Breaking News - Israel

I think the ignorance has outed itself in the question. I've got second hand embarrassment.

Yes, they would. We've seen how much the Iranian regime care about their OWN people. The premise behind MAD is that the people in charge actually care about the people in their country. Say what you want about Netanyahu (not a fan myself) but the fact is that he has been peacefully voted out of office before. Can't really see that happening with the dear Supreme Leader.

It actually is. 1947, 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982 and now.
In all these cases, Israel was being attacked. And while I oppose the settlements and the occupation, let's remember that prior to 1967, Israel wasn't in the WB or Gaza. That was Jordan and Egypt and yet no Palestinian state was established. Interesting fact, no?

And what would you like to call this particular group of people who identify this way due to a common culture and language? It's not a slur, strange you seem to by implying it is. People identify as Arab. Hence you have Arab countries, Arab league etc

In 1947, the civil war was between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews.

The problem with that is?

Would Iran do that?

I wouldn't bet against it.

Has it been confirmed that Israel has nuclear weapons? They've kept the answer deliberately vague in the past so it could all be a bluff.

‘The Arabs’ 🤔

This isn’t actually true!

Isn't the whole point of nuclear weapons as defensive.

Countries with nuclear weapons won't attack countries with nuclear weapons because they fear about retaliation.

So if Iran developed a nuclear weapon and used it against Israel, Israel would strike back. Mutual destruction. Would Iran do that?

I think the worry is nuclear bombs not delivered by missile. A small bomb in a city. Delivered by terrorists.

Iran decided.

They signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty where the following was agreed:

the NPT non-nuclear-weapon states agree never to acquire nuclear weapons and the NPT nuclear-weapon states in exchange agree to share the benefits of peaceful nuclear technology and to pursue nuclear disarmament aimed at the ultimate elimination of their nuclear arsenals.

Iran has signed the treaty and has not withdrawn from it as North Korea did.

Respective culture and history, determines how each country will use those arms.

Definitely some "Protocols of Elders of Zion" vibes with those posts.
I think snowstorming believes that the "zionists" are trying to enslave the gentiles as part of their evil plan for world dominance. They probably should change their username to snowstormfront

Yeah, we can go back to 1967 when Jordan and Egypt attacked Israel for existing (and Syria of course). You know, when Egypt was under Gaza and WB was under Jordan and (guess what) that was fine and there was no Palestinian State.

Or we can go back to 1947 when the Arabs started a civil war on the day that the partition plan was approved by the UN and rejected by them or 1948 when Arab countries (armies of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) invaded the new country of Israel (which was declared by Palestinian zionists on the day the Brits left whereas the Palestinian Arabs did not declare a state).

But nice defending of the atrocities of 7/10...

The fact that you don't believe the long standing conflict is deeply complex, explains why you see no nuance - it's just black and white to you. I'm finding some of your posts offensive and I am not Jewish. The simplicity of your statements are undermining much history. History, about which, you are clearly ignorant.

Hamas terrorists are being used an excuse to commit a genocide of the Palestinian indigenous people.

Theres nothing complex about it. But keep silent and do nothing, and the same will happen when one day us lot are the new victims of Israeli arrogance.

I'm not pretending that it's not an all round tragic situation, within a very complex conflict. I'm certainly not the one inferring that Hamas terrorists don't exist.

That's right. Of course, the question is who is actually threatened? In the case of North Korea and Iran, one can argue that no one wishes harm on the civilians of these countries and, indeed, their own people do not support the regimes. The nuclear weapons are sought to secure the regime, not protect the people.

But, yes, indeed, countries that feel threatened for whatever reason do take steps to prevent it Whether that's justified is anothe question.

Yes, and countries that are deemed unworthy of nukes also feel threatened and will take steps to prevent it .

It's not up to me. I don't approve of Russia either but here we are.
What i said is that it's understandable that countries directly and existentially threatened by another country obtaining nuclear weapons, with direct threats by leadership of said country, would take steps to prevent it.

So it's a nuclear world
And while it remains a nuclear world regimes you dont approve of will feel as entitled as the West to have them and will take whatever steps they can to get them and ultimately will get them.

Go figure

When has israel ever said it wants to wipe Iran off the map?
Israel keeps nuclear weapons as counties around have many times threatened to wipe if off the map.
Iran is responsible for the deaths of far more Arab civilians than israel if that's what concerns you

Well, of course a non nuclear world would be lovely. It'd also be nice if we all sat together and sang kumbaya.
I don't think adding nuclear weapons to north korea and Iran is a good idea and if a country is directly and existentially threatened by this (you know, like Iran's leaders literally saying 'death to israel) and they have the power and ability to prevent said country obtaining nuclear weapons, then makes sense that they will to protect their own citizens. Shame south korea couldn't prevent this from north korea in time. They should have.

For those of you who may not know, Israel has a nuclear arsenal itself.

So it's a case of the kettle calling the pot black.

The Israeli government doesn't want Iran to have what they have for themselves. A nuclear weapons pile that they developed in secret and don't admit to having.

So, we have one rogue state attacking another rogue state and claiming the moral high ground!

I know which pariah state, which commits war crimes, which bombs women, children and non combatants sheltering in tents, that I'm more concerned about if this conflict between Israel and Iran continues and escalates. The one that starves a population and bombs hospitals and aid workers against the rules of war as stated in the Geneva Convention.

The one with the nuclear arsenal, that is, Israel. Whose government with it's actions sink further every day into brutality.

https://www.nti.org/countries/israel/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction