Open door for someone on crutches.

I agree.

As I said, opening doors is fine regardless of disability. Touching people's stuff (or them) is not fine and the fact that you have looked st them and decided they need help even though they didn't ask for it doesn't make it fine. It's intrusive and if you are doing it because they are disabled also patronizing.

I think (hope) people are talking at cross purposes.

I think everybody agrees holding a door open for someone is fine and you don't need to ask first.

But you need to ask before touching someone or their property.

Am I wrong?

Having reached a certain age people have started to offer help, my butcher offered to carry my shopping to the car, and the dentist receptionist asked if I could manage the steps! I am perfectly fit, just getting unavoidably older, it feels really odd to suddenly get singled out for help. But nice.

I get that and feel free, should i make the mistake of asking you if you need help, of telling me to f-off

but it is clear from this thread that other people think differently.

But what is it you think i do? use a baby voice and very short words to say "oh my dear, are you sure you can manage, do you want help" or do you think i just prop open a door and push people through?

Other people on this thread have clearly said they appreciate help, heck i am able-bodied and fit and i am always pleased if someone holds open a door for me, or opens it for me if i have my hands full. I'm also a raging feminist - should i just shut it and open it myself to prove a point? of course not

Our society is going to hell in a handcart, a bit of interaction and politeness will go a long way.

Of course you open the door. You do that for anyone who might find it harder whether that is pushing a pram, using crutches or carrying shopping.

I always hold doors and open doors for people who might struggle (pushchairs etc), I even offered to help a woman lift the front of a wheelchair when she was struggling to get it up a curb (she rudely told me to f off she was perfectly capable of pushing her mother around... despite the fact that she had tried several times to get up the curb and was clearly struggling). However I have been holding a toddler with a broken leg in an aeroplane queue and physically pushed to one side so people could get their seats.... people are selfish a-holes, I try to be the change.

I get that you are being nice but do you not get that it can be quite demolising when people decide that a disabled person is incapable of doing something and insist on helping? Why do you feel you know what they need better than they do. I'm not talking about opening doors but I really don't want strangers holding my stuff or taking the dog lead etc.

tbh take what i last wrote with a massive pinch of salt.

I will continue to ask people if i think they are struggling, and if they find that patronising? i suspect it won't be as many who say something like "yes, if you could hold that door/bag/dog lead for me" and we all go on our merry way. If someone does feel patronised? they can feel free to tell me so.

But then, i smile at people, i say good morning/afternoon/evening and thank you to bus drivers and i am not a complete idiot.

I have read your post.

Or even @oneTidyRaven apologies @Brefugee And @OneFineDay13

Yes, I feel quite grubby at the minute, so I'm going to refrain from any further involvement.

ETA: sorry Brefugee, meant to quote @OneFineDay13

Not got a value what you are talking about. Are they relevant to this thread?

Me either.

Imagine if we lived in a world where everyone saw it as their job to make things easier for those around us when we can? Wouldn't it just be nice?

ok thanks,

There were several quite... vehement pp on the last page.

I will ignore everyone in future. Until they ask.

And from what i have read here, most people won't bother - but that's not my problem, right?

You may or not have a disability, it's the Internet, you can say you're the prime minister, it doesn't make it true.

But you're clearly not a very nice person, so your opinions on how to treat others will be taken with that that in mind by anyone reading the thread.

🤭🤭🤭 of course you did 🙄

You have a child. So clearly they need help. I’m an adult. I don’t need help and if I did I would ask. I’m hardly running into roads I’m I? If you’re child is running into roads then they don’t have mobility issues do they? Disability comes in all forms, some more debilitating than others.

Ah. I was getting that impression but thank you for confirming. I'll leave them to it (and continue being a decent human being!)

Yes, you're not the only guys to be on the receiving end x

I clicked on another thread and was met by the same poster being equally obnoxious there on a completely different topic. Some people just enjoy upsetting people, and will argue any thread.

Try reading my post again.

And you don't speak for me or other disabled people. I can't relate at all to this attitude: "It’s also no one’s job to make your life easier"