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Couples therapy in abuse...any therapists here?

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Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 15:35

I know AIBU isn't the right place but posting for traffic.

If possible some sensitivity would be appreciated because I'm really struggling.

I'm in an abusive relationship. Mostly emotional/financial but I'm completely at rock bottom. I know I need to leave but I've no strength, self esteem or energy and don't want him to leave me, despite feeling traumatised. He presents as a Narcissist. I hate using this word because it's very overused, however he fulfils every characteristic.

We are having relationship therapy. This has been forced upon us for reasons I won't go into. Ultimately I know I need to leave and have individual therapy but I don't want to.

However I'm struggling and don't know how to deal with sessions. I'm open and honest but everything is used against me. I effectively sit there crying, shaking and trying to dissociate because I can't cope with it. She is a good therapist and does challenge etc but I know she has to remain impartial. I just feel I'm trying to defend myself because he tells lies.
I don't even know what I want to ask at this point. I suppose if there are any couples therapists, I'd like some reassurance that you can pick up on his traits. I don't even know why it matters.
For 3 days after a session I have a headache, feel very emotional and struggle. I don't really know where to turn. I feel this process may destroy me as it will empower him.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 12/06/2025 17:40

The issue is also that OP at some point wants this man to change. She wants him to have a lightbulb moment where he decides to change.
It should be no surprise he’s nasty about you in sessions.
It is almost as if you are basing your own opinion of yourself on his opinion of you. He’s not a normal human being, he’s clearly a narcissist so expecting him to have normal human emotions is getting you nowhere.

SunnyPugdays · 12/06/2025 17:10

This is all kinds of fucked up

Not you op
Just the situation social services have put you in.
Have you any chance or way to leave and get yourself and your kids away from him .
Plenty of people on Mumsnet will help support with that if you feel strong enough

SandyY2K · 12/06/2025 16:49

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 15:58

Ok, so we were "forced"...advised to attend my social services. I discussed the relationship with a professional for some advice. It was not meant to go further. This professional made a safeguarding referral to social services due to children in the household.

I'm so emotionally exhausted that I probably come across calm. Although the shaking and crying suggests otherwise. He's quite dominating and so he goes on and on and it's hard to defend myself as I can't interrupt.

You can't interrupt in the sessions or at home?

Therapy with abusers is dangerous. I've sent you a PM.

JennyLCSW · 12/06/2025 16:40

I’m a licensed trauma therapist in the US with 20+ years of experience and would NEVER work with any couple where domestic violence is an issue. Generally speaking, it’s not recommended for the very reasons listed in your post…the “therapy” just becomes another weapon for the abuser. If your couple’s therapist knows about the abuse I would highly question their ethics.

A good place to look for actual help is any resource, private or government sponsored, that specifically serves victims of domestic violence. Is there anything like that near you?

Ohmygodthepain · 12/06/2025 16:38

Ponoka7 · 12/06/2025 16:15

You've only been forced into therapy, because you won't leave. Why aren't you leaving? Why haven't you asked SS for support to leave? You could lose your children, why are you playing games?

This.

Assuming ss are involved as they have concerns about your relationship and the impact it's having on your dc.

You either accept that if you want to stay in the relationship you must engage with the therapy (bat shit idea if there is abuse, why the fuck would you want to stay?) OR you leave the relationship.

Your children are at risk here. It's not about therapy it's about protecting your kids.

pikkumyy77 · 12/06/2025 16:16

BelfastBard · 12/06/2025 16:02

If you told the therapist you are the victim of abuse within a relationship and she agreed to take you both on as clients then she is not a good therapist, and has most likely breached her ethical guidelines. Therapists are not meant to take on work with couples where there is an abusive dynamic.

This is correct. The therapist is absolutely wrong to have accepted you both into the therapy. It is high risk (to you) contraindicated and unethical (of her).

Don’t bother about reporting her—that is not the issue. Tell social services and the therapist that you know you don’t believe you actually KNOW the marital relationship is abusive and demand support.

You have been gaslit by dh, social services, and the therapist long enough. I know how hard it is for you to believe yourself so get some support. Call women’s support services. Read Why Does He Do That to help diagnose the kind if abuser he is, snd stop letting him use therapy to further the abuse.

Sassybooklover · 12/06/2025 16:15

I agree with another comment - social services are viewing your relationship as toxic rather than abusive. Therapists aren't supposed to take on clients where there's abuse involved, so she's not a good therapist. Unfortunately, your partner isn't going to admit to abusing you, all he's going to do is blame you entirely for the state of your relationship. Anything you say in front of him will be used against you by him. You need to seek proper support from a DV organisation, so you can leave. You must leave in order to protect your children. Therapy on your own will help you but joint therapy hasn't a hope in hell of working. All you're doing is giving him more and more ammunition to use against you at a later date.

Ponoka7 · 12/06/2025 16:15

You've only been forced into therapy, because you won't leave. Why aren't you leaving? Why haven't you asked SS for support to leave? You could lose your children, why are you playing games?

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:14

Following our session today he's just messaged me saying he's surprised she hasn't phoned the police on him given my portrayal of him and how vehemently I say things against him...nevermind with the added tears.
I honestly don't cry on purpose. I haven't let him see me cry for a long time as he used to laugh at me. I'm just struggling in sessions to hear how little he thinks of me.

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 16:12

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:10

I do this quite a lot. I just say "ok then" because I've no energy to argue etc.

Grey rock is the way to go. Don't argue with him it's a complete waste of time, just "Yes dear."

OchAyeTheNo0 · 12/06/2025 16:11

It sounds like you need to contact SS and the therapist to get support to leave.

PITCHpink · 12/06/2025 16:11

No hope if you say you don’t want to leave. People can try to help and lead a horse to water but they can’t make it drink.

You’ve been given advice, told where to go and what to do but you don’t want to. Women’s aid would have been a good starting point but that’s not the advice you want so you’ll be stuck in the same situation

Jellycatspyjamas · 12/06/2025 16:10

We are having relationship therapy. This has been forced upon us for reasons I won't go into. Ultimately I know I need to leave and have individual therapy but I don't want to.

Honestly there’s not much anyone can do to help you while this is the case.

Social work can’t force you to go to therapy, they can strongly suggest it, they can protect your child if you won’t, but they can’t force you into therapy.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 12/06/2025 16:10

Trying to deal with this man is like negotiating with a monkey with a machine gun - it’s a waste of time.
It is waste of time having therapy with him.
It is a waste of time getting upset about what he says in sessions.
What you probably yearn for is for the therapist to recognise he is lying and to
acknowledge this, so you feel assured that you are being abused.
Again, this isn’t what you need. It is more what you want.
What you need is to leave. Get help in individual therapy and leave him.
If you don’t want to leave him you will repeat this cycle, you can go to every therapist the BACP has to offer, and nothing will change.
Things will only improve when you leave.
(I am not without empathy, I just wish you could know you are putting yourself through this and it won’t help!)

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:10

MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 16:07

You need to stop engaging as he's getting off on destroying you. Just nod along and don't listen to him.

I do this quite a lot. I just say "ok then" because I've no energy to argue etc.

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 16:07

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:02

I know. We had therapy once before and he made up all sorts of lies about her diagnosing me with mental illness, which was completely untrue. I've made it clear in sessions that I'm concerned anything I say will be used against me.

You need to stop engaging as he's getting off on destroying you. Just nod along and don't listen to him.

HerNameIsDebbie · 12/06/2025 16:04

I don't really know what a therapist can do?
You've recognised there is abuse, you've said you need to leave, you've said you don't want to.
Talking about it in therapy, especially when you've said you can't actually say anything, isn't going to get you anywhere.
Are you in a position to leave? If not, how can you get yourself into that position?

MattCauthon · 12/06/2025 16:03

Contact women's aid. SS seems tot hink this is toxic, rather than abusive.

Take control in the sessions - either refuse to go, or as a PP has suggested, zone out. Mostly, I'd be considering this is NOT a good therapist. Even if she doesn't see abuse, she should be aiming to facilitate discusison. that's certainly not happening right now.

BelfastBard · 12/06/2025 16:02

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 15:54

So a lot of couples therapists won't speak to each party separately. However when I booked her, I asked if she had experience in abuse and she offered me a telephone call, as long I told my partner I had spoken with her. So I did explain everything.
She does work with abuse. However, I don't know where the line is drawn and a therapist will say "I can't work with you".
She told me she was happy to see us but if he does have the traits I had discussed then he wasn't likely to engage properly.

He effectively says he has 50% responsibility just because if he wasn't in the relationship then we wouldn't have issues. Yet he has spent the whole session ranting about me, my childhood, how horrible I am. He lies, so ultimately what is the point.
He pushed me once and says that I raised both of my fists to him first. Its a complete lie and never happened. I find it challenging to have someone who has absolutely destroyed me implying that I'm some psychopath (another thing I'm called).

If you told the therapist you are the victim of abuse within a relationship and she agreed to take you both on as clients then she is not a good therapist, and has most likely breached her ethical guidelines. Therapists are not meant to take on work with couples where there is an abusive dynamic.

Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:02

MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 15:58

It's a given that you never enter therapy with an abuser because they do exactly what yours is doing. I'm not surprised the therapist hasn't spotted the abuse, few are trained in DV.

You're your own worst enemy because you want to stay while he destroys your mental health and further erodes your self esteem. Read up on trauma bonds and contact a domestic abuse organisation for advice and support.

I know. We had therapy once before and he made up all sorts of lies about her diagnosing me with mental illness, which was completely untrue. I've made it clear in sessions that I'm concerned anything I say will be used against me.

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Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:01

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Purely because spoke to someone about what was happening at home.

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Brokenbeyondrepair1 · 12/06/2025 16:00

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So he knows we spoke however I didn't have to go into details. I just said I had phoned her to book the appointment and explained why we were going to therapy.

She is very highly qualified, members of both the BACP and NCPS.

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 15:58

It's a given that you never enter therapy with an abuser because they do exactly what yours is doing. I'm not surprised the therapist hasn't spotted the abuse, few are trained in DV.

You're your own worst enemy because you want to stay while he destroys your mental health and further erodes your self esteem. Read up on trauma bonds and contact a domestic abuse organisation for advice and support.

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