Dog lovers aren’t animal lovers

Oh, I presumed Malis from your land shark username. 😆

I think you are BVU there. A dog pram is the equivalent of a person getting a car/bus to their destination as it is too far to walk there.

I think it is all to easy to sneer at such things when you are not n the situation where they are a reality. My grandad had his elderly dogs in a pram, and they loved it. They still got to enjoy their walks. They just could not managed the journey to the park ontop of their actual walk. My grandad ended up using a mobility scooter himself. Also an aid that helped him get out and about.

Golden Retrievers 😁

Dog prams.

There I said it.

Nothing screams selfish like dog prams. People come out with all the bollocks about the dog being elderly and it provides a good quality of life by enabling them to get out of the house. It really doesn't. It makes them even less healthy and generally overweight. Its really just about the owner being too selfish to either let the dog go peacefully or the need to infantise the dog so much that it's actually abusive smothering.

Just wrong. Dogs should be allowed to be animals not fur babies.

I agree. I was in the vets the other day and there was a French Bulldog, it’s inability to breathe was distressing to hear.

I have a colleague who recently bought a cockapoo and talks about it constantly. Real dog lovers wouldn’t go anywhere near these breeds.

I always feel sorry for indoor cats as well, what a dull life they have.

That platitude's already been trotted out; somebody beat you to it.

I am not sure how my dog is distressed when she is fast asleep. I know what a distressed dog looks like, and mine is not that at all. I know my dog, you don't.

If one of your dogs starting pooing in their sleep, but otherwise seemed happy, when would you intervene? After just one occasion? Or three? Or ten? Where do you draw the line. Choosing when to have your dog put down is a massive undertaking as it is and everything needs to be considered. I do believe it’s better too early than too late.

I would 100% intervene, and have.

If Hen (my eldest) soiled herself in her sleep more than once and there was nothing but old age to blame, I would put her to sleep. Dogs are inherently clean. Just like cats are. You may not think they are distressed, but they almost certainly are.

Just because a dog can go on, doesn't mean it should.

That platitude's already been trotted out; somebody beat you to it.

Anyone who isn't vegan can't really be called an animal lover to be fair.

I feel the same about supposed cat lovers who buy posh breeds.

I’ve been lurking in various dog related threads recently and it’s become abundantly clear how few dog owners on MN actually love animals. Not all. But lots.

Posters not caring about health tests on parents, or the breeders experience or ability or what happens to the bitch (mother of the pups) after as their desire for expensive mix outweighs their ethics about puppy farming or dogs being born in pain with chronic health issues as a result of bad breeding. Posters admitting their dogs have soiled themselves for a year before they put their dog to sleep. No matter which way you look at it (and believe me, I understand how hard it is to say goodbye), people who love their dogs don’t let them sleep in their shit for a year. Posters not exercising their dog sufficiently or not giving it mental stimulation and then wondering why its badly behaved.

Time and time again I’ve seen posters put their desire for a dog above any morals they might have about animal welfare (including their own dogs). welfare. Honestly, it’s quite shocking how little so many posters care about their dogs, or indeed the dogs use to produce their cute puppy.

It’s not goady.

I love dogs. I have two of my own.

But would I let my dog sleep in its own faeces when it got old? No. And no one who loved their pet would do that and I think posters who think their dog ‘isn’t suffering and is happy,’ about something like that are deluded. Dogs deserve better than to wake up in their own faeces and the fact some dog owners can’t see that is disgusting.

And edit: these posters can say all they like they love their dog. They don’t. If they did they would not make it do that.

It’s as simple as people who don’t exercise their dog, buy dogs from puppy farms, buy dogs then leave them alone all day. Those people are not animal lovers.

It’s not goady.

I love dogs. I have two of my own.

But would I let my dog sleep in its own faeces when it got old? No. And no one who loved their pet would do that and I think posters who think their dog ‘isn’t suffering and is happy,’ about something like that are deluded. Dogs deserve better than to wake up in their own faeces and the fact some dog owners can’t see that is disgusting.

And edit: these posters can say all they like they love their dog. They don’t. If they did they would not make it do that.

It’s as simple as people who don’t exercise their dog, buy dogs from puppy farms, buy dogs then leave them alone all day. Those people are not animal lovers.

Don't we all look the other way regarding animal welfare when it suits us though? I've only ever adopted dogs from rescue centres and believe I do a good job looking after them and fulfilling their needs. I'm also a vegetarian, not because I have any issue with eating meat in itself but because I think it's entirely wrong to treat animals like future ingredients and not sentient beings. But then I do still drink milk knowing what that entails for the mother and calf, so I am a hypocrite too.

I’ve been lurking in various dog related threads recently and it’s become abundantly clear how few dog owners on MN actually love animals. Not all. But lots.

Posters not caring about health tests on parents, or the breeders experience or ability or what happens to the bitch (mother of the pups) after as their desire for expensive mix outweighs their ethics about puppy farming or dogs being born in pain with chronic health issues as a result of bad breeding. Posters admitting their dogs have soiled themselves for a year before they put their dog to sleep. No matter which way you look at it (and believe me, I understand how hard it is to say goodbye), people who love their dogs don’t let them sleep in their shit for a year. Posters not exercising their dog sufficiently or not giving it mental stimulation and then wondering why its badly behaved.

Time and time again I’ve seen posters put their desire for a dog above any morals they might have about animal welfare (including their own dogs). welfare. Honestly, it’s quite shocking how little so many posters care about their dogs, or indeed the dogs use to produce their cute puppy.