing like other investigations. Alixis Jay was explicit that the full scale of the scandal couldn't be captured until there was a broader, better funded national inquiry.

I don’t care about the race of the perpetrators. It’s the people who turned a blind eye to what was happening because of race that are the problem.

Of course I want justice for all victims. Nothing I have ever said suggests otherwise

That's not the point of the inquiry and that's not going to happen. There have already been investigations, reports and a national inquiry into child exploitation and no arrests were made.