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Being labelled unreliable as a working mum

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Positivegirl · 11/06/2025 14:32

I am absolutely working as hard as I can. Because I have to pick my child up from school I am now labelled as unreliable. I work extremely hard and I see colleagues at work completely slack, turn up late and not meet deadlines. I have been labelled as unreliable because I am a working mum. I don’t have another choice but to work, I let work know it’s half term but I still go hard I work 200% while my child is in half term and never miss a meeting or deadline. I do school drop off/pick up and run back to work. I travel for away days at work I run back to get my child and run back to the desk.

it’s never enough I’m doin the best I can and it’s heartbreaking to have people who don’t have children to tell me I’m not doing enough and that I am not reliable when I know I’m performing more than others. My project manger is always late, canceling meeting last minute and not meeting deadlines for us as a team to continue working. But I am unreliable as I leave to go pick my child up (in the hour that would be my lunch break as I don’t bother having lunch)

I feel like giving up I work for me and my child to give us a good life but I’m not doing enough there. Then in motherhood I’m working to hard.

im drained to the bone with judgment from both sides from people I know could not juggle what I do as a working single mum. Im fed up

OP posts:
rosemarble · 12/06/2025 11:05

Positivegirl · 11/06/2025 21:41

this thread has been crazy. I’m unreliable because I’m not down the pub and I can’t dedicate every 24hrs of my day to “the cause”. Some people’s friends and work are all in one so it’s hard to understand others have lives. I was feeling frustrated because I am doing the best I can as a mother. But this thread has really knocked me back into remembering what a boss mum I am

I don't know a single person (parent or non parent) who is available to work 24hrs a day or feels they are not doing their job well because they are not at the pub.

It seems that your line manager has unrealistic expectations or maybe has a personal grievance with you. I don't know how you then extrapolate that to "the whole world thinks working mothers are unreliable"

rosemarble · 12/06/2025 11:02

Positivegirl · 11/06/2025 20:57

I think the consensus is to quit so I’m not working and looking after my child. And instead go on UC funded by other working parents like @CantHoldMeDown

Consensus from whom? MN posters or your employer? I don't think anyone here has suggested you quit your job. Most are asking you to clarify your agreed working hours/pattern, what your contract states, who exactly is making you feel so bad and then suggesting things you could do.

You have repeatedly said you're doing your hours, the CEO has no problem etc, so I don't really understand what the issue is.

Needspaceforlego · 12/06/2025 11:01

@Positivegirl do you have family who could help?

Needspaceforlego · 12/06/2025 10:49

BCSurvivor · 12/06/2025 10:27

This, definitely.
And what happens during school holidays???

And even more so if it's someone who works for you and you are picking up the slack.

Op needs to get something in place for summer.

ClosetBasketCase · 12/06/2025 10:49

Positivegirl · 11/06/2025 19:12

I work 40 hrs I have one child and after school run little one is home with me. Dad not wish to be involved or pay.

there is no free after school clubs and I can’t afford out of hours child care. Family friend can not help

I calculated bein on universal credit. I won’t be able to cover rent food heating bills and emergencies.

im on my own so its my money to pay for living I also have furniture and fridge washing machine ect on monthly payment. As I had no savings to furnish.

hopefully this answers orioles questions

Ok,

So the not wishing to pay part is fixable - go through the courts and get a maintainance order. He has a responsability to pay for his child. Unless he has signed away his parental rights? As then thats a different matter.

BCSurvivor · 12/06/2025 10:27

BountifulPantry · 11/06/2025 21:54

I’d be pretty annoyed if a colleague clocked off at 3pm and I was having to stay until 5 for the same pay.

This, definitely.
And what happens during school holidays???

CleverButScatty · 12/06/2025 10:14

summerscomingsoon · 11/06/2025 20:42

Or like thousands of others just get on with it. Work the hours we are contracted to work and don't take the piss pretending to work when spending every afternoon looking after our 2 year old.

If you are that sure of your ceo and hr support get them to put in writing that they are happy fir you to be paid a full time salary whilst looking after your child every afternoon. If that's fine then they will and there is no issue. They will tell your manager to stop harrasin g you as they are happy fir yju to get paid every afternoon whilst looking after your child. You then have it in writing and you can carry on without this worry.

Job done.

You're just being rude for the sake of it.

Needspaceforlego · 12/06/2025 09:42

Pipsquiggle · 12/06/2025 08:44

The more I think about your predicament @Positivegirl I would just ignore colleagues and whatever they say unless it is brought up in a formal review process.

Ideally you would have childcare that covers all your hours of work. The world isn't ideal. Until this is brought up by your company as a concern just keep quiet.

Once someone starts a formal review process, that can really be with a view to managing the out the business. And it's very difficult to come back from that.

I wouldn't wait for that to happen because they can very easily make things difficult, putting in meetings when she's not available, issuing impossible targets and bang she's out the door.

Op needs to find some way of properly managing her work load and her child. Doing 2 things at once just doesn't work.

She's got a few weeks until summer, she needs to sort something, before summer, Childminder, babysitting exchanges with other parents.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 12/06/2025 09:30

If this is for real, I think that there are actually issues about OP'S availability.

Marketing can be very fast paced and have a lot of ad hock meetings and some last minute changes.... I think clocking off every day early can impact the job. People will notice and may well have raised concerns. Obviously, her colleagues will have to sort that kind of stuff themselves rather than her. Its something they might prefer to raise with the line manager rather than OP if it's reoccurring. I Think if OP has been with the company for 2 years, but not very long in this particular role.
In OP'S shoes, I'd listen to the line manager and get more paly with my colleagues in order to continue this amazing arrangement!

Pipsquiggle · 12/06/2025 08:44

The more I think about your predicament @Positivegirl I would just ignore colleagues and whatever they say unless it is brought up in a formal review process.

Ideally you would have childcare that covers all your hours of work. The world isn't ideal. Until this is brought up by your company as a concern just keep quiet.

ScaryM0nster · 12/06/2025 08:38

Fundamentally - you’ve chosen to juggle a full time job without full time child care.

That may be the right answer for you (and sounds like you’ve concluded it is) but it comes with consequences. The main one being it is incredibly obvious to colleagues that you’re juggling and multitasking a lot of the time.

That doesn’t mean that you can’t deliver in your role, but it does mean that you very easily appear to be not as committed and available as others who are in a position to give work 100% of their attention during normal working hours. Even if those people often don’t, it’s obvious to others that they could if called upon. Whereas it’s obvious to everyone that you can’t always do that.

Doesn’t necessarily mean you’re doing anything wrong, if you’re complying with your organisations policies and any individual contract variation you’ve got (although keep in mind that a lot of employers policies around home working mean that your current arrangement wouldn’t be acceptable, so on a public board the reactions you get will be impacted by that).

It does however mean that you’ll need to take observations about your availability on the chin. You’re not as available as others. That’s a compromise you’ve made. If it works for you overall, great. But as part of that you need to find a way to take the comments about it. It gets easier with time.

Whatafustercluck · 12/06/2025 08:37

It sounds really tough, op, I'm sorry. Are you entitled to more than the 15 hours of free childcare? From September, you'll have 30 hours free which may help improve things.

I work in project management. I understand the environment you're working in, and it can be very pressured. Meetings have to fit around key people's availability and for most people, lunchtime is an hour between 12 and 2. Business needs therefore are that meetings take place from 9 till 12, or 2 till 5. If you're collecting your child routinely when others are available for meetings, then this doesn't meet business needs. It's also unlikely that when you've collected your child you're actually 'present' because a toddler/ preschooler can't be left alone. You end up doing neither your job nor parenting particularly well, and it's incredibly stressful for you. You sound close to burning out.

Our childminder is on leave this week, so I'm sharing school drop offs/ pick ups with dh. And it's hard work, despite flagging it with work and dd being 8! I can't imagine doing this on a long term basis with such a young child and tbh I understand where your manager is coming from on this. I work with a colleague who is a single mum to two. Her response is always "sorry, can't because of childcare" - even though her two spend 50% of their time with her ex. It's a bit grating tbh, but then she's not really much of a team player or a proactive forward planner anyway.

From what you've said, you're trying your best in difficult circumstances. Do you demonstrate to your line manager how you're proactively managing your time to deliver what is needed, when the business needs it? If you're just quietly running yourself ragged without actively telling your LM how you're managing your workload, then that may be part of the problem. This happens a lot when people wfh because if you're quiet/ silent then people will think you're not working and instead looking after your child.

Ultimately, I think you have to face facts that this environment isn't working for you, your child, or your employer. Would you consider a change of job, entering a different industry?

Shinyandnew1 · 12/06/2025 08:08

Have you said how many hours a week your child is in nursery?

NewShoesForSpring · 12/06/2025 07:59

isolate34 · 12/06/2025 07:24

Op are you absolutely sure you've been totally honest about your arrangement to your employers?? On here you keep saying school which actually it's a nursery aged child etc, it's like you're being deliberately vague. No employer is going to be okay with you being in sole charge of a 2 year old for 3 hours every day, that is taking the piss op and you know it. You're going to have to submit a flexi working request to make time up in the evenings etc or something.

I agree with you & also suspect op has not been fully honest with work about her exact arrangements. She's been pretty slippery on this thread alone & despite being asked several times by several people to outline her working day + her child's nursery hours, she's absolutely avoided answering

From this i deduce she's had equally vague conversations with the CEO (& if this 'arrangement' was made starting the job 2 years ago as op said and the child is 2 years ago then op either started this job pregnant or with a new born?) But now her line manager has taken notice & is not happy because op is essentially clocking off daily at 3pm to collect & look after her toddler.

I too think she's on thin ice here

Loopytiles · 12/06/2025 07:56

It’s unusual for organisations to allow hours worked whilst parenting a 2 year old, 5 days a week, to count as working time. On top of an hour every day, during core business hours, for pick up. Your CEO sounds very flexible.

Understandable that your line manager dislikes the arrangement, since it means you’re not fully available for part of the day every working day, although her handling / comments sound poor.

In your shoes I wouldn’t have complained to the CEO about your manager since this just draws further attention to the high flexibility / exception you have, which could be withdrawn.

it’s a problem that you haven’t got child maintenance from your ex.

Snoken · 12/06/2025 07:53

isolate34 · 12/06/2025 07:24

Op are you absolutely sure you've been totally honest about your arrangement to your employers?? On here you keep saying school which actually it's a nursery aged child etc, it's like you're being deliberately vague. No employer is going to be okay with you being in sole charge of a 2 year old for 3 hours every day, that is taking the piss op and you know it. You're going to have to submit a flexi working request to make time up in the evenings etc or something.

But also, the preschool is closed during school holidays so then it's full days/weeks of working/looking after a 2 year old. I think that is a much bigger issue. There is no way you can make up the work when the child is asleep if you have missed a full 8 hour day.

CantHoldMeDown · 12/06/2025 07:45

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FedupofArsenalgame · 12/06/2025 07:42

Positivegirl · 11/06/2025 19:20

@Namechangetry i think your not understanding. If I drop hours or go to UC it’s not going to cover my monthly outgoings. I don’t see why you don’t understand

i have payment plans as I didn’t have upfront payments saved. So dropping hours means I’m not paying my bills

If you either drop hours OR get extra childcare you may get universal credit to make up the difference/ help with costs

Try running your current wages PLUS the costs of extra childcare through a benefits calculator.

Then try running it through with current childcare costs and lower hours

TBH it's you that doesn't seem to be able to get what people are saying. I'm actually confused how you are in a high enough position at work to set your own calendar yet don't seem to understand basic stuff

Also look at your expenses. For example exactly how long can it take to pay off a washing machine? You can buy one outright for £200. Anywhere else you could make savings to pay for the childcare you need?

isolate34 · 12/06/2025 07:24

Op are you absolutely sure you've been totally honest about your arrangement to your employers?? On here you keep saying school which actually it's a nursery aged child etc, it's like you're being deliberately vague. No employer is going to be okay with you being in sole charge of a 2 year old for 3 hours every day, that is taking the piss op and you know it. You're going to have to submit a flexi working request to make time up in the evenings etc or something.

CocoPlum · 12/06/2025 07:11

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/06/2025 21:11

so many people banging on about contracted hours.

The OP's CEO has made it clear that he/she is paying to do a job and as long as the job is done, he/she doesnt care about the rest of the time. The OP has made it clear that there are time when the workload is very heavy, where she has to work more hours. So I would imagine that over a year it evens out.

Just because some work places insist on "bums on seats" regardless of actual workload, doesnt mean all do.

Sounds like some of you are jealous that the OP has a pretty sweet deal!

I understand this however @Positivegirl keeps saying she can't afford any childcare so she only appears to use the 15 hours a week, which means for the remaining 25 hours of her working week the toddler is home with her.

She is avoiding the question of school holidays, as her preschool does school hours, so is presumably closed.

There's sitting at your desk for hours doing nothing because you work efficiently and you have to be seen, and there's having a 40 hour contract and spending most of it caring for your child instead.

Digdongdoo · 12/06/2025 06:53

Are you sure you can't claim UC whilst in work? As a single mum you may well be entitled to some help? Have you checked?
As your DC goes to preschool, what do you do over the summer holidays?
You should get 30 hours childcare in September so that should help a bit. You should start looking into a nursery or childminder who covers your working hours.

Pipsquiggle · 12/06/2025 05:53

It is clear you have a manager problem.
Can you engineer a move away from this person?
No one is saying quit and go onto UC.

Some people are saying, like me, that it is very hard to change people's stances when something is 'set' in their brain even when all the evidence says otherwise. There is very little you can do.

I would make sure that you are not self sabotaging yourself. You've interpreted some points on here pretty bizarrely/extremely and this is obviously a hypersensitive area for you. It's understandable, I used to be a bit like this when my DC were young. I wanted to make sure to be 'seen' I was mucking in. I just don't care anymore. I do my work in the agreed timeframe. I am very lucky that now I work in a place where flexible working is common.

Miyagi99 · 12/06/2025 00:58

Greenfitflop · 11/06/2025 21:07

This.
I think you have every right to feel targeted and singled out.
Ask for clarification as this is adding stress to your life that is unreasonable and unwarranted.

You sound amazing OP.
It is very difficult juggling work and single parenting.
Mind yourself and ignore the usual nasty posts that love to give a kicking to a struggling woman.

It is a consistently unpleasant theme on MN, which is very tedious.

There’s a difference between bums in seats and being paid to look after your two year old.

vickylou78 · 12/06/2025 00:36

Op please also think of your DD. She should have your full attention when she is awake..think about reducing your hours or increasing childcare for her benefit. I know it's expensive. I basically earned nothing when my kids were in nursery as almost my whole salary went on childcare but it gets easier when they get to school and you've only got after-school club to pay for!

vickylou78 · 12/06/2025 00:33

Op you are mentioning the CEO being fine with it but your line manager not fine with it. So if you are clocking off at 3pm every day or having lunch break between 3 and 4pm each day- has your CEO approved this in writing? Because if they haven't..I can see why your line manager is worried.

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