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Being labelled unreliable as a working mum

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Positivegirl · 11/06/2025 14:32

I am absolutely working as hard as I can. Because I have to pick my child up from school I am now labelled as unreliable. I work extremely hard and I see colleagues at work completely slack, turn up late and not meet deadlines. I have been labelled as unreliable because I am a working mum. I don’t have another choice but to work, I let work know it’s half term but I still go hard I work 200% while my child is in half term and never miss a meeting or deadline. I do school drop off/pick up and run back to work. I travel for away days at work I run back to get my child and run back to the desk.

it’s never enough I’m doin the best I can and it’s heartbreaking to have people who don’t have children to tell me I’m not doing enough and that I am not reliable when I know I’m performing more than others. My project manger is always late, canceling meeting last minute and not meeting deadlines for us as a team to continue working. But I am unreliable as I leave to go pick my child up (in the hour that would be my lunch break as I don’t bother having lunch)

I feel like giving up I work for me and my child to give us a good life but I’m not doing enough there. Then in motherhood I’m working to hard.

im drained to the bone with judgment from both sides from people I know could not juggle what I do as a working single mum. Im fed up

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rosemarble · 16/06/2025 11:00

This sounds cultural - move to another company.

I very much doubt that OP would find a company that allows her the flexibility she currently has.

Hurdygurdy123 · 16/06/2025 10:54

As someone who has lined managed a span of around 50, I've always encouraged balance and flex. I believe and have seen evidence that in the rule of "give and take" the employer invariably wins if they allow some gives. Unless the role is factory floor, travelling or timetabled to some extent, I'd always allow a school run so long as the hours more or less add up, and I'd leave it to the employee to work it out too. In these enlightened days of diversity, I'm shocked by some of the opinions in this thread. I've also done and overseen a lot of project management. I'd suggest that a project manager who can't cope with a planned absence within a day isn't managing their portfolio very well. This sounds cultural - move to another company.

CantHoldMeDown · 16/06/2025 10:38

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rosemarble · 16/06/2025 10:36

Val33 · 16/06/2025 10:32

OP I'm shocked at the lack of support you are getting here. I just wanted to say I see you and totally get what you are saying and I think you are doing an amazing job. You seem like an excellent conscientious employee and a wonderful caring mother. It sounds like you have very little time for you. Running here there & everywhere to please others and keep your boss(es) happy. Society needs to stop punishing working mothers who are trying so hard to provide, especially those who don't have a partner. Well done you for getting promoted at work under these circumstances.I hope your line manager either leaves or realizes what a great job you are doing and that you figure out a better way for you and your LO. Under-appreciated for sure. Please try to ignore the harsh comments on here and don't feel the need to explain yourself. xx

Posters were trying to work out why she was being labelled as unreliable, and making (quite reasonable) suggestions as to why. OP's responses also made it quite difficult to work out what was going on (2 year old, school, amount of child care, 1/2 terms).

It turns out it's just her LM who has a problem and that OP's unusual working pattern has been approved by the CEO.

Val33 · 16/06/2025 10:32

OP I'm shocked at the lack of support you are getting here. I just wanted to say I see you and totally get what you are saying and I think you are doing an amazing job. You seem like an excellent conscientious employee and a wonderful caring mother. It sounds like you have very little time for you. Running here there & everywhere to please others and keep your boss(es) happy. Society needs to stop punishing working mothers who are trying so hard to provide, especially those who don't have a partner. Well done you for getting promoted at work under these circumstances.I hope your line manager either leaves or realizes what a great job you are doing and that you figure out a better way for you and your LO. Under-appreciated for sure. Please try to ignore the harsh comments on here and don't feel the need to explain yourself. xx

vickylou78 · 16/06/2025 10:08

Needspaceforlego · 15/06/2025 21:40

It's not just the school pick up. It's the half hearted working from 3-5pm as she's multi tasking.

Companies might be prepared to flex to help parents but there's a line were they end up feeling they are getting the urine extracted from their goodwill.

Agree with this...it's very different collecting a 11 or 12 year old from school and a 2 year old. You literally need eyes in back of head to look after a 2 year old. There's no way that she is able to work properly and look after a 2 year old.

Needspaceforlego · 15/06/2025 21:40

BluesBird19764 · 15/06/2025 16:25

In this day and age I disagree. It’s very common in my experience for companies to be flexible around regular commitments like school pick up etc. there are lots of businesses that value a happy, settled workforce and prioritise work life balance rather than just bums in seats.

It's not just the school pick up. It's the half hearted working from 3-5pm as she's multi tasking.

Companies might be prepared to flex to help parents but there's a line were they end up feeling they are getting the urine extracted from their goodwill.

BluesBird19764 · 15/06/2025 16:25

Srubag · 11/06/2025 14:38

It doesn’t really matter what your reason is and if you think it is more or less valid than a colleagues if you aren’t pulling your weight then you aren’t pulling your weight.

If you are disappearing every day to do the school run, I don’t think many employers would believe thrilled. If everyone is having to arrange their diaries and meetings around your childcare commitments I can see why they don’t think you are particularly invested in the job.

In this day and age I disagree. It’s very common in my experience for companies to be flexible around regular commitments like school pick up etc. there are lots of businesses that value a happy, settled workforce and prioritise work life balance rather than just bums in seats.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 14:17

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 14:13

There’s nothing to agree over.

It’s a fact that the CMS is not fit for purpose. The OP had already mentioned the sperm doner wanted to be NOTHINV more than one so she‘a more than likely already gone that route and found it’s not as easy as many seem to think it is unless he’s a willing participant in the process (if we had prison sentences etc for this shit like in many US states, that would be fabulous - but men are just allowed to get away with it over here if they wish to evade)

Why do you insist on having the last word?

Suggest additional cats from a local farm.

I don't, you won, I apologised.
P.S. farm cats would not be tollerated by my very useless cats, one of them is old and is very grumpy with his teritory. Except for the pigeons. Pigeons are fine creatures to watch from the safety of the decking, everything else he gets grumpy at!

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 14:13

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 14:08

I did not put words in your mouth at any point. I said that is not certitude whether the OP seek this possibility, hence I asked. Op did not confirm she seeked maintanance. Hence, I asked, and you started arguing. Seriously, drop it, we will not come to am agreement and that is fine. We are allowed to have different opinion. I defended my statement you deffended yours. Good. Let it go, is all good with me. Look after yourself. Btw, the pigeons story is true, ny husband runs like a manic in the garden and my two very useless cats sit and watch him with amazement. Is quite hilarious! Peace 😊

There’s nothing to agree over.

It’s a fact that the CMS is not fit for purpose. The OP had already mentioned the sperm doner wanted to be NOTHINV more than one so she‘a more than likely already gone that route and found it’s not as easy as many seem to think it is unless he’s a willing participant in the process (if we had prison sentences etc for this shit like in many US states, that would be fabulous - but men are just allowed to get away with it over here if they wish to evade)

Why do you insist on having the last word?

Suggest additional cats from a local farm.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 14:11

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 14:02

Really?

Not my problem if you put words in my mouth. And it’s perfectlg oj gif jd to point out if someone has.

Peace.

And I apologise if I upset you.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 14:08

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 14:02

Really?

Not my problem if you put words in my mouth. And it’s perfectlg oj gif jd to point out if someone has.

Peace.

I did not put words in your mouth at any point. I said that is not certitude whether the OP seek this possibility, hence I asked. Op did not confirm she seeked maintanance. Hence, I asked, and you started arguing. Seriously, drop it, we will not come to am agreement and that is fine. We are allowed to have different opinion. I defended my statement you deffended yours. Good. Let it go, is all good with me. Look after yourself. Btw, the pigeons story is true, ny husband runs like a manic in the garden and my two very useless cats sit and watch him with amazement. Is quite hilarious! Peace 😊

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 14:02

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:59

I have 2 lovely chery trees the pigeons keep eating the fruit. Come here please and fight with them, you could get your fighting out of the system and I can keep my cherries. Win-win!

Really?

Not my problem if you put words in my mouth. And it’s perfectlg oj gif jd to point out if someone has.

Peace.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:59

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:56

I couldn’t agree more.

I cannot control if you decide to put words into my mouth.

I have 2 lovely chery trees the pigeons keep eating the fruit. Come here please and fight with them, you could get your fighting out of the system and I can keep my cherries. Win-win!

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:56

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:55

That does not equal certitude nor was it confirmed by OP. Hence, why I asked. Peace

Edited

I couldn’t agree more.

I cannot control if you decide to put words into my mouth.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:55

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:43

No. Not assumed - likely the scenario. Certainly a very strong possibility.

That does not equal certitude nor was it confirmed by OP. Hence, why I asked. Peace

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:43

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:34

I asked if it was explored as an option. Stop the hate, is fine, seeiously. OP said dad does not want to pay, nothing more. You assumed the rest. Chill!

No. Not assumed - likely the scenario. Certainly a very strong possibility.

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:42

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:34

I asked if it was explored as an option. Stop the hate, is fine, seeiously. OP said dad does not want to pay, nothing more. You assumed the rest. Chill!

Challenge is now ‘hate’?

Good grief

rosemarble · 15/06/2025 13:42

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:34

I asked if it was explored as an option. Stop the hate, is fine, seeiously. OP said dad does not want to pay, nothing more. You assumed the rest. Chill!

Collect and Pay is a service many parents have used to claim maintenance from an unwilling /uncooperative parent.
I know it has its limitations (self employed parents, those who leave the country) but it has helped for many.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 13:34

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:26

Oh my goodness.

The toxic positivity just keeps on coming.

Reading something on Google is not the same of thousands of women’s experiences with CMS. THE CMS IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

OP has already said that dad wants no involvement - and likely she will have tried CMS/pursuing it.

I didn't receive a Penny. Ever. And there was nothing I could do about it apart from cut my child’s losses and do the best I could with the cards I’d been given.

If you’ve not lived it, don’t try to tell others how to do it.

I asked if it was explored as an option. Stop the hate, is fine, seeiously. OP said dad does not want to pay, nothing more. You assumed the rest. Chill!

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 13:26

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 12:43

I genuinely asked if the option was explored. OP did not mention anything about this so I asked. I googled and came with this
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7774/
It is enforcable. You don't know untill you explore the option, you can't go "oh I won't botter coz CMS is shit" this attitude will take you nowhere

Oh my goodness.

The toxic positivity just keeps on coming.

Reading something on Google is not the same of thousands of women’s experiences with CMS. THE CMS IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

OP has already said that dad wants no involvement - and likely she will have tried CMS/pursuing it.

I didn't receive a Penny. Ever. And there was nothing I could do about it apart from cut my child’s losses and do the best I could with the cards I’d been given.

If you’ve not lived it, don’t try to tell others how to do it.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 12:43

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 12:38

You cannot (in this country) force a parent who doesn’t want to pay because the CMS is not fit for purpose.

I genuinely asked if the option was explored. OP did not mention anything about this so I asked. I googled and came with this
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7774/
It is enforcable. You don't know untill you explore the option, you can't go "oh I won't botter coz CMS is shit" this attitude will take you nowhere

Flanger · 15/06/2025 12:42

Starlight1984 · 11/06/2025 16:46

This is absolutely bonkers. If we found out at work that any of the WFH staff were looking after children (and toddlers at that!) whilst they were working, they would be sacked.

What about if you worked in the office? What would you do then? Or in a supermarket? Or any other place of work?

You're taking advantage of the fact you are at home and are trying to be both an employee and a parent for 2-3 hours every afternoon and it really isn't on. You're saying you are available to answer the phone? What about if your toddler falls over? Or goes to put something in their mouth that they shouldn't? Or starts crying? Do you hang up the phone? Or continue on a work call with a toddler in the background?

Also, saying your CEO is "ok" with it and understands. Well clearly not if they are calling you unreliable....

Yeah exactly she’s taking the piss

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 12:38

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 12:36

Well I don't know, I asked if the option was explored as the OP did not mention anything about this. Do you know she had difficulty in getting maintanance? How do you know that? Did she try? At the end of the day, is society responsable for someone's bad choices? As usually, is easy to find problems in solutions and any sensible sugestion and closed it down before is even explored, because "we don't know how hard it is".

You cannot (in this country) force a parent who doesn’t want to pay because the CMS is not fit for purpose.

Missanimosity · 15/06/2025 12:36

spicemaiden · 15/06/2025 12:11

If you have no idea why a man may be not paying child maintenance then I can only think you have been fortunate enough to not find out exactly how utterly useless the uk child maintenance service is (of havent had to try to get child support out of a man who has fucked if to another country)

Bd glad you are clueless.

Well I don't know, I asked if the option was explored as the OP did not mention anything about this. Do you know she had difficulty in getting maintanance? How do you know that? Did she try? At the end of the day, is society responsable for someone's bad choices? As usually, is easy to find problems in solutions and any sensible sugestion and closed it down before is even explored, because "we don't know how hard it is".