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TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 20:56

miraxxx · 16/06/2025 20:32

Any link to this interview please? Thank you.

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There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs
ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 20:54

It's remarkable how the same tactics that echo in this thread were the same tools used to subvert the system from working how it should have. The gaslighting that finds it's way even into an every day discussion was as practiced as it was vitriolic.

TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 20:52

miraxxx · 16/06/2025 20:32

Any link to this interview please? Thank you.

Sky news tonight with Sophie Ridge. It's on the sky live feed.

SquashedMallow · 16/06/2025 20:48

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/06/2025 20:45

Let’s be honest - there were quite a few posters on here trying to promote that narrative. Posters were called far right and racist on this thread .
Funnily enough the most prolific poster has gone quiet .

Absolutely 💯

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/06/2025 20:45

EasternStandard · 16/06/2025 18:42

I can’t believe the narrative that closed it all
down. There should be resignations over this.

Let’s be honest - there were quite a few posters on here trying to promote that narrative. Posters were called far right and racist on this thread .
Funnily enough the most prolific poster has gone quiet .

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 20:42

miraxxx · 16/06/2025 20:32

Any link to this interview please? Thank you.

It's in the Times, I think, behind a paywall. If you have a subscription I could link it? I managed to cut this,

*Casey presumed that the government, police, councils and other agencies would “wake up to the fact that these were abused children and do their damnedest to make sure these victims were given as much care, respect and chance at justice as possible”.

That has not happened, for three main reasons.

First, cultural sensitives and concerns. She recalls an official in Rotherham who felt-tipped out the word “Pakistani” on a children’s services file. “I thought, ‘Oh God, the person that did this is well-meaning but utterly stupid’.” But the attitude still lingers around the country*.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/baroness-casey-interview-grooming-gangs-xqbqvtdww

Mumneedstea · 16/06/2025 20:39

Everanewbie · 16/06/2025 19:58

Another thing here that annoys me is the frequent reference to Asian men. It isn’t Japanese, Nepalese, Vietnamese or Sri Lankan men, is it?! Let’s be clear, it’s Pakistani men.

Which is why it is really important to add in religion and the country they or their families came from - that's when you will see a pattern. Men from certain Asian countries and certain religion aren't brought up to respect women 😡

miraxxx · 16/06/2025 20:32

TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 20:28

Casey said in an interview that she often found the word Pakistani tippexed out on documents when working in Rotherham.

Any link to this interview please? Thank you.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 20:30

TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 20:28

Casey said in an interview that she often found the word Pakistani tippexed out on documents when working in Rotherham.

I bet. But if it's that awful lumpy tippex from the 90s then surely at least those can be revealed by a quick rap against a desk and allow it to crumble to dust.

TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 20:28

Everanewbie · 16/06/2025 19:58

Another thing here that annoys me is the frequent reference to Asian men. It isn’t Japanese, Nepalese, Vietnamese or Sri Lankan men, is it?! Let’s be clear, it’s Pakistani men.

Casey said in an interview that she often found the word Pakistani tippexed out on documents when working in Rotherham.

EasternStandard · 16/06/2025 20:21

JudgeJ · 16/06/2025 20:03

It is, but it's true! Not often I find myself silently cheering a Labour MP!

Ex Labour going by that post. Probably why they’ve spoken up.

I think Labour have covered this up by using ‘far right’ etc and it’ll come back to bite.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 20:14

Everanewbie · 16/06/2025 19:58

Another thing here that annoys me is the frequent reference to Asian men. It isn’t Japanese, Nepalese, Vietnamese or Sri Lankan men, is it?! Let’s be clear, it’s Pakistani men.

Yes, and it's this phrasing that has diluted and obscured the scale of this crime in the Male British Pakistani community.

A pp on this thread used the term brown men to further distract this issue. As if the colour of the perpetrators was the driving commonality. And also as a tactic to slur those who were in favour of an inquiry on the thread as racist.

OonaStubbs · 16/06/2025 20:04

Labour richly deserve to take a kicking for this. They will bend over backwards to court the "Asian Vote" for whatever reason and that is one of the reasons for Reform's rise in popularity in the "Red Wall" areas.

JudgeJ · 16/06/2025 20:03

EasternStandard · 16/06/2025 18:26

This is pretty damning

It is, but it's true! Not often I find myself silently cheering a Labour MP!

Everanewbie · 16/06/2025 19:58

Another thing here that annoys me is the frequent reference to Asian men. It isn’t Japanese, Nepalese, Vietnamese or Sri Lankan men, is it?! Let’s be clear, it’s Pakistani men.

GingerBeverage · 16/06/2025 19:58

Should the gross generalisation “Asian” be retired?

ilovebrie8 · 16/06/2025 19:44

Mumneedstea · 16/06/2025 17:59

I'll probably be flamed for saying this, but I think that along with Ethnicity, they should also have details on which countries these men or their parents originally came from and what their religion is. If they had this data, they would definitely see some patterns.

And I say this as an Asian woman!!

This 100% 👍

ilovebrie8 · 16/06/2025 19:39

Maggie Oliver what a woman …why isn’t she on the honours lists…

ilovebrie8 · 16/06/2025 19:38

Not a fan of Cummings but hope he spills the beans …this has been covered up at the highest levels …I was sick when I read some of the transcripts of what happened to those girls!

This cannot be allowed to lie…

Labour avoided it as votes were more important than children’s lives…the perps are still walking about in their towns !

Labour didn’t need Louise Casey to do a review it was clear as day what had been done and by precisely who…people should be shouting it from the roof tops why this was covered up…Starmer and Jess Philips should go as a minimum and now …

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/06/2025 19:32

I'm going to hope that this inquiry will do better than the others, so I'm just going to go with that until there's evidence to the contrary

FWIW I genuinely admire your commitment to hope, @ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera - it's just a shame that the evidence for what happens in such cases is plentifully laid out in Maggie Oliver's excoriating evidence among others

I suppose the best hope is that it might be different this time, but long experience teaches this is a hope unlikely to be realised
As said we can change laws, guidelines, targets and all the rest, but changing the mindsets of those who'd prefer not to know is rather harder

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 19:21

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/06/2025 19:14

Dominic Cummings has talked about how this cover up will be shown to go all the way to Whitehall

Though I regret the source I'd be more surprised if it didn't go all the way to Whitehall, hence why the arse-covering will be moving into top gear even as we type, including - but not limited to - making sure that only "sound" personnel are tasked to deal with this

Doubtless "lessons will be learned" will make an appearance all too soon, but I do hope nobody assumes this means what it appears to say?

You know, I'm going to hope that this inquiry will do better than the others, so I'm just going to go with that until there's evidence to the contrary. I'm not sure what satisfaction that you're getting out of saying there's no point. Perhaps with the degree of public demand for this (76% wanted an inquiry - YouGov) and renewed discourse that will follow there will be more appetite in the media to hold the authorities to account. We'll have to see but I won't be demoralised yet.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/06/2025 19:14

Dominic Cummings has talked about how this cover up will be shown to go all the way to Whitehall

Though I regret the source I'd be more surprised if it didn't go all the way to Whitehall, hence why the arse-covering will be moving into top gear even as we type, including - but not limited to - making sure that only "sound" personnel are tasked to deal with this

Doubtless "lessons will be learned" will make an appearance all too soon, but I do hope nobody assumes this means what it appears to say?

TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 19:04

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 18:19

Or as the former labour MP of Rochdale, Simon Dancuk put it...

"It was a harrowing experience that revealed to me the strength of the Labour Party's willingness to cover up the scandal in order to protect its support among local ethnic minorities.

"In effect, innocent young girls were sacrificed on the altar of political expediency"

Yep, this will be replicated in many areas. As I've posted on MN before, Labour led Oldham council is the same. Labour lost overall control last year, and only then was there a vote for a full national inquiry. One of the MPs for Oldham didn't mention this when she spoke in the HoC today.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr46yxnw1d1o

A teenage girl obscures her face with balled fists pressed against her eyes as she leans against a wall

Oldham Council demands statutory public inquiry into child sex abuse in town

Councillors vote unanimously to call for a public inquiry to shouts of "finally" from the public gallery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr46yxnw1d1o

TheNuthatch · 16/06/2025 18:54

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 18:45

Yeah, I can understand your mistrust. I don't like the guy, I don't think many do but I think if he is right and this did happen, he might be one of a few people with enough of an axe to grind to spill the beans on the whole shit show.

Agree with this. Cummings has also made these claims to Sky, who say the the dept of education and Rotherham council have not responded to a request for comment. He said Rotherham council wanted Michael Gove to appear in court to help with the cover up. Thankfully, he refused. Cummings worked in Whitehall before he started working for Johnson. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 16/06/2025 18:45

OpheliaWasntMad · 16/06/2025 18:42

If this is true ( and I don’t trust Cummings) then not only should heads roll but there should be criminal proceedings if there were attempts to block justice.

Yeah, I can understand your mistrust. I don't like the guy, I don't think many do but I think if he is right and this did happen, he might be one of a few people with enough of an axe to grind to spill the beans on the whole shit show.