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To be frustrated by the way some men throw around “no homo” and similar phrases?

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WarmGreyCritic · 12/06/2025 13:44

I know I’m generalising here but one of my biggest frustrations with certain male spaces is the internalised homophobia that’s definitely rooted in misogyny. Anything that falls outside of a rigid, heteronormative framework gets labelled as ‘gay’ and you hear phrases like “no homo” constantly. It’s like some men are so afraid of being perceived as anything other than hyper-masculine that they can’t even express basic emotions without a disclaimer. AIBU to find this exhausting?

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mutinyonthetwix · 12/06/2025 18:52

I've only ever heard "no homo" used to satirise homophobic attitudes.

Taytayslayslay · 12/06/2025 18:41

NeelyOHara · 12/06/2025 13:52

I’ve never heard the expression ‘no homo’ and I’ve met some knuckle draggers in my time. Is it regional?

It's usually said like 'love you bro no homo' so it's when they say affectionate things to clear up that they're not gay.

Scorchio84 · 12/06/2025 18:34

Butchyrestingface · 12/06/2025 17:55

I've never heard this phrase either in-person or online. Having said that, I tend to avoid Reddit incel groups so maybe's that's the answer. Smile

😆😆😂😆All of the banned laughter emojis

Yeah me neither.. it seems pretty dated

Simonjt · 12/06/2025 18:33

No homo is from the lonely island song, but thats taking the piss out of toxic masculinity, so unlikely what they’re referring to.

Gay was a very common insult at our sons last primary school.

unstableunicorn · 12/06/2025 18:16

Really surprised that so few people have heard the phrase no homo, especially in person. I have noticed it less lately but definitely still hear it about here and there

LSTMS30555 · 12/06/2025 18:08

My son says it to his mates; He’ll say love ya bro no homo in that context but to heterosexual and homosexual friends. None of them take any offence to it 🤷🏻‍♀️

JabbaTheBeachHut · 12/06/2025 18:06

How have I lived for 56 years and never heard the phrase 'No homo'? 😳

I've never even read it on the internet before this thread.

steff13 · 12/06/2025 18:04

popcornpower2025 · 12/06/2025 15:27

Ha I haven't heard anyone say that in at least 10 years, if not more.

I'm in the US, and I've heard both, but not since I was in high school. In the 90s. I'd be very surprised to hear them today.

Greenfields20 · 12/06/2025 18:03

WarmGreyCritic · 12/06/2025 14:06

It’s more common among younger guys especially in online or bantery male spaces. Think Reddit, gaming chats or certain social groups where emotional expression is policed with humour. I’ve heard it mostly from men in their 20s and early 30s - it’s not necessarily said with malice but it does reflect something deeper about how some men are socialised.

Sorry just saw this- is it really such a big deal to you that on gaming platforms etc guys might say no homo when bantering with each other?

Greenfields20 · 12/06/2025 17:57

WarmGreyCritic · 12/06/2025 14:03

It might be partly regional or generational but I’ve heard it mostly from younger men or in online spaces that mimic “locker room” culture. It tends to pop up when someone expresses anything remotely emotional or complimentary towards another man and they feel the need to clarify their masculinity with “no homo.” It’s one of those things you might not notice until you’re in certain circles but once you hear it you start spotting the pattern.

What are these online spaces?

Butchyrestingface · 12/06/2025 17:55

I've never heard this phrase either in-person or online. Having said that, I tend to avoid Reddit incel groups so maybe's that's the answer. Smile

Snorlaxo · 12/06/2025 17:53

My 2 sons have never heard this. I heard them call something gay (as in lame) when they were young teens (like 13) but there’s other slang terms that they use now. That sort of usage is very Jeremy Clarkson which put them off at the time.

JHound · 12/06/2025 17:49

@HunnyPot

Sigh….there is so much research on this and even anecdotally to claim men are less homophobic than women is laughable.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5065072/

Research consistently shows men to be more homophobic than woman (e.g., Raja & Stokes; Gough, 2002; Herek, 2002).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2828630/#:~:text=Specifically%2C%20boys%20will%20report%20more,are%20more%20homophobic%20than%20females.

Specifically, boys will report more negative attitudes toward gay males than girls do, and boys will report more negative attitudes toward lesbians than girls do. This is in accord with many prior studies showing that males are more homophobic than females

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societalattitudestowardhomosexuality

And while gender differences are not prevalent, in those countries where they are, women are consistently more accepting of homosexuality than men."

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/#:~:text=In%20most%20of%20the%20countries%20surveyed%2C%20there,saying%20homosexuality%20should%20be%20accepted%20by%20society.

In the Pew global study there is no country where men are more accepting than women.

The Global Divide on Homosexuality Persists

Despite major changes in LGBT rights around the world, acceptance of homosexuality remains sharply divided by country, region and economic development.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/

outerspacepotato · 12/06/2025 17:49

The people you're around are living well back in the past century.

Wake up. We're a quarter of the way into the 21st Century and that shit is unacceptable.

I've never heard the phrase but gay baiting stopped being normalized many years ago. Find new people. Tell the ones who are using that slur to shut the fuck up or report them if this is happening in your workplace.

IndeedReally · 12/06/2025 17:44

"no homo" was definitely a thing that people said out loud when I was younger. It was used by boys to clarify they weren't gay before complimenting another boy, e.g. "no homo, your biceps are massive".

I haven't heard it for about 15 years and I am shocked it's still in use. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

ZiggyPlaysGuitarrr · 12/06/2025 17:43

Another person who's never heard the phrase! It must be who you spend time with or what you look at online.

DiscoBob · 12/06/2025 17:40

WarmGreyCritic · 12/06/2025 14:01

I’ve heard that argument before - that’s it’s satirical or meant to mock homophobia itself. But the thing is, satire only really works when it punches up or has clear intent behind it. A lot of the time when I’ve heard it used in real life, it hasn’t come across that way at all - it’s more like a reflex to distance themselves from anything seen as ‘soft’ or emotional.

The guys I’ve heard using it are pretty ordinary, some funny some not but it often comes from a place of discomfort rather than critique. And you’re right, the real question is whether LGBTQ+ people find it offensive. If the answer is yes, then maybe we need to retire the joke.

Yeah, you're not wrong. I think I might have been giving the people who use it too much credit?!

Myneighboursnorlax · 12/06/2025 17:35

I’m baffled by how many people have never heard “no homo”. It’s usually used in this kind of context:

”hey man, I really love you, thanks for being there for me, no homo”

Like as a add on to mean “as a friend, I’m not gay”

FrippEnos · 12/06/2025 17:32

I have never heard "no homo".

I did/do hear lots of things being labeled as gay/ghey from teenagers both male and female.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 12/06/2025 17:28

LateQuartet · 12/06/2025 16:05

What, you think only straight men can lift heavy things? Or you don't think that, but you nonetheless say something that suggests you do think that?

Neither of those.

I think both gay and straight men can lift heavy things. It's just literally a saying I heard in the 80s and 90s and just pops out my mouth when I see a man doing something that requires strength.

LateQuartet · 12/06/2025 16:05

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 12/06/2025 15:43

I still use a phrase that's probably frowned upon when I see a man doing something that needs physical strength (say, lifting a heavy box). But I am definitely not homophobic.

What, you think only straight men can lift heavy things? Or you don't think that, but you nonetheless say something that suggests you do think that?

Booksandwine80 · 12/06/2025 16:05

WarmGreyCritic · 12/06/2025 13:57

That’s great to hear and honestly I wish that was more common. I’m not saying all men or all environments are like this but it definitely still happens. I’ve heard it in gyms, group chats, even workplaces. It’s not always aggressive either, sometimes it’s subtle or said as a ‘joke’ but the impact is the same. Glad your circle is respectful but I think the wider culture still has work to do.

What’s the context of the conversation? I don’t understand why anyone would say this?😳

Missey85 · 12/06/2025 15:58

Sounds like your friends are the problem none of my friends say that?

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 12/06/2025 15:43

I still use a phrase that's probably frowned upon when I see a man doing something that needs physical strength (say, lifting a heavy box). But I am definitely not homophobic.

skippy67 · 12/06/2025 15:39

This phrase was around when my DC were at secondary school 10+ years ago for the eldest. I've never adults say it though. We're in SE London