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Hairgrip · 15/06/2025 19:56

There's an awful lot of Not My Nigel going on in here.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/06/2025 19:39

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:19

Do you think the institutionalised misogyny of the Uk is similar to Afghanistan?

We're talking about girls from the UK being failed by UK institutions.

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 19:09

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 19:05

It is an answer. You asked me to answer and I did.

What you wanted was one or the other. You wanted to control how I answered and when you couldn't then you spat your dummy out.

Yes you are derailing the thread. Lets get back to holding ALL rapists accountable not just those who have brown skin! The very offensive belief that I have of holding ALL rapists to account not just some has derailed the whole thread!

It was you who said you’d choose nowhere. I find that a bit nonsensical. No ‘dummy’ or whatever just not really going anywhere so will leave it there.

TildaSwan · 15/06/2025 19:09

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 19:07

It really is as they do not like people talking about holding all rapists to account so deflect and try and silence then go back to just brown rapists are the issue lines.

So glad we are back on track of talking about holding all rapists to account and calling out the institutions that actively hide white rapist issues within society.

Glad you support that.

If you say so.

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 19:07

TildaSwan · 15/06/2025 19:01

And that's exactly their intention! Divert attention away from the discussion at hand, deflect deflect deflect.

It really is as they do not like people talking about holding all rapists to account so deflect and try and silence then go back to just brown rapists are the issue lines.

So glad we are back on track of talking about holding all rapists to account and calling out the institutions that actively hide white rapist issues within society.

Glad you support that.

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 19:05

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:58

It’s a bit of a non answer to say you don’t want to live anywhere. Given that’s not possible, you do have to be somewhere. Anyway it’s derailing the thread on something that doesn’t make sense.

It is an answer. You asked me to answer and I did.

What you wanted was one or the other. You wanted to control how I answered and when you couldn't then you spat your dummy out.

Yes you are derailing the thread. Lets get back to holding ALL rapists accountable not just those who have brown skin! The very offensive belief that I have of holding ALL rapists to account not just some has derailed the whole thread!

TildaSwan · 15/06/2025 19:01

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:58

It’s a bit of a non answer to say you don’t want to live anywhere. Given that’s not possible, you do have to be somewhere. Anyway it’s derailing the thread on something that doesn’t make sense.

And that's exactly their intention! Divert attention away from the discussion at hand, deflect deflect deflect.

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:58

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:54

I didn;t avoid the question. I answered it. Just not in the way that you liked so you pretended I didn;t answer.

What you mean is you only wanted a choice of two answers - I can either choose a place where men hate women and can freely act on it or a place where men hate women and can act on it to some degree.

You asked which I would prefer. I answered none as I wouldn't prefer any place that hates women.

So while you wanted one of two answers you didn't like me having the freedom of answering with my own choice. You wanted to control my answer to being one of the ones you wanted me to give not one that I had the freedom to give. Ironic eh?

It’s a bit of a non answer to say you don’t want to live anywhere. Given that’s not possible, you do have to be somewhere. Anyway it’s derailing the thread on something that doesn’t make sense.

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:54

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:45

Ok so your answer is nowhere. You do have to live somewhere even if you’d like to avoid the question.

I didn;t avoid the question. I answered it. Just not in the way that you liked so you pretended I didn;t answer.

What you mean is you only wanted a choice of two answers - I can either choose a place where men hate women and can freely act on it or a place where men hate women and can act on it to some degree.

You asked which I would prefer. I answered none as I wouldn't prefer any place that hates women.

So while you wanted one of two answers you didn't like me having the freedom of answering with my own choice. You wanted to control my answer to being one of the ones you wanted me to give not one that I had the freedom to give. Ironic eh?

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:51

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:38

BINGO!! Knew someone would label me mental!

Let bystanders read this reaction. It does speak for itself.

Just like the good old days! Any woman who speaks out about the white men are labelled as mental to silence! Absolutely hilarious.

Ah white men. Cannot be this supercilious about brown or muslim men. How strange that the "white men" countries are so far ahead on child and women protection while the "brown men" countries aren't doing so well?

I am a very deep brown myself, fyi.

Mate I got CSE changed from level 2 (family support) to level 4 (SS and police involvement) - what have you done?
Fuck all! Tried to silence victims of rape it seems!

Ah then again, you don't know me, what volunteer work I have done, how I have supported survivors of sexual crimes. This is not a competition between you and me but your aggression and defensiveness is quite telling.

Grand - so what are you diagnosing me with?

Dared to speak about white men disorder? Yeah you seem to have an issue with me saying that white men in the UK hate women and are not held to account and if anyone does they are labelled as mental which you just proved me correct.

This is not aggression sorry but you need to learn what that means if you think me disagreeing with you and calling you out as a liar is aggression! - you have no idea then clearly that me disputing that you are lying about me and falsely labelling me and acting as an abuser is not aggression.

Of course I will get defensive when you try and pretend I am mental to silence me and then pretend I am doing nothing all the while I have helped many many CSE victims so yes I will defend that.

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:45

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:22

I'd choose neither. There is nowhere on this planet I would choose that would be free of hatred and abuse and rape of women or where those that do are held to account.

If you know of a place that meets this then do tell as right now no such place exists. I mean here we even have a quota on rape cases to actively let rapists walk free they are supported that much!

Ok so your answer is nowhere. You do have to live somewhere even if you’d like to avoid the question.

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:38

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:23

BINGO!! Knew someone would label me mental!

Just like the good old days! Any woman who speaks out about the white men are labelled as mental to silence! Absolutely hilarious.

Mate I got CSE changed from level 2 (family support) to level 4 (SS and police involvement) - what have you done?

Fuck all! Tried to silence victims of rape it seems!

BINGO!! Knew someone would label me mental!

Let bystanders read this reaction. It does speak for itself.

Just like the good old days! Any woman who speaks out about the white men are labelled as mental to silence! Absolutely hilarious.

Ah white men. Cannot be this supercilious about brown or muslim men. How strange that the "white men" countries are so far ahead on child and women protection while the "brown men" countries aren't doing so well?

I am a very deep brown myself, fyi.

Mate I got CSE changed from level 2 (family support) to level 4 (SS and police involvement) - what have you done?
Fuck all! Tried to silence victims of rape it seems!

Ah then again, you don't know me, what volunteer work I have done, how I have supported survivors of sexual crimes. This is not a competition between you and me but your aggression and defensiveness is quite telling.

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:25

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:20

Delusional take. Theorise away while children continue to be raped.

As predicted and showing your misogyny!

There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs
Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:23

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:20

Delusional take. Theorise away while children continue to be raped.

BINGO!! Knew someone would label me mental!

Just like the good old days! Any woman who speaks out about the white men are labelled as mental to silence! Absolutely hilarious.

Mate I got CSE changed from level 2 (family support) to level 4 (SS and police involvement) - what have you done?

Fuck all! Tried to silence victims of rape it seems!

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:22

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:18

That’s not really an answer on where you’d choose.

I'd choose neither. There is nowhere on this planet I would choose that would be free of hatred and abuse and rape of women or where those that do are held to account.

If you know of a place that meets this then do tell as right now no such place exists. I mean here we even have a quota on rape cases to actively let rapists walk free they are supported that much!

iwishihadaname · 15/06/2025 18:21

Why now? What don’t the government what us to see?

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:20

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:15

I could be hated in the UK or hated in Afghanistan. Both are hatred. The way men hate women is the same.

What differs is the level of power men have there not the level of hatred for women.

Men have more power to do as they please there. Our men used to have the same power if the same power was given to men here we'd be in the same situation as we have already experienced that here by men in the past.

So the hatred is still the same the world over, what is different is the amount of power.

Delusional take. Theorise away while children continue to be raped.

miraxxx · 15/06/2025 18:19

MiloMinderbinder925 · 15/06/2025 13:48

The core is institutionalised misogyny.

Do you think the institutionalised misogyny of the Uk is similar to Afghanistan?

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:18

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:15

I could be hated in the UK or hated in Afghanistan. Both are hatred. The way men hate women is the same.

What differs is the level of power men have there not the level of hatred for women.

Men have more power to do as they please there. Our men used to have the same power if the same power was given to men here we'd be in the same situation as we have already experienced that here by men in the past.

So the hatred is still the same the world over, what is different is the amount of power.

That’s not really an answer on where you’d choose.

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:16

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/06/2025 18:08

This is really silly. You’re being completely obtuse

Nope it isn't. It is what people are saying - that there is a lower level of hatred here than there. If so on what scale is the hatred based on?

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:15

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:04

Well that’s what I’m asking you.

But if I put it another way if I were to choose U.K. or Afghanistan for me and dc including a dd that’s an easy one. How about you could you choose easily?

I could be hated in the UK or hated in Afghanistan. Both are hatred. The way men hate women is the same.

What differs is the level of power men have there not the level of hatred for women.

Men have more power to do as they please there. Our men used to have the same power if the same power was given to men here we'd be in the same situation as we have already experienced that here by men in the past.

So the hatred is still the same the world over, what is different is the amount of power.

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/06/2025 18:11

Everanewbie · 15/06/2025 17:55

Not men accused of the systematic grooming and rape of multiple prepubescent girls and sharing them with their uncle, brother, cousin, market stall holder next door and so forth. No doubt that we are no where near where we need to be with prosecutions, but yours if a fucking awful comparison and an attempt to deflect.

Yes - absolutely

OpheliaWasntMad · 15/06/2025 18:08

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 17:59

Hatred of women is still hatred of women. Do you think there are levels of hatred? As in just hate women a little (UK) Hate women ish (Ireland) Hate women a lot (Pakistan) Hate women wholeheartedly (afghanistan)?

What level of hatred is the UK men at - what is the scale starting and ending at and what are the degrees of hatred?

This is really silly. You’re being completely obtuse

EasternStandard · 15/06/2025 18:04

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 17:59

Hatred of women is still hatred of women. Do you think there are levels of hatred? As in just hate women a little (UK) Hate women ish (Ireland) Hate women a lot (Pakistan) Hate women wholeheartedly (afghanistan)?

What level of hatred is the UK men at - what is the scale starting and ending at and what are the degrees of hatred?

Well that’s what I’m asking you.

But if I put it another way if I were to choose U.K. or Afghanistan for me and dc including a dd that’s an easy one. How about you could you choose easily?

Fetaface · 15/06/2025 18:04

Everanewbie · 15/06/2025 17:55

Not men accused of the systematic grooming and rape of multiple prepubescent girls and sharing them with their uncle, brother, cousin, market stall holder next door and so forth. No doubt that we are no where near where we need to be with prosecutions, but yours if a fucking awful comparison and an attempt to deflect.

Yes accused men - which is why we have young girls who have been arrested for false accusation when they report. Kids have been arrested for reporting rapes in the UK so absolutely men accused of this are supported by the system.

Or else why would girls be arrested when the man says "I had sex with a 14 year old" to the police but says it was consensual so she must be lying and then she gets arrested. A 14 year old cannot consent to sex. So of course those men were not supported in being allowed to walk free while the girls were arrested?

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