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To be furious about inevitable menopause

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Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:07

I don't have it yet, 43, feel on top of the flipping world professionally and emotionally (that hollow dragging anxiety of youth is all gone).

But I know that any bloody moment now the brain fog and anxiety and insomnia and prolapse will come for me and ruin it.

I'm so damn angry.

Also, does anyone know if I could just start taking the contraceptive pill now and maybe stay on it for a decade and come out the other side without any of the symptoms?

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DeSoleil · 14/06/2025 17:56

Neither my grandmother, mother, sisters, sister in law or myself nor old friends have ever suffered with brain fog, anxiety, insomnia, prolapse or any other ailments that some MAY suffer during g the menopause.

Many of us have no problems, symptoms oe ailments whatsoever.

I hope you’re one of us.

ObtuseMoose · 14/06/2025 17:56

I'm almost 56 and happy to report that neither by brain or pelvic organs have fallen out.

Sahara123 · 14/06/2025 17:54

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:46

I understand most people end up with some prolapse eventually :(

What ! I know literally not one women in a school full of women who have had this problem!

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:53

Butchyrestingface · 14/06/2025 17:52

First I've heard of it! Just googled and it suggested up to one third of women will experience prolapse at some point in their lifetime. Which is by no means "most". It also states only 10-20% will actually require medical intervention. So I don't think you need to be stocking up on incontinence pads quite yet unless you are actually experiencing symptoms. Smile

I'm slightly older than you and don't have kids either. Still menstruating regularly. Haven't exactly LOVED menstruating so not devastated at the thought of it ending. However, I'm glad I had functioning ovaries so I wasn't deprived of the choice to have or not have children. Would you really have preferred to have no choice on the matter?

I never wanted children and I can't relate to the idea of wanting to so I would have swapped the experience of female hormones for the ability to have kids for sure.

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AddictedToAnimals · 14/06/2025 17:52

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:49

Gaaaaaaaaaa

I’m not sure what that means.

Butchyrestingface · 14/06/2025 17:52

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:46

I understand most people end up with some prolapse eventually :(

First I've heard of it! Just googled and it suggested up to one third of women will experience prolapse at some point in their lifetime. Which is by no means "most". It also states only 10-20% will actually require medical intervention. So I don't think you need to be stocking up on incontinence pads quite yet unless you are actually experiencing symptoms. Smile

I'm slightly older than you and don't have kids either. Still menstruating regularly. Haven't exactly LOVED menstruating so not devastated at the thought of it ending. However, I'm glad I had functioning ovaries so I wasn't deprived of the choice to have or not have children. Would you really have preferred to have no choice on the matter?

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:51

GreyCarpet · 14/06/2025 17:50

I've literally never heard of any woman ending up with a prolapse after menopause and I know a fair few women who are quite happy to discuss menopause symptoms at length.

I haven't even started yet - my periods are like clockwork. More's the pity...

I see the NHS says only 40%

https://mft.nhs.uk/2024/01/12/thousands-of-women-could-benefit-from-self-management-of-pelvic-organ-prolapse-research-in-manchester/

I had read it was about 80% by the time you get to old age but can't find the source now

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springbl0ssoms · 14/06/2025 17:51

"I'm still entitled to be intellectually angry that my brain and professional standing and peaceful relationships will all be taken away from me for no reason."

What the hell?! Where are you getting this shit? I don't know any women who have lost these things as a result of menopause.

GreyCarpet · 14/06/2025 17:50

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:46

I understand most people end up with some prolapse eventually :(

I've literally never heard of any woman ending up with a prolapse after menopause and I know a fair few women who are quite happy to discuss menopause symptoms at length.

I haven't even started yet - my periods are like clockwork. More's the pity...

Sahara123 · 14/06/2025 17:50

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 14/06/2025 17:19

YABVU to waste your time being angry in advance about symptoms you may not even get.

This. You are catastrophising , plenty of women I know get little or no symptoms at all !
I had a. Mirena coil for 10-15 years, no periods, went through the menopause with no symptoms at all .

PerryFerryQue · 14/06/2025 17:49

You need to step away from MN. I'm amazed and depressed on a daily basis reading about the catastrophic horrors of menopause on here (ditto the horrors of childbirth and the 4th trimester, but that's for another thread). It's a different planet to the one I and my friends live on.

Menopause is one of the best things that's ever happened to me - no more periods, no more PMS, no more heavy, sore boobs. Another bonus is I no longer take any crap, particularly from men. and My symptoms weren't severe - a period of hot flushes and some mild insomnia but nothing dramatic. Never any memory/anxiety issues. I'm on HRT patches and feel great in my 60s! I have many friends in their 60s and I can't think of one who had a rough time of it.

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:49

AddictedToAnimals · 14/06/2025 17:47

Because you’re a woman and going through menopause is part of the life for us regardless of whether we’ve had children or not. You say you’ve never been less angry but you do sound angry. One of my first symptoms, not that I realised it at the time, was being irrational. so this could be a symptom for you without you realising. I’m generally fine although do get a bit of brain fog and I feel very hot most of the time which is annoying. Many women get through menopause without too many issues so hopefully you’ll be one of those. See your GP if you want to talk things through, I’d definitely mention what you’ve posted here as I do think your feelings could be part of it. Good luck.

Gaaaaaaaaaa

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Ponderingwindow · 14/06/2025 17:48

Where have you heard that most women end up with prolapse?

BIossomtoes · 14/06/2025 17:47

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:46

I understand most people end up with some prolapse eventually :(

No prolapse here, despite two pregnancies. Whoever told you that was wrong.

AddictedToAnimals · 14/06/2025 17:47

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:22

Oh and this is another thing. Every single emotion, physical sensation or bloody food preference is now met with "oh that will be peri!"

I'm less angry than I've ever been in my life. I'm still entitled to be intellectually angry that my brain and professional standing and peaceful relationships will all be taken away from me for no reason. I didn't have kids cos I don't like them why do I have to do this ovary related nonsense!

Because you’re a woman and going through menopause is part of the life for us regardless of whether we’ve had children or not. You say you’ve never been less angry but you do sound angry. One of my first symptoms, not that I realised it at the time, was being irrational. so this could be a symptom for you without you realising. I’m generally fine although do get a bit of brain fog and I feel very hot most of the time which is annoying. Many women get through menopause without too many issues so hopefully you’ll be one of those. See your GP if you want to talk things through, I’d definitely mention what you’ve posted here as I do think your feelings could be part of it. Good luck.

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:46

Butchyrestingface · 14/06/2025 17:44

I'm less angry than I've ever been in my life. I'm still entitled to be intellectually angry that my brain and professional standing and peaceful relationships will all be taken away from me for no reason. I didn't have kids cos I don't like them why do I have to do this ovary related nonsense!

What makes you so certain all of that is going to happen? And a prolapse - are you experiencing related issues currently?

I understand most people end up with some prolapse eventually :(

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GreyCarpet · 14/06/2025 17:46

Seriously, OP, it's really not worth worrying about.

Some women sail through it and others don't.

A bit like periods, pregnancy, childbirth, life in general...

It's going to happen whether you like it or not. Ypu can't scare it off by being angry at it 😉

GinnyandGeorgia · 14/06/2025 17:45

You're all right no point worrying in advance

you can at least inform yourself about the best physical way to deal with it, and start being active in that way now, won't hurt.

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:44

Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 17:43

So rage is a menopause symptom.

Having said that, I went through menopause at 46. I did have rage, did have night sweats and hot flushes but it wasn't debilitating. I now (53) take vaginal oestrogen so all those symptoms gone and I feel AMAZING and so much better than I ever did when I was on the monthly hormone rollercoaster. My moods have really stabilised, as has my relationship with food. Not everyone has a shit time through menopause. I feel powerful, amazing, I look good, I am fitter and slimmer than I have ever been and I know my own mind like never before. Don't write yourself off before you need to. AND if you have symptoms, they are often alleviated if you get the HRT right. (Not for all people, for sure, but for most people I know IRL).

It's not literal rage I hope this is apparent 🤣

Interesting re the vaginal oestrogen - is that the only form of hrt you take?

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Miyagi99 · 14/06/2025 17:44

I’ve got the implant (nearing 50 now) and have had no period or PMT for 15 years, hope the good times continue through menopause!

GinnyandGeorgia · 14/06/2025 17:44

Every single emotion, physical sensation or bloody food preference is now met with "oh that will be peri

I find it infuriating, but it's mainly coming from women about themselves, as an excuse more than anything else.

We are our worst enemies: we're aging, so we must all be fat, useless, sleep deprived, brain dead. Please.

You just have to invest in yourself to avoid most of the symptoms, it's not that horrendous. Would all these women start thinking about exercising, losing weight and so on without the threat of menopause? Maybe not, so maybe it's a good thing.

As long as I keep a full on sex life, I am happy - and speaking with various people, their own experience and medical knowledge, sex is still very much on 😂

Butchyrestingface · 14/06/2025 17:44

I'm less angry than I've ever been in my life. I'm still entitled to be intellectually angry that my brain and professional standing and peaceful relationships will all be taken away from me for no reason. I didn't have kids cos I don't like them why do I have to do this ovary related nonsense!

What makes you so certain all of that is going to happen? And a prolapse - are you experiencing related issues currently?

Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 17:43

So rage is a menopause symptom.

Having said that, I went through menopause at 46. I did have rage, did have night sweats and hot flushes but it wasn't debilitating. I now (53) take vaginal oestrogen so all those symptoms gone and I feel AMAZING and so much better than I ever did when I was on the monthly hormone rollercoaster. My moods have really stabilised, as has my relationship with food. Not everyone has a shit time through menopause. I feel powerful, amazing, I look good, I am fitter and slimmer than I have ever been and I know my own mind like never before. Don't write yourself off before you need to. AND if you have symptoms, they are often alleviated if you get the HRT right. (Not for all people, for sure, but for most people I know IRL).

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:42

One of the things that makes me anxious is that my GP is turboshit (they text regularly to say "we are short on staff please only contact us in an emergency" and it's like how would we know the difference?) so I know if I ask for help I'm likely to have to pay for it. Ughhh. You're all right no point worrying in advance.

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GreyCarpet · 14/06/2025 17:40

saltinesandcoffeecups · 14/06/2025 17:26

Clearly that can’t be the case and your life must be in a shambles.

As an aside your username made me lol given the current topic 🤣

Ha I did think that about my username myself when I posted! 🙈

It's completely unrelated though and the only grey carpet is in my bedroom! 😁