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To be furious about inevitable menopause

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Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:07

I don't have it yet, 43, feel on top of the flipping world professionally and emotionally (that hollow dragging anxiety of youth is all gone).

But I know that any bloody moment now the brain fog and anxiety and insomnia and prolapse will come for me and ruin it.

I'm so damn angry.

Also, does anyone know if I could just start taking the contraceptive pill now and maybe stay on it for a decade and come out the other side without any of the symptoms?

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ForZanyAquaViewer · 16/06/2025 09:32

Holluschickie · 15/06/2025 23:25

This is exactly how the previous thread by OP ended, as I remember

Snide predictions of doom, vaginas disintegrating into dust and derision of older people, happy people and happy older people!

Ah, there’s been more? This doesn’t surprise me.

BIossomtoes · 16/06/2025 09:11

Fragmentedbrain · 16/06/2025 08:05

I'm sorry to tell you but the only people who don't have a horrible time at the end are the ones who avoid the very end. Our bodies and minds decaying while we're still in there is not a fun time. You're entitled to feel differently - but it's not a sign of your amazing well adjusted sanity (I'd say it's coping mechanism delusion if I were as rude as your chose to be, but I'm not).

My dad was 99 when he died. He didn’t have a horrible time at the end. He was playing golf until six months before, socialising at his golf club. He had his last holiday when he was 98. I really think you need some counselling @Fragmentedbrain. This catastrophising isn’t healthy.

MadWorldSendHelp · 16/06/2025 09:04

Don’t waste your time getting angry or worrying about it. My periods only started to get irregular at 52/53, and I had a period 4 months ago. No other symptoms, except perhaps slightly drier than normal feeling hands but that started during Covid with using hand sanitiser. I’ve got loads of energy, run my own business which needs focus, detailed plans and ideas and I’ve had no brain fog. I work out a lot, im strong and fit and am a healthy weight. I can lift significantly more weight training now than I could in my twenties. I haven’t piled on the pounds or grown a pot belly. I had a bone density test for dental treatment recently too and my dentist said she wished all her patients had my bone health as it made the implant I needed straight forward.

Thing is, I had a few months when I was about 45 and going through a difficult stressful time at work when I started to get depressed and anxious and I was fixated then on worrying about aging and the menopause.If I knew then how the next 10 years would actually go I wouldn’t have wasted my time worrying and being down about it.

Holluschickie · 16/06/2025 08:15

My mum is 80, and still bizarrely enjoying life. Travelling, gardening, meeting friends and family. The deluded prolapsed fool!

You are free to be miserable for the next 40 years anticipating doom, or 'avoid the end'. It's your prerogative. But then why do you need this thread?

Fragmentedbrain · 16/06/2025 08:05

ForZanyAquaViewer · 15/06/2025 23:22

Most of us don’t want to live forever. That’s very different from I'm pleased about this. I don't understand people who enjoy being alive at all. The end is something to look forward to. The undignified slog until then less so.

And, as commenters are a wide variety of ages, for some of us old age isn’t ’the future’. It’s right now. And, much like being post-menopausal, it doesn’t ’suck hard’.

The sentiments you are expressing are extreme and irrational. It seems highly unlikely that you are ‘super well’.

I'm sorry to tell you but the only people who don't have a horrible time at the end are the ones who avoid the very end. Our bodies and minds decaying while we're still in there is not a fun time. You're entitled to feel differently - but it's not a sign of your amazing well adjusted sanity (I'd say it's coping mechanism delusion if I were as rude as your chose to be, but I'm not).

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Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 16/06/2025 07:33

Many of us have a very good idea of what the future might hold, having cared for elderly relatives. But also I know that it varies tremendously, often depending on how much care you take of yourself. Now in my sixties I am having the time of my life. I'm happily married,I do weights at the gym, take courses, have lovely holidays, see my family regularly and have a great social life. My parents were the same and they lived to be ninety. I don't know anyone who's had a prolapse! Where did that come from?
Honestly you found as if you are over anxious and dwelling on things that might never happen. Growing old may obviously not "for the faint hearted" as my mother in law used to say, but there are a lot of wonderful things to come still.

Holluschickie · 15/06/2025 23:25

This is exactly how the previous thread by OP ended, as I remember

Snide predictions of doom, vaginas disintegrating into dust and derision of older people, happy people and happy older people!

ForZanyAquaViewer · 15/06/2025 23:22

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 22:33

I am super well thanks I think it's ridiculous you can't imagine that not everyone wants to live forever no matter how decrepit the body they're sitting in. I think maybe some people have very little imagination about what the future holds. Sure menopause may well be overstated now thanks to Davina et al but old age is gonna suck hard.

Most of us don’t want to live forever. That’s very different from I'm pleased about this. I don't understand people who enjoy being alive at all. The end is something to look forward to. The undignified slog until then less so.

And, as commenters are a wide variety of ages, for some of us old age isn’t ’the future’. It’s right now. And, much like being post-menopausal, it doesn’t ’suck hard’.

The sentiments you are expressing are extreme and irrational. It seems highly unlikely that you are ‘super well’.

dcthatsme · 15/06/2025 23:01

Fragmentedbrain · 14/06/2025 17:46

I understand most people end up with some prolapse eventually :(

No prolapse. No friends of mine have reported prolapse and we’re all post menopausal. I went through menopause at 53. Honestly my 50s were my best decade so far. I was confident, energetic, I achieved masses. You need to eat well, keep as fit as possible and try to stay positive. Try to stop worrying and enjoy what sounds like a really fruitful time for you.

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 22:33

ForZanyAquaViewer · 15/06/2025 22:01

OP, you don’t sound very well. This, in combination with your other comments is rather worrying.

What’s going on in your life? Apart from your (initially amusing, now a bit strange) fury about basic biology, is everything else good?

I am super well thanks I think it's ridiculous you can't imagine that not everyone wants to live forever no matter how decrepit the body they're sitting in. I think maybe some people have very little imagination about what the future holds. Sure menopause may well be overstated now thanks to Davina et al but old age is gonna suck hard.

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Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 15/06/2025 22:21

I had no symptoms at all, my periods just gradually slowed and stopped. Same for mum and sister. My career continued as before. No point worrying about something that might never happen!

spoonbillstretford · 15/06/2025 22:14

I was taking the pill on and off from the age of 17 to 49. Mini pill and combined pill. A few years with copper coil instead, when I developed endometriosis aged 39 and they also said I had PCOS.

I stopped taking the pill six months ago to see if my periods have stopped before thinking of what HRT to have. Six months no periods - fantastic. No menopausal symptoms whatsoever, no endometriosis or PCOS symptoms thank God. A few years ago on the mini pill I had low oestrogen symptoms.

At the age of 49 now my oestrogen levels must be through the floor but I have had nothing like that at all and just feel great. Yes, I do have some brain fog and forgetfulness but nothing any worse than I've had for the last couple of years. If it carries on like this I may not bother with any kind of HRT- subject to any bone density scans I may have in a few years' time.

I feel better than I have for 20 years- since before I had DDs.

Dartmoorcheffy · 15/06/2025 22:07

Apart from a few hot flushes I had absolutely no other issues. Periods just dwindled off at around 42 and by 45 that was it.

Laurmolonlabe · 15/06/2025 22:05

thecatneuterer · 15/06/2025 21:16

Nothing happened to me. Absolutely nothing. No hot flushes, brain fog, nothing. Just at 51 I stopped having periods.

If you are looking forward to death- then I think you need to seek help, because you won't be able to cope with menopause or anything else.
Being resentful about being alive is definitely a mental health red flag.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 15/06/2025 22:01

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 21:16

I'm pleased about this. I don't understand people who enjoy being alive at all. The end is something to look forward to. The undignified slog until then less so.

OP, you don’t sound very well. This, in combination with your other comments is rather worrying.

What’s going on in your life? Apart from your (initially amusing, now a bit strange) fury about basic biology, is everything else good?

GinnyandGeorgia · 15/06/2025 21:51

The good thing about menopause being discussed everywhere is that women don't suffer in silence, and don't mistakenly believe there's nothing they can do about it.

It doesn't mean every woman will suffer from each negative aspect, or even from one problem at all.

ObtuseMoose · 15/06/2025 21:50

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 21:16

I'm pleased about this. I don't understand people who enjoy being alive at all. The end is something to look forward to. The undignified slog until then less so.

Are you OK? No snark intended.

NaneePolly · 15/06/2025 21:49

I wasn’t too bad, I took herbal supplements which must have helped. My friend took HRT from 40years ( she had a hysterectomy) and felt great but when she stopped at 60years she had terrible menopause symptoms.

Pliudev · 15/06/2025 21:44

There are so many people banging on about the menopause these days that it's no wonder you get the impression it's going to be hell. Well, like many on here, I didn't experience that. In fact, I wasn't that aware of it, just glad I didn't have periods anymore. I really wouldn't anticipate the worst.

BIossomtoes · 15/06/2025 21:23

Because if we were like men we’d have to take the whole package - no fucking way.

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 21:21

Yellowstickerstalker · 15/06/2025 21:19

Here’s another way to look at it. Your generation have the information, menopause workplace support and HRT. Those of us now in our mid 50’s had to do this alone. No support groups, no empathy. No awareness or allowances made. It ruined my career and much more. You are so much luckier! I wish I could do it all again with what we know now and what is available now.

If you have a wish why not wish we can just be like men instead?!?!? (In this one way obviously all the other ways look balls)

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wrongthinker · 15/06/2025 21:19

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 21:15

It's what I have observed in other women's lives

Seriously? I'm 53 and have never heard of anyone losing their professional standing or relationships over menopause. I know lots of women who changed their lives for the better. A few who have decided to take HRT and sing its praises. Maybe you need to talk to more older women. You are furious about something that is highly unlikely to happen.

Yellowstickerstalker · 15/06/2025 21:19

Here’s another way to look at it. Your generation have the information, menopause workplace support and HRT. Those of us now in our mid 50’s had to do this alone. No support groups, no empathy. No awareness or allowances made. It ruined my career and much more. You are so much luckier! I wish I could do it all again with what we know now and what is available now.

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 21:17

QueenOfHiraeth · 15/06/2025 19:49

As a woman in her 60s who has gone through menopause and is now healthier and happier than before it, the one thing that makes me furious is the "menopause industry" who frighten younger women into believing that menopause is always awful and anyone not on HRT will shrivel up and die in short order.
My friends and I all went through this just before the menopause became big business. Only 2 of the group had HRT, 6 did not. All of us continued in our careers, none of us failed or gave up and those of us without HRT are not less healthy, less successful or more wizened than those with it

This is reassuring, thanks.

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BIossomtoes · 15/06/2025 21:16

Fragmentedbrain · 15/06/2025 21:15

It's what I have observed in other women's lives

You’re not observing the right women.