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Landlord selling, but won’t sell to me

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Flora73 · 13/06/2025 13:14

After 11 months in the house, my landlord has issued a section 21, my contract rather conveniently contained a break clause so he can do this earlier than the 12 month mark.

I have a mortgage in principle, I’ve been looking for somewhere to buy but he has rejected this and said I still have to leave as they want to maximise the sale price. He has even said that I move out and he will let me know which agent it is on with so I can purchase it that way. It just seems utterly bonkers.

And before anyone lays into me I am fully aware that it is his house and he can do what he likes, and I have no rights, but I can’t work out why he won’t sell to me. We’ve had a good relationship to date with no issues.

Can anyone thing of reasons why this would be?

OP posts:
Flora73 · 13/06/2025 18:00

Avidreader12 · 13/06/2025 17:51

He probably wants you out so he can carry out any improvements, market the property and get the best price possible on open market. Are you sure you weren’t expecting an easy buy by offering to purchase now? As tennant no matter what the relationship is you don’t get first dibs on the purchase. Just move on and look for another property to buy if it comes on open market and you are seriously interested then purchase through the estate agent but I would be doing lots of research on property prices in the area.

I wasn’t expecting an easy buy, I wasn’t expecting any of this and feel blindsided by it. When I looked around it he confirmed that it was a long term rental with no intention of selling. I wasn’t thinking of buying yet but I could if I found the right house. Ideally I would wait 3-4 months.

And I wasn’t planning on buying yet, this has forced my hand to a degree.

OP posts:
Flora73 · 13/06/2025 17:56

Lavenderfarmcottage · 13/06/2025 17:31

Is your furniture okay ? It’s possible that the house is so poorly styled or decorated that he’s better off selling empty. It’s also easier with home opens & showings if it’s empty.

I would speak to some agents about its value and then offer slightly higher depending on how the market is where you are.

It’s lovely, and in keeping with the house.

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Flora73 · 13/06/2025 17:55

Digdongdoo · 13/06/2025 17:37

OP is of the opinion that the house is worth £50k less than the valuation. Did you give your tenant that large of a discount?

I have no evidence that the valuation was as he said it was.

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Flora73 · 13/06/2025 17:53

ThatDaringEagle · 13/06/2025 16:26

How exactly has the LL shown that?!

He's 'playing perfectly fair' to use your own stupid parlance. He's issuing due notice on a rental contract that has a break. That is his legal right to exercise, to repossess his property that he's paid good money to own, rent & maintain over the years.

The OP has since changed her story (anyone else notice this hey!?), she can't afford to buy the house at the market price she thinks it's worth right now, but may be in 4/5 months time, maybe, possibly......

Hmmm, he got it valued over 12 months ago at 350k, so estimate house inflation at 5% in Brexit land (it was 11% in Ireland btw, go figure , so rounding it up ithe house likely to achieve ~370k on the open market in it's current state. (Unoccupied)

He may be handy at DIY & work supervision and figure a few jobs, new carpets & paint throughout and possibly a kitchen renewal & a bit of staging, and he can maybe realise £410-420k.

So, the OP wishes for him to sell to her at 350k in 4/5 months when she may be able to afford that. And any issues with the sale, section form process (she has already admitted considering outstaying her lease, & hinted at becoming a real nuisance, etc, etc). It will be his problem. Yeah right OP, you expect your LL to do without 50-60k extra on the promise of you being maybe able to afford the lower price in 4-5 months.

If I were him now reading this, I'd just want you out ASAP tbh. You're potential trouble for him now & he may well know it.

P.s. Good luck OP, but act fair & don't act the maggot I.e. if you truly want the house, offer what you think it's worth & make your best offer to him. And then respect his decision thereafter on this. It was always his house & he's entitled to do whatever he likes with it within the law. Respect that at least!

Edited

I think your response is rude and unjustified. I could buy the house now but I would rather wait until I was in a stronger position to negotiate.

I don’t think the house is worth £50k less than the last valuation. I don’t know how much the house is worth, I can only look at similar properties which is tricky as is it is a unique house.

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saraclara · 13/06/2025 17:53

I'm bemused, too. I'm having to sell a rental that I 'inherited'(long story), and I'd have been thrilled if the tenants could have bought it. Apart from anything else, it would save the hassle of insuring an empty property, preparing it for advertising, and paying for utilities and council tax etc for an indeterminate amount of time. As well as that I'd be selling to particularly motivated people who would be unlikely to drop out.

But sadly they were nowhere near financially able to do so.

Avidreader12 · 13/06/2025 17:51

He probably wants you out so he can carry out any improvements, market the property and get the best price possible on open market. Are you sure you weren’t expecting an easy buy by offering to purchase now? As tennant no matter what the relationship is you don’t get first dibs on the purchase. Just move on and look for another property to buy if it comes on open market and you are seriously interested then purchase through the estate agent but I would be doing lots of research on property prices in the area.

pinkdelight · 13/06/2025 17:48

LBFseBrom · 13/06/2025 17:11

Yes I know that is what he wants but many landlords to give tenants first refusal and are happy to accept a lesser price.

I am selling a flat I i inherited. It is currently let. I have offered it to the tenant at below market price; I'm not desperate to make a fortune out of it and I would be happy with what I got if the tenant bought it. Unfortunately he is not in a position to buy so it is on the market, he's prepared to move out if the new owner doesn't want a tenant.

I've known a couple of people who've bought a house or flat that they've rented, they were given first refusal with some knocked off the price. It's not uncommon but obviously depends on the landlord's circumstances.

Well that's swell when you've inherited a flat, it's all a lovely bonus for you. Other people have paid for their properties so aren't so inclined to give them away.

Agree with PPs that the dickish options open to the tenant - being difficult about moving, viewings etc - are precisely what has led to landlords' wariness around this issue and why it's more sensible to serve notice and have a clean slate than trust that the OP won't be one of those kinds of flakes.

BIossomtoes · 13/06/2025 17:46

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:43

Purposefully sold at below market rate?Lesser price?Below market rate That’s what your recommending
You said you’d sell below market rate to a sitting tenant.

You’re inferring some Kind of altruism were you would have happily taken less money to accommodate tenant finances. As it happens they couldn’t afford the flat anyway

Getting EA estimates on sale price and closing the middle isn’t necessarily selling at lesser price . It’s not the same

Where did I say it was selling at a lesser price? Although without exposure to the open market, who knows? And it wasn’t me as my three line post makes clear - did you even bother to read it before rushing in guns blazing?

Digdongdoo · 13/06/2025 17:44

Cattenberg · 13/06/2025 17:39

I'm surprised that several people are talking about bidding wars, sealed bids and houses going for way over the asking price. That was common in 2021 after the Covid lockdowns, but that was an unprecedented situation. Where I live, the market has slowed considerably and the balance of power between buyers and sellers is much more equitable.

It's still like that here. Bottom end of the market is still mad, houses flying off the market over asking within days.

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:43

BIossomtoes · 13/06/2025 17:35

It’s not just because though. My friend sold to her tenant because it saved her paying estate agent fees and because she needed to do nothing to smarten it up before marketing it. She got three valuations and went for the middle one.

Purposefully sold at below market rate?Lesser price?Below market rate That’s what your recommending
You said you’d sell below market rate to a sitting tenant.

You’re inferring some Kind of altruism were you would have happily taken less money to accommodate tenant finances. As it happens they couldn’t afford the flat anyway

Getting EA estimates on sale price and closing the middle isn’t necessarily selling at lesser price . It’s not the same

Cattenberg · 13/06/2025 17:39

I'm surprised that several people are talking about bidding wars, sealed bids and houses going for way over the asking price. That was common in 2021 after the Covid lockdowns, but that was an unprecedented situation. Where I live, the market has slowed considerably and the balance of power between buyers and sellers is much more equitable.

Digdongdoo · 13/06/2025 17:37

LBFseBrom · 13/06/2025 17:11

Yes I know that is what he wants but many landlords to give tenants first refusal and are happy to accept a lesser price.

I am selling a flat I i inherited. It is currently let. I have offered it to the tenant at below market price; I'm not desperate to make a fortune out of it and I would be happy with what I got if the tenant bought it. Unfortunately he is not in a position to buy so it is on the market, he's prepared to move out if the new owner doesn't want a tenant.

I've known a couple of people who've bought a house or flat that they've rented, they were given first refusal with some knocked off the price. It's not uncommon but obviously depends on the landlord's circumstances.

OP is of the opinion that the house is worth £50k less than the valuation. Did you give your tenant that large of a discount?

BIossomtoes · 13/06/2025 17:35

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:16

You know couple of LL inc you who'll happily accept a lower property price out of misplaced sentimentality, sense of duty? Ok
That is nice for you all and makes me think you don’t need or don’t want to maximise sale price. Happy to settle for a lower price just because

It’s not just because though. My friend sold to her tenant because it saved her paying estate agent fees and because she needed to do nothing to smarten it up before marketing it. She got three valuations and went for the middle one.

OhcantthInkofaname · 13/06/2025 17:35

Has he said he would not sell to you once it's on the market?

Lavenderfarmcottage · 13/06/2025 17:31

Is your furniture okay ? It’s possible that the house is so poorly styled or decorated that he’s better off selling empty. It’s also easier with home opens & showings if it’s empty.

I would speak to some agents about its value and then offer slightly higher depending on how the market is where you are.

Sassybooklover · 13/06/2025 17:29

Essentially he wants the highest price he can get for the property. So unfortunately yes, you will need to move out and then go through the estate agent once it comes on the market. Lots of landlords are selling up in my area. Property behind me has been put on the market recently, it needs new bathroom, cloakroom, kitchen, boiler, fascias, doors and windows! The landlord has just tarted up around the edges, and put it for sale at an asking price, which he will never achieve! Looking on Rightmove, it's probably £40K overpriced!! Pure greed.

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:16

LBFseBrom · 13/06/2025 17:11

Yes I know that is what he wants but many landlords to give tenants first refusal and are happy to accept a lesser price.

I am selling a flat I i inherited. It is currently let. I have offered it to the tenant at below market price; I'm not desperate to make a fortune out of it and I would be happy with what I got if the tenant bought it. Unfortunately he is not in a position to buy so it is on the market, he's prepared to move out if the new owner doesn't want a tenant.

I've known a couple of people who've bought a house or flat that they've rented, they were given first refusal with some knocked off the price. It's not uncommon but obviously depends on the landlord's circumstances.

You know couple of LL inc you who'll happily accept a lower property price out of misplaced sentimentality, sense of duty? Ok
That is nice for you all and makes me think you don’t need or don’t want to maximise sale price. Happy to settle for a lower price just because

LBFseBrom · 13/06/2025 17:11

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:02

What? You think LL take a lower price from tenant out of misplaced sentimentality. Utter mince
It’s a transaction. To maximise profits and make the asset appealing to multiple buyers

Yes I know that is what he wants but many landlords to give tenants first refusal and are happy to accept a lesser price.

I am selling a flat I i inherited. It is currently let. I have offered it to the tenant at below market price; I'm not desperate to make a fortune out of it and I would be happy with what I got if the tenant bought it. Unfortunately he is not in a position to buy so it is on the market, he's prepared to move out if the new owner doesn't want a tenant.

I've known a couple of people who've bought a house or flat that they've rented, they were given first refusal with some knocked off the price. It's not uncommon but obviously depends on the landlord's circumstances.

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:09

All those advising tenant to act up ,wait on eviction etc that’s the reason LL wants tenant gone
Potential hassle. Costs. Hassle. Disruption to sale

Ferguson0909 · 13/06/2025 17:04

samG76 · 13/06/2025 17:01

I think you should ask for a lump sum to leave with no fuss.

well she could do that. Or she could just move out so the landlord does not have to take her to court where she would probably have to pay court costs or damage her credit rating.
good advice from someone with a business brain

Middlechild3 · 13/06/2025 17:03

FuckityFux · 13/06/2025 15:37

He’s shown that he’s not interested in playing fair.

In your shoes, I’d stay put until he gets an eviction notice via the courts and in the meantime, keep looking for a suitable property yo buy.

And that attitude nails why the landlord wants the tenant out before it's marketed!

Zone2NorthLondon · 13/06/2025 17:02

LBFseBrom · 13/06/2025 16:58

He won't sell to you because he can get a lot more without a tenant.

I think a tenant should have first refusal and a landlord accept a lower price but, as you say, it's his house so there's not much you can do about it. I am sorry and do hope you find somewhere good soon.

What? You think LL take a lower price from tenant out of misplaced sentimentality. Utter mince
It’s a transaction. To maximise profits and make the asset appealing to multiple buyers

Ferguson0909 · 13/06/2025 17:02

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 13/06/2025 13:16

Greed? He wants the highest price and he's more likely to get that without a tennant.

You could point out to him that a sale to you would mean it all went rather quickly and no chain.

Why is it greed when the landlord wants the best price he can? Stop being ridiculous.
Why should he give money to his tenant?

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 13/06/2025 17:02

We've just sold a rental property where we had to evict the tenant as she wouldn't move out. Load of fucking hassle.
Had she offered the asking price to buy the house we would have absolutely accepted as it's so much easier.

samG76 · 13/06/2025 17:01

I think you should ask for a lump sum to leave with no fuss.