Has David Walliams finally wrecked what was left of his career?

Have a good night.

Most entertainers are attention seeking. It’s part of their job.

it’s okay not to enjoy David. Really, it is.

Just don’t be libellous. That would suck.

I think this thread has taken a personal and nasty turn that has nothing to do with Walliams’ behaviour.

Have a good night all.

You could just choose a different comedian. Simple as that.

They are not releasing the footage, and we haven’t heard what happened when they weren’t filming. You don’t know what conversations were had behind the scenes. Perhaps Rob had a conversation with him afterwards or even today. Maybe Matt (being raised in the Jewish faith) had a conversation with him.

I think people are dog piling and it’s almost on libellous territory.

You don't seem to understand racism at all if you think some of the most powerful and wealthiest white people in the world can be victims of it.

It's great you're so passionate about fighting racism though, I'll look forward to going back through your old posts and seeing all the times you spoke up when racism directed at black people over and over and over again has occurred. Because you certainly won't be one of those idiots who think 'reverse racism' is a thing and are only interested in 'protecting' white people from it.

They weren’t funny 20 years ago, but I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about his recent performances and behaviour. And no, he wasn’t calling Nazi’s wankers. He only did the wanker sign the second time and they were talking about waving, nit Nazis. On the basis of what people have said, he was suggesting the injury was caused by a salute or a wanker sign. Unfunny and pretty unpleasant (and yes, I know the injury wasn’t real).

Edit: I don’t think he’s a Nazi either. I think he’s an attention seeking twat who doesn’t care who he upsets and who thinks everything he does is hilarious. It’s not.

I really feel like we cannot put today’s clutch your pearls mentalities on comedy that was twenty years ago. In their podcast, David and Matt both say that they couldn’t do it now.

I thought their comedy was funny. They took the piss out of everyone regardless of class. You cannot please everybody.

Choose a different comedian. It’s that simple.

I think David was calling Nazis wankers. They are. I don’t think he is a Nazi.

Not everyone is going to like you. That’s okay.

I am sure that David is hearing from his Jewish friends or people in his orbit.

I know he has depression and I just feel that this could affect his mental health (mental health is important).

If you’re insensitive about mental health, that’s on you. You could be libellous by making those comments on here.

Seriously? Doing a Nazi salute for attention (not as part of a mickey take of Nazism) and you’re ok with that?

Why?

Of course. We just disagree on whether it was racist I guess. It was a comment regarding race, obviously. That doesn’t automatically make it racist.

I love to laugh. I just don’t find, racism, sexism, ablism, and misogyny very funny. They are, in fact, some of the things I need comedy to recover from

I understand racism and just because someone is more wealthy and powerful than you it doesn't mean it's okay to be racist towards them.

I’m afraid if we keep cancelling comedy shows, we would never find anything humorous.

We need to laugh. Life is sad enough.

I enjoy David. I think he’s funny. I also know that comedy tastes vary and some may not agree.

That’s okay.

Some of these comments about David could libellous. I wouldn’t wish anyone to be sued.

I’m comfortable with ‘Nazi salute’ being on the ‘let’s not employ this person any more’ side of the equation.

You’ve never heard something described as ‘terribly nice’?

It doesn't matter if David W is a nice or horrible person, or if his earlier work is great or crap. If we get outraged to the point of cancelling panel shows over a nazi salute, it very gradually narrows what we can laugh at. Next time it might be a nicer person getting cancelled for something less extreme than this.

You understand power dynamics?

I don’t find cruelty amusing. Never have. You don’t need to be sorry I hated it. I’m more than fine with that.
Could have done without having to deal with teenage girls repeating it failing to realise they were the butt of the joke (Vicky Pollard) though.
Nothing funny about privileged people laughing at ‘poor people’. And that’s before we get on to the hideous men-only expensive dinners he used to speak at where the teenage waitresses spent the whole night being groped.
Awful, unfunny person. I don’t know how anyone can see the video of how he used to treat the young men on stage in his stand up and think he should still be in the public eye.

I don’t know why. I just found it funny.

I’m sorry that you hated it.

100% I agree.

Terribly is a negative word, that derives from the term terror, meaning horror, unpleasant, nasty.

If a white person would have sat on a television set and said what she said in reverse, they'd be arrested, not work again & be completely disowned by any colleagues too.

In what way was laughing at disabled people funny exactly. I was training to teach when it was big. Hated every second. It encouraged cruelty. It was always punching down and that is never funny.

I was pondering on this further today.

I’ve obviously not seen the clip but I guess the humour in using the Nazi salute is manifold.

Firstly, it’s the idea of making the Nazis a caricature, as has been done in countless comedies before. The idea that they’re taking part in a dancing show (which was the subject being discussed) makes them look silly.

And then there’s the humour in suggesting that a perfectly lovely person would break out into a spontaneous Nazi salute. It’s the suggestion of the ridiculous that makes it funny, plus of course the shock value. Pretty much the same for the wanking/sexual gesture. It’s the fact that it would be insanely out of character and out of place in a dancing show that provides humorous context.

I’m not saying I would find it funny. I’ve not seen the clip so I don’t know. I said earlier that I don’t really like David Walliams so probably not. Wouldn’t rule it out though.

I just don’t think using a Nazi salute within a humorous context is unacceptable. It might not be suitable for a mainstream BBC show and that’s understandable. But I can see it has a place as edgy humour and I would always defend that, even if it’s not something I find funny myself.

What is unacceptable is Elon Musk bashing out a Nazi salute-type gesture to whip up support from voters on the political right.

A comedian mocking Nazis and making inappropriate suggestions in the name of humour, I can’t get worked up about.

Of course, but it's not usually used as a positive 'very'.

Imagine if someone had described her family as 'terribly black'. They, quite rightly would have been criticised, especially if they then said well, you're aware of the usage of 'terribly' for 'very' right.

I think he’s funny and charming.

But you cannot please everyone.