Dog lovers aren’t animal lovers

I agree. I was in the vets the other day and there was a French Bulldog, it’s inability to breathe was distressing to hear.

I have a colleague who recently bought a cockapoo and talks about it constantly. Real dog lovers wouldn’t go anywhere near these breeds.

I always feel sorry for indoor cats as well, what a dull life they have.

Yes, thank you. I wonder if the PP scrutinises every aspect of her life, to check whether her morals exactly align with everything she does in her life. I can only imagine how mentally exhausting that must be, not to mention very insular thinking.

How do you know that’s what they mean? Or are you just making assumptions?

You can love animals and be aware that they have another purpose other than to please us and look cute.

I love dogs and I have a cockapoo (amongst other breeds). When I managed to convince my partner we needed a another dog part of the deal was he picked the breed.

What's wrong with a cockapoo?

Do you breed malinoises?

It's not clear what point you're making here. It does seem like a logical fallacy to describe yourself as an 'animal lover' when what you actually mean is that you have an identity based on adoration of a very small and specific subset of animals, domestic pets.

She’s not bitchy about dog ownership though, only about how so many pet owners don’t care about animal welfare. And it’s true. They don’t - the amount of people who come to me asking for a puppy when they work full time and have young children is staggering. Those people should not even be considering a dog, yet they give me a torrent of abuse when I refuse to even consider placing them on my wait list. Those aren’t animal lovers, as OP rightly states. They’re fashion buyers.

I love dogs and I have a cockapoo (amongst other breeds). When I managed to convince my partner we needed a another dog part of the deal was he picked the breed.

What's wrong with a cockapoo?

I agree. I was in the vets the other day and there was a French Bulldog, it’s inability to breathe was distressing to hear.

I have a colleague who recently bought a cockapoo and talks about it constantly. Real dog lovers wouldn’t go anywhere near these breeds.

I always feel sorry for indoor cats as well, what a dull life they have.

Well, I hope you apply that philosophy to every aspect of your life. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?

Oh yes, they both staring at me because I'm eating 😆

What bugs me is all these ‘animal lovers’ claim that they love dogs, animals but they still continue to eat animals, wear animals like leather and continue to use products that test on animals without a care.

You CANNOT love animals but be choosy about which ones are worthy to be loved and what ones are not worthy so they end up on your plate.

Not quite. If they come from purebred, papered parents, all dogs can be registered as pedigree
But…..
For a dog to win a kennel club show (and get to Crufts) it must meet the criteria set by the kennel club. The criteria appear to have been set based on looks alone with no regard to health
Therefore breeders have tried with each generation to get closer and closer to ‘perfect’ creating more and more extreme versions of a breed, with more and more health problems

Show champions command high stud fees, kudos amongst peers etc and breeders have not always put the welfare of their puppies first. You would hope an organisation running the whole system would be there to legislate in the dogs best interests. The KC in many people’s eyes have done the opposite

I love animals, including predator animals.

Humans are an animal, one with an incredibly strong pack bonding instinct - it's WHY we anthropomorphise in the first place.

Dogs have had joint attention with humans for millennia, and cats chose to domesticate themselves.

There are countless examples of animal codependency in the wild.

Although humans have altered the natural world a lot, it's part of our nature to do so. Cities are just the termite mounds of humans.

I have a lot of support for environmental causes and for humane treatment of animals, but the idea that we shouldn't act like the animals we are is a pass from me.

What bugs me is all these ‘animal lovers’ claim that they love dogs, animals but they still continue to eat animals, wear animals like leather and continue to use products that test on animals without a care.

You CANNOT love animals but be choosy about which ones are worthy to be loved and what ones are not worthy so they end up on your plate.

Oh wow, that’s horrendous!

So what we are saying is that the KC lists ‘ideal’ traits to meet the breed standard and then dogs are bred so they can be registered as a pedigree?

My lab is a working line, he will obviously need much more stimulation and exercise than a show line lab but he doesn’t have the short stocky build. But he is still KC registered?

Sorry for all the questions! I’m not really sure of the KC’s role in dog breeding so please excuse my ignorance

What bugs me is all these ‘animal lovers’ claim that they love dogs, animals but they still continue to eat animals, wear animals like leather and continue to use products that test on animals without a care.

You CANNOT love animals but be choosy about which ones are worthy to be loved and what ones are not worthy so they end up on your plate.

It's cognitive dissonance, however you want to dress it up.

What bugs me is all these ‘animal lovers’ claim that they love dogs, animals but they still continue to eat animals, wear animals like leather and continue to use products that test on animals without a care.

You CANNOT love animals but be choosy about which ones are worthy to be loved and what ones are not worthy so they end up on your plate.

Iys no different to people who become parents because they like the idea of being a parent rather than because they love kids.

They will always be good and bad parents either way. Why would it be any different for pets owners?

I do disagree about dehumanising pets though. You can never love a dog enough. Them being an animal rather than human doesn't change this. A loved dog with plenty of attention and care is almost inevitably a happy dog.

As an example, take the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel….
systematically bred to have a small,round dome shaped head deliberately to conform with the kennel clubs breed ‘ideal’
We now have a breed prone to cherry eye (the eyes popping forwards from the skull) and the below condition
“In Cavalier King Charles Spaniels, a condition called Chiari-like malformation (CLM) can lead to a mismatch between the brain and skull size, where the brain is essentially too big for the skull. This mismatch can cause the brain to herniate through the opening at the base of the skull, potentially obstructing the flow of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF). The result is a condition called syringomyelia (SM), where fluid-filled cavities develop in the spinal cord.”

You can love things and recognise that they can also have another purpose.