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To be furious about inevitable menopause

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Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:07

I don't have it yet, 43, feel on top of the flipping world professionally and emotionally (that hollow dragging anxiety of youth is all gone).

But I know that any bloody moment now the brain fog and anxiety and insomnia and prolapse will come for me and ruin it.

I'm so damn angry.

Also, does anyone know if I could just start taking the contraceptive pill now and maybe stay on it for a decade and come out the other side without any of the symptoms?

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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 15/06/2025 07:26

This is hopeful but I also sense that hormones are at the root of a lot of misery in this world. I still remember finding that usborne body book as a child and being aghast and no adult being particularly sympathetic but I say it now over 30 years later what the fuck we are supposed to just accept this shit?????

Yeah, damn those pesky hormones for regulating all our important bodily functions so that we actually work as an organism Hmm

VoltaireMittyDream · 14/06/2025 23:28

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:09

This is hopeful but I also sense that hormones are at the root of a lot of misery in this world. I still remember finding that usborne body book as a child and being aghast and no adult being particularly sympathetic but I say it now over 30 years later what the fuck we are supposed to just accept this shit?????

If you think hormones are unfair, just wait till you learn about mortality.

Swimminginthedeepbluesky · 14/06/2025 22:05

ExtraOnions · 14/06/2025 17:19

I’m delighted to not have periods every month anymore. I have Endometriosis, and trust me, the Menopause has been a cake-walk compared to heavy bleeding, flooding, pain so bad I thought I would pass out.. as well as the horrible effect on my bowel.

HRT … I feel fine

Agree I feel in the prime of my life!

No periods, anaemia, flooding and exhaustion, pregnancy risk
No giving a shit what men think of me
Whooooooop!!

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:50

notprincehamlet · 14/06/2025 21:41

The mechanically recovered meat industry must have thought all their Christmasses had come at once when some marketing genius came up with the idea for collagen supplements - there's gold in them there eyelids and arseholes!

Edited

There's the algae stuff too tbf! I tried it once and it made my herpes flair up :(

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notprincehamlet · 14/06/2025 21:41

The mechanically recovered meat industry must have thought all their Christmasses had come at once when some marketing genius came up with the idea for collagen supplements - there's gold in them there eyelids and arseholes!

DramaAlpaca · 14/06/2025 21:40

Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 21:23

I have found the opposite. I am taken way more seriously now than I was as a younger woman and I’ve had a senior role since my 30s.

Same. I'm definitely taken more seriously at work now than I was when I was younger. I'm respected, my opinion is valued and I have much more confidence than I did in my 30s.

Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 21:23

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:10

It was totally depressing by my reading. And people definitely on the whole do not take post menopausal women seriously at work.

I have found the opposite. I am taken way more seriously now than I was as a younger woman and I’ve had a senior role since my 30s.

BIossomtoes · 14/06/2025 21:15

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:10

It was totally depressing by my reading. And people definitely on the whole do not take post menopausal women seriously at work.

Trust me, they do. I was taken very seriously so were my contemporaries, to the point where I heard one of them described as scary. There are a lot of take no shit women in my former industry.

Holluschickie · 14/06/2025 21:13

MN is truly batshit these days. I remember this thread from last time.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 14/06/2025 21:12

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:10

It was totally depressing by my reading. And people definitely on the whole do not take post menopausal women seriously at work.

The most powerful women in every industry other than (perhaps) entertainment are post menopausal.

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:10

Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 21:10

I didn't read it like that. She was offered a shag (from fleabag). She didn't want a shag. She sometimes missed being flirted with so much. The upside of that is that people take you seriously (especially at work). I didn't read it as dismissive at all.

It was totally depressing by my reading. And people definitely on the whole do not take post menopausal women seriously at work.

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Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:10

Being alive SUCKS how did this happen?

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Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 21:10

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:04

Because it was quite dismissive of older women (no possibility of getting a shag etc)

I didn't read it like that. She was offered a shag (from fleabag). She didn't want a shag. She sometimes missed being flirted with so much. The upside of that is that people take you seriously (especially at work). I didn't read it as dismissive at all.

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:09

JosephGeorge · 14/06/2025 21:07

I am the other side of it. Never got brain fog, no prolapses, no violent rages or depression, just lots of hot flushes. People need to stop treating the menopause as a terrible, disabling condition that every woman will suffer.

This is hopeful but I also sense that hormones are at the root of a lot of misery in this world. I still remember finding that usborne body book as a child and being aghast and no adult being particularly sympathetic but I say it now over 30 years later what the fuck we are supposed to just accept this shit?????

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JosephGeorge · 14/06/2025 21:07

I am the other side of it. Never got brain fog, no prolapses, no violent rages or depression, just lots of hot flushes. People need to stop treating the menopause as a terrible, disabling condition that every woman will suffer.

notprincehamlet · 14/06/2025 21:06

Direct your anger at the menopause industry where it belongs, op. If the meno ghouls didn't put the fear of god up you, how would they ever get you to buy all their menobrand supplements and associated shit? I wish Davina McCall and her ilk would piss off.

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 21:04

EmeraldRoulette · 14/06/2025 20:27

@Fragmentedbrain wait, you're angry about that scene and you were six years ago? Why?!

Because it was quite dismissive of older women (no possibility of getting a shag etc)

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EmeraldRoulette · 14/06/2025 20:32

@Thaawtsom honestly I'm wondering if there's anything positive left that we are allowed to say.

I moved a couple of years ago. So that's involved meeting a lot of new people who don't know about my poor health history. I'm almost starting to wonder if I should share it because I think people are irritated when they meet someone who they perceive to have zero health problems.

Younger folk aren't too bad - which may be a factor in the age of my last boyfriend LOL -but if younger women are just storing up rage in advance of menopause, then there's no hope.

Or maybe I've just fallen for one person who fancies making trouble today.

I'm going somewhere sane now. MN is batshit today.

WheresthesaladTheresthesalad · 14/06/2025 20:30

My menopause started at 23 then was full-on at age 27 due to hysterectomy and oopherectomy for endometriosis and adenomyosis.
I've not given birth. It was tough in my 20s and 30s but easier in my 40s. Maybe I'm just used to living with it, I don't know, it's been so long now it's part of my life.

I take Livial as a form of HRT and more recently vaginal oestrogen which has been a real transformation for me with alleviating vag and bladder symptoms. Has reduced my UTIs.

Doing ok career-wise.
Would definitely recommend the vaginal oestrogen.

I hear you OP. 💐

Thaawtsom · 14/06/2025 20:29

Also loved that scene in Fleabag because it was the first time I'd heard anyone celebrating menopause, which has been my experience of it. It's fucking amazing. (Which is something you don't normally say because clearly many people really struggle with awful symptoms -- but if you have had a shitty time with your periods for whatever reason it can be a blessed releif).

EmeraldRoulette · 14/06/2025 20:27

@Fragmentedbrain wait, you're angry about that scene and you were six years ago? Why?!

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 20:20

EmeraldRoulette · 14/06/2025 19:57

what happened to the world?

that scene with Kristin Scott Thomas in Fleabag was in 2019. I know that 2019 is a long long time ago. But even in 2022, the writers would have chosen not to put that in.

how can we have reached a stage where there's so much coverage about something that might not be an issue, that younger women are freaking out about it?

It's one thing to be aware of potential health problems but assuming one that's not inevitable is bizarre.

I've said it before on here and people get angry at the mere mention of things maybe being fine. I've spent half my life being treated for medical things. I know what happen but why would I ruin a state of happiness - which you @Fragmentedbrain seem to have - by assuming a future problem? It's bonkers.

@Fragmentedbrain still wonder if it's the internet - in which case, time to touch grass. Seriously. Chances are it's lovely where you are. I'm only typing this because it's 17 mins till my bus!

Omg I have always hated fleabag but that scene within it was like the top turd in the shitty experience! You are right it wouldn't happen now (I hope)

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mustytrusty · 14/06/2025 20:15

Don't be taken in by the current media focus on menopause / perimenopause. It's massively overhyped. Women have been doing this forever without Davina McCall's input. Don't overthink it and see what happens. For me it's been the best and most liberating period of my life. The whole 'everything is shit' narrative is not true for everyone and I'd wager that it's not even true for the majority of people. It's hype from people wanting to sell books, supplements, therapies blah blah. Just live through it and take it as it comes, as your probably did through puberty and every other part of your life.

Holluschickie · 14/06/2025 20:13

I am furious that I am more likely to get diabetes than a white woman because of my shitty genetic inheritance.

user1521373495 · 14/06/2025 20:07

Nevertrustacop · 14/06/2025 17:14

Furious about getting old? That sounds good for your health. And the menopause is the cessation of menstruation, it doesn't mean you are ill or disabled any more than starting your periods did. You managed that when you were about 12, so I think you will be okay with this.

Don't make a statement about something you obviously no nothing about, the menopause can make you very ill, it's debilitating and disabling for many of us that suffer severely.