There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs

Could you explain why? I don't agree that the sole reason for the victimisation of these girls was ethnicity. I believe that these are criminal and paedophile gangs who preyed on vulnerable girls with impunity.

Absolutely this x 💯

What the fuck is this comment? Who gives a shit what he says? What does a 62 year old man know about all those girls being traumatised? A 62 year old man from the same country as most of the perpetrators?

Who died and made him king?

Of course this needs a full enquiry

hundreds of children were abused and seriously let down by authorities

this isn’t pandering to racists we need to know excatly why authorities have not dealt with grooming gangs as they should have done.

There won’t be one answer it will be a number of issues and with some gangs culture and the culture of relationships with authorities shall come into that

in the very least we have a duty to not allow this to happen again or do our best for this not to happen again

I agree with everything except the last sentence - of course the ethnicity of the vast majority of the perpetrators is relevant - there are two sides to every equation and to focus only on "the girls side" is an indefensible position - ALL the factors involved in this abhorrent situation must be unpicked and examined. It is the only way to go forwards honestly and usefully.

Has there ever been an inquiry in recent memory whose findings were not known in advance? It will take years, will delay putting in place any measures "whilst we are awaiting the findings of the inquiry" - just a way of kicking the can down the road.

🤔Surely it was "pandering to the racists" that enabled the grooming gangs in question to exist for so long? And that grievous error of judgement will hopefully be part of what this inquiry will pick apart in the heartfelt hope that something on this scale can never ever happen again.

See my answer above.

On those asking for ethnicity to be suppressed, there’s no point in doing an enquiry and leaving out information. The public will just say do it again.

It seems most people aren't aware that an enquiry was held and the ruling Conservative Party failed to act on its recommendations.

Regardless of this new enquiry, resources and training needs to be focused on prosecuting and convicting past and present grooming gangs - and preventing future similar crimes.

Already a lot has been achieved by putting a stop to the police's "They are just a bunch of young slappers" prejudiced mentality that interfered with investigations happening at all.

It’s not just ethnicity. It appears be a small section of Pakistani decent that originated in rural tribal areas. What I have found particularly repulsive is how these gangs seem to be relatives, passing girls between bothers, fathers, uncles and cousins. While grooming gangs and abusers exist in all ethnicities and faiths, I’ve yet to see anything on this scale that involves whole families. Furthermore, the families and communities seem not to be ashamed of this behaviour. At least abusers in British culture are shunned and effectively banished.

You haven't explained why it's helpful.

We should be focusing on why thousands of vulnerable girls were blamed for being victimised. These men preyed on them because they could, they acted with impunity for decades.

The victims were let down by every agency put in place to protect them: the care system, the police and social workers. We need to know what changes are being put in place to make sure this doesn't happen again.

I think that you should be prosecuted if you don't act on child abuse and I think that these agencies need to be overhauled if they're not effectively protecting children. Focusing on the ethnicity of the perpetrators, isn't particularly helpful.

I also think that it provides a head up to thise particular communities need to internally address stuff. ( report suspicious stuff etc)

So that any patterns of behaviour can be identified ,
Another example would be identifying patterns of child abuse from church ministries / sports clubs / scout masters etc.
Ignoring the fact that a number of child abusers in a particular area appear to come from a particular sub group of society is not helpful.

It's an England & Wales inquiry.
The Scottish government would have to call any kind of Scottish version of it themselves I believe.

It's not obvious. We've known for a long time that these particular gangs are of Pakistani descent. Why is it important ie what has been gained from that knowledge?

Instead of being vague eg it's 'complex' or 'all components need to be examined' - can you explain why it's important?

Because it's a complex issue and can hardly be addressed witthout all of its components being thoroughly examined

The price, of course, is causing community discomfort - or more realistically a loss of votes - but if that matters more to our authorities than the protection of children then they should say so

Not that it isn't already very obvious ...

Why is the ethnicity of the perpetrators important?

Absolutely- should have included Windrush!

Completely agree with this and @SquashedMallow

This. The "far right" and other grifters are latching onto this national tragedy because the so-called "decent" ones are determinedly blind to the issue.

If it looks as if certain ethnicities or groups have been particularly targeted that should be investigated.
If it looks as if the perpetrators in particular areas come from particular groups that fact should not be ignored. It should be acknowledged and addressed.
We look at ethnicity in lots of ways - health and education outcomes etc. it’s a way of making sure everyone gets fair treatment ( including white girls in the care system)

Why is ethnicity important?

I want justice for the victims mostly. Whether this will bring that seems to be an open debate. I can see Labour using this for their own political gains, a part of their 'we're going to stop the boats, actually' especially as Reform seem to be growing so popular. But we could deport every foreigner and close the borders and women and children will still be raped. The root of the issue isn't cultural though of course some cultures are more explicit in their misogyny, the root of the problem is patriarchy and that's something that transcends culture entirely. Should the men involved be held accountable, perpetrators and those complicit in covering up/brushing off the abuse? Absolutely. But the problem runs a lot deeper than many believe.

It’s posturing mostly and panicking about loss of support, earlier the request was ‘dog whistle’ apparently. They just lobbed insults and abuse instead.