Family feud

That could be in 30 or 35 years time.

If you or your DS don’t need the money immediately why make your DB homeless? The priority is the £300 extra your DM will need for her care.

I don’t agree with dodging the care home fees by misrepresenting who owns the property. These are not morals we as a family adhere too. Neither would we make one of our siblings homeless.

OP sounds like she's across all that - if they've already put the house in her name for historic reasons around a business, which presumably involved its own legal dance, I'd have thought the time limits and legalities are all covered so that it's not a deprivation of assets. Or that the OP is aware of it all at the very least.

When your DM goes into care, the Council would normally sell the house to pay for it but as the house is now in your name this could be classed as deprivation of assets.

I don't know why people are treating DB as though he is some kind of saint. He's lived there for 20 years on a low rent, still manages to have debts, and is expecting his sisters to sub him even though they've not had his advantages (as eldest son, inheritance wise). Sure he's been there for his mum in this last phase, but that's a side-effect of him living their for his own ends for many years. I think OP is right to be pragmatic about the whole thing, prioritise care for her mum and the DB needs to sort out his long-term situation. He's been putting it off for long enough, assuming his mum and sisters would sort it out for him. Better to be clear, without being cruel, and have a proper plan in place going forward. Him being allowed to stay on for a few years is not a plan. It just kicks the can down the road as he's been doing for two decades and could do indefinitely unless his more organised sisters take the reigns and manage this.

Has your mum been paying you market rate rent? If she just moved the house into your name then the council will likely see it as deprivation of assets and require it to be sold to provide for her care.

It isn’t just as simple as shifting stuff into a family members name. If it was, we’d all be doing it.

I think you are being very unfair on your DB he works all day then goes home and deals with your mum all night.... and your talking about kicking him out.... Your comfortable in life so why on earth would you not want to help your brother out?

If your mother goes into full time care her asset's will be assessed, as she has continued to live in the property without paying you rent it will be deemed to be a contrived transaction, hence ignored by the local authority, the house will have to be sold to pay for her care, after all why should the rest of us have to pay for her while her offspring shower themselves in ill gotten cash.

When was your mother's house put in your name?
How many years?
Worry about deprivation of assets first.

Then put a good chunk aside for your mother's expenses.

Split evenly 3 ways but then deduct whatever the place in Greece is worth from your brother's share.

You've got kids to think about.
Old brother isn't your concern.

This!

You’re screwing the UK taxpayer into funding your mother’s care when she should be paying for it herself, and all the while complaining about your brother.

My relatives care home (residential not nursing or dementia care) was 6k a month when they died 4 years ago, probably at least 7k if not more now. I’d consider how much he has “saved” you being there to enable your mother to live “independently”
You also need to be careful if it is your house and they are your tenants, there are an ever increasing list of legal obligations you have to them that you’d be wise to have not breached. Electrical checks, gas, EPC etc. all need to be up to date whoever your tenant is.

I’m inclined to feel the same op.

He is your older brother, he has been helpful in a very practical way to the family, you don’t need the house.

I would also get legal advice about the extent to which he and your sister could challenge your inheritance if the whole if they family home is in your name.

Who paid of the mortgage on your mum's house? Your mum and your dad? If so then the house is your mum's. Yes your name is on the deeds but morelly it's your mum's if she and your dad paid for it.
If your mum is assessed and deemed needing fully funded support in a home (this takes years if you need to go through the courts to get guardianship) then what would she have wanted to do with the house?
Surely she would have wanted to ensure her son who had looked after for years had a secure roof over his head?

Stop being bitter about your brother living with your mum later in life just because you managed to buy and pay off a house.

Let him stay. He’s cared for your mom and paid all the bills. Draw up a proper tenancy and he can rent from you.

I think the kind and clever thing to do would be to allow him to stay but pay more towards your mother’s care home fees? Surely that works out cheaper than rent PLUS allows the house investment to carry on growing (rather than cashing out and not accruing any more value). Plus this is not a good time to sell. A bit baffled that you wouldn’t want to do the most lucrative thing for all involved!

Gosh it seems harsh to kick him out after all those years taking care of her. In that time house prices and rent have skyrocketed.

You might have to sell it with a sitting tenant. 2 potentially, if there's no LPA you don't get to decide about putting your mum in a home if she isn't happy with it. Equally your brother could apply to have LPA and that would complicate things.

I think you need to appreciate that having him there full time saved the 3 of you a small fortune in care and offered a load of reassurance. You could even ask him to pay the £300pm shortfall for mums incidentals in exchange for staying in the home if you didn't sell

I think you are being naive to think the government will just put your mum in a home because you think she needs it. At present she has 24 hour care plus carers. Why is this not enough. Dont forget she will have to be assessed and recieve full funding.

The bottom line is if your mum was of sound mind she would never agree to this and you know that.

Yes, this is sticking in my craw a bit. Your mother's money should be used for her care. Signing her house over to you was fraudulent, wasn't it?

I also think you could be a bit more generous to your brother, given the care he has provided and the fact that you and your sister are set up.

I'll admit I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet about inheritance. It's one of the primary drivers of inequality yet fraud in this area is somehow not frowned on in the same way as benefit fraud. You are talking about it as though it's your money, OP, but it isn't really, is it?

Surely the proceed of the sale of the house should be spent on care for your mum, that would be my first priority.

Wow i think your being awful. Your brother was good enough to put his life in hold and take over all the care of your mother and now you don't need him anymore you're chucking him on the street

Start charging the brother market rate rent for the house. A smaller place will be cheaper.

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I would be careful with this, something similar happened in my family - the rent was not paid, and then what? It ended very badly