There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs

Yet where they had collected data it was shown that Pakistani men where over represented.

And it is funny that they couldn't draw a national conclusion yet people are on here trying to to cite debunked data from a floored study to still try and brush it under the carpet by saying ," akshully most sexual abuse gangs are made up of white men"

It's brave to try and double down on something that has specifically been called out in the actual report especially when it was talking about covering up and using dodgy datasets from hard truths.

I think the victims should decide but of course nobody wants to listen to white girls because they will name their attackers and the name won't be john Smith. There is nothing racist about the truth. Those that try and close down communication be screeching racism normally have a lot to hide.

Yet where they had collected data it was shown that Pakistani men where over represented.

And it is funny that they couldn't draw a national conclusion yet people are on here trying to to cite debunked data from a floored study to still try and brush it under the carpet by saying ," akshully most sexual abuse gangs are made up of white men"

It's brave to try and double down on something that has specifically been called out in the actual report especially when it was talking about covering up and using dodgy datasets from hard truths.

It was interesting in the report where they said that it is not possible to draw any conclusions relating to ethnicity because of the missing data.

Pointless. Pandering to the racists.

Nazir Afsal said it will retraumatise survivors.

From the Casey report

"Media reporting at the time the Home Office paper was published included headlines the "most child sexual abuse gangs made up of white men" and the report continues to be referred to in the media as proof that the has claim has been 'debunked'"

I know some people are just going of the same script they have always done, no doubt waiting for the next narrative to use, but if you are going to try and gotcha other users, it is probably best to have actually read the actual report.

One can whatabout all over the threads until heads are spinning, but the poll is not lying, 92% in favour. And MN is a progressive place.

It is high time to talk openly about cultural differences in the UK (which is not racism, it's about culture, not colour), about the neglect of the white (ex)working classes, about the sheer contempt for these children, who have been let down by everyone, time for some people to admit these inconvenient truths do exist and, hopefully, get their head around basic statistics.

Exactly. Some uncomfortable truths will emerge from this.

I see her comment made you uncomfortable.

We know that most people who are stopped and searched are white, because this is a white majority country.
But we know that black men are disproportionately more likely to be stopped and searched.
Do you think focusing on ethnicity there was pointless @Fetaface ?Because following your logic, we should be focusing on white men being the victims of heavy handed policing, since white men make up the majority of all people who are stopped and searched

Jess Phillips was on Newsnight last night, apparently feeling like she's done all the right things.

Pointless. Pandering to the racists.

Nazir Afsal said it will retraumatise survivors.

We know that most people who are stopped and searched are white, because this is a white majority country.
But we know that black men are disproportionately more likely to be stopped and searched.
Do you think focusing on ethnicity there was pointless @Fetaface ?Because following your logic, we should be focusing on white men being the victims of heavy handed policing, since white men make up the majority of all people who are stopped and searched

I think that’s why Labour and others have been trying very hard not to have an enquiry, with use of far right etc

The difference @saraclara is that these vile creatures were prosecuted. The victims were believed. The communities weren’t shielding the perpetrators. The police weren’t afraid to prosecute them to the full extent of the law. The victims weren’t selected for their race. And nobody was dissuaded from talking about it for the sake of community cohesion.

The fact that there are white grooming gangs does not take away the seriousness of the cover ups and failure to tackle Pakistani rape gangs. Pretending that concerns and calls for further enquiries are based on racism just doesn’t cut it anymore. We know too much now.

Did you miss the bit where they said from a majority white country, there is a disproportionate percentage of Pakistani men committing these crimes? Selective data you're choosing.

Jess Phillips was on Newsnight last night, apparently feeling like she's done all the right things.

Did you miss the bit where they said from a majority white country, there is a disproportionate percentage of Pakistani men committing these crimes? Selective data you're choosing.

Exactly. Some uncomfortable truths will emerge from this.

Did you miss the bit where they said from a majority white country, there is a disproportionate percentage of Pakistani men committing these crimes? Selective data you're choosing.

Exactly. Some uncomfortable truths will emerge from this.

@Fetaface there have been accusations of racism in this thread - both overt and implied- every time the race of the perpetrators was mentioned. This has been a major reason why the authorities did not tackle the issue properly.
You deployed a different tactic of whataboutery and deflection .