AIBU to feel sorry for Wynne Evans?

Jumping back on this again....

Wynne Evans and fiancée have split up. It happened a few weeks ago but the papers have only just published a few days ago. I guess they had no evidence, but now they've unfollowed each other and his engagement post is gone, they can now speculate. I'm glad she knows the truth about him and had a lucky escape.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14871725/amp/Wynne-Evans-sparks-fears-hes-split-new-fianc-e-Liz-Brookes-unfollowing-deleting-engagement-Instagram-post.html

Not read whole thread, but re. people saying Katya didn't complain, etc - she's still not fully recovered reputation-wise from that whole kiss debacle. I'd say the last thing she'd want would be to be at the centre of another scandal. Whatever her personal feelings, I'd have been astonished if she'd made a song and dance (no pun intended!) about it all.

The Telegraph has a brilliant review of his show with comments that give more balance compared with the fawning stuff on his own social media;
https://archive.ph/QqgmO
Burning your boats in the industry isn't the brightest idea and if he thinks the BBC will come running back, he's very seriously delusional.

James Jordan speaks out in support of Wynne Evans

https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/837815/james-jordan-makes-statement-on-wynne-evans/

Very well said, a brilliant post.

Some very good points above RE media and MH!

I just don't agree that Evans has done anything wrong except being stupid by playing about with pranks with Katya and Jamie, and not realising the connotations of his choice of words. His contract not being renewed probably fits that behaviour, on reflection.

But he doesn't deserve to be labelled a disgusting creep and put into the same box as sexual predators and offenders. It's a scale and I agree with PP.

But we're all allowed different opinions - it's been interesting to see the different interpretations on the thread!

I just think the media and the BBC have been the manipulative ones - not Evans.

If he had killed himself, I wonder what backlash there would have been, and whatever mistakes he's made he doesn't deserve to be made to feel that way.

Just think of poor Caroline Flack.

My post about his alleged finances WERE based on knowledge not conjecture

People find it hard to accept that have been manipulated by WE some will view this as a weakness

its isn't a weakness we can all be manipulated this is how he operates, as I mentioned before as so many sexual predatory and bullying men do

This is totally correct. Add to the mix, this Strictly season was coming off the back of major issues for female dancers. BBC could not afford for this to happen again, it would have been the end of the show, because they promised they had made it so these things can’t happen.

If this was merely a joke, played out in front of the cameras, then any willing participant deserves their contract to be cancelled. Anyone could predict it would lead to negative press and social media attention, particularly because of the previous scandals. As a show regular, Katya must have known that and if she was part of it, she shouldn’t be asked back. From the BBC’s point of view though, firing him makes a cleaner break because if they fired her, all she has to do is go public saying she was the victim. If he thinks that’s an appropriate way to behave, even in jest, in front of the cameras at that time, he is a risk to the BBC and deserves to be fired whether it was a joke or not.

Goodness, I really must be out of touch. Yet another individual referenced in a thread whom I’m unaware of in any way. 😳

But whoever he may be, you don’t sound very sorry for him at all, OP.

Why was WE allowed to go on SCD after

"The MoS can instead disclose that BBC Wales staff raised the seven separate grievances between July 2023 and August 2024, including a period after Evans, 53, was approached to appear on last year's Strictly Come Dancing.
Four of the complaints were made before he joined Strictly, raising questions over why the dance show's producers signed him up.
Three more were made after he had been chosen for the show."

Yes, it's from the Mail but does anyone really think they're making it up out of nowhere?

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised about the BBC yet again getting it very badly wrong.

Maybe that's the crux of it - I do believe what Katya has (repeatedly) said, that it was pre-planned/agreed.

And I accept his explanations of his comments being out of context; so I don't think he's a creep.

Do I think he's behaved brilliantly? No. 😂

But the REAL creeps deserve judgement and punishment.

It's not exactly the same, no. It's a matter of degree. No-one is accusing Evans of being violent or aggressive. His "handsy" groping - that we all saw, live on TV, - is low-level, overly-familiar, tediously boring, entitled male bullshit.

But we all saw it! And we all saw the explanation video afterwards.

So, do I believe that Katya was telling the truth when she said it was all a pre-planned joke? No, I do not.

Interesting posts Romvalley

again its calls into to question why the BBC will put viewing figures above integrity and more importantly keeping staff safe

His manipulation is becoming more and more transparent. The use of suffering from poor mh or having a diagnosis of depression/anxiety is used far to often to excuse or to divert attention from sexual predatory behaviour and bullying by men. Its classic manipulation tactics. He (along with a number of other high profile men) may suffer from depression/anxiety that does not excuse or give reason to explain his/their behaviour

@TheWonderhorse And also I feel I need to point out that beyond one poster in one comment, you are the only person who keeps repeatedly using the word predator.

Everything I have said I have backed up.

If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt that’s up to you.

Resorting to a patronising response like you have just made to try and provoke though is extremely childish.

Oh! Blimey! Thanks! I just assumed he was a random person who did that advert and then was never seen again! Had no idea he was an actual opera singer and he's still around!! Thanks, I'll have to look him up!

That's not the same thing is it.

You just prefer to believe the alternative.

It's bewildering to me that if I'm not willing to call him a predator then I'm a fan. There's a whole world of middle ground of opinion that people can't cope with. I've had more thoughtful and sensible discussions with my 9 year old, honestly.

Again, I can't take someone's written opinion on an anonymous forum as evidence for or against what Wynne is guilty of. What I am objecting to is people claiming to know the whole story, despite a lack of evidence. If you can't back up what you're saying then what you're saying is silly.

😂 No, he’s Z list. Very few people knew who he was before Strictly.