Dog lovers aren’t animal lovers

I had so many people telling me to breed my dog as she’s lovely. Absolutely not! She’s my pet and no way would I put her through an unnecessary pregnancy. Also have a friend who bred her cat let it get pregnant because ‘it’s a nice experience for her kids’.

Someone posted on a dog thread a while ago about her seeing someone out with a malamute/husky type dog with a jumper on! That is incredibly silly dog owner behaviour surely

What annoys me with 'poo' owners is that they really do believe the PR about being 'healthier' non-allergic etc etc. The fact that they know absolutely nothing about the breeds that are involved is staggering not even the poodle part. My dog is now 8 and I have met so many owners with various poo breeds and I don't think I have ever come across one that hasn't got an issue such as food allergies, they all seem to be fussy eaters, hyper active, resource guarding but they never seem to connect the fact that they are poorly bred designer dogs from unethical breeders.

Dog prams are also really useful for dogs who are recovering from surgery @SpaceBunniesareCool - or is that wrong too?

Do you also object to people driving their dogs for a walk? If not, why is using a pram for the same purpose a bad thing?

It’s the same as someone saying a baby gate is unnecessary for a dog when they can be absolutely necessary!

I draw the line at putting clothes on dogs, though!!

Some. By no means all. Don't believe what you read in the Daily Mail.

I think that's lovely for both her and her dog. I ignore anybody with the mindset of thinking dog prams are piss taking material. It just shows how those who reckon they are compassionate with regards to animal welfare, are far from it.

Actually no. This is true of some breeds, and, unfortunately, those are the ones that grab the headlines. There are a lot of breeds that do not have significant health problems, yet people like you lump them in with the ones have serious genetic defects.

The Kennel Club is not to blame for this and nor is Crufts. This is a very childish and uneducated viewpoint to hold.

Absolutely. Walks should be time limited for puppies due to their growing bones and joints.

I hope you have a blast with your pup's first walk. The puppy years fly by so fast.

The same is often true of cat owners. The amount of cats who appear unhappy and stressed online because of the behaviour of their owners is quite staggering. I feel sorry for all creatures who are just toys for their stupid owners. All animals should be cared for appropriately and respect given to all species.

Or if someone got a puppy but also have an older dog that needs a long walk. At least you can bring the puppy with you. They can only walk for a short amount of time even after first jabs.

Yes, or those doggy handbag things.
I do know some people with chihuahuas, and they make them walk. No hand bags for them.

I can’t wait!! Especially for when he is big enough for a proper hike!

I have considered getting a sling but can’t quite bring myself to do it! Although I may cave, but he will probably still be too heavy for me to carry even in that! It’s lucky he doesn’t wriggle!

Yes, I forgot about that too. I know puppy slings are a thing too, for unvaccinated pups, so can understand prams for the bigger breeds.

It is always exciting when they get to go out for their first proper walk 😊

Meat eaters aren't animal lovers, either.

I think it’s more that you have a specific person in mind who would use a doggy pram - those with designer breeds who treat the dog like a baby and I would agree with you on that.

But @YeOldeGreyhound mentioned a circumstance in which a dog pram would be useful. As did I. As with most things, they are a good idea in some circumstances

I agree. Personally I think it should be illegal to import these so-called "rescue dogs" from abroad. We surely have more than enough unwanted dogs in this country already, all looking to be re-homed?

You clearly support the practice of using prams. I don't.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Also if you have a big, heavy pup before they’ve been vaccinated and they can’t walk, at least you can start socialising them! My pup is pretty heavy, I can only just about walk for ten mins while carrying him and I have about 3 weeks to go before he is fully jabbed and can walk on the ground and he will
much heavier before he gets to that point!

And someone taking a dog in a pram to their favourite walk is no different to taking them in the car.

I agree with other posters about outdoor cats being cruel, outdoor cats are outdoors for the laziness of their owner. The majority of cats in Australia and America are indoor cats, they don't run the risk of being killed by predators or roads. I see at least one cat a week killed by cars here in my small town.

An indoor cat needs enrichment and it seems most cat owners are just too lazy to be bothered.

Dogs are a different species with different needs.

I've had dogs my whole life, trained them and adopted many rescue dogs. I've worked with professional dog handlers and been a strong advocate for animal welfare.

The fundamental misunderstanding that dogs are not just humans in fur coats contributes to the selfish abuse of dogs.

Dogs are amazing wonderful animals who deserve respect in and of themselves.

There is an elderly lady who goes to my local park who takes her elderly dog there in a pram. It is his favourite walk, but it is too far for him to walk there. He does get out and enjoys a sniffy walk (which dogs tend to prefer as they get older.... dogs change as they get older).
It also gets her out too. If you live alone and have few people in your life, dogs are a godsend (it is that case for me).

Nah.
I know how much I love animals. I also understand the trophic cascade and accept that I am a member of an omnivorous species.

It is entirely normal to love and enjoy animals and still eat meat.

If it is wrong for animals, then how is it not wrong for people?

Thanks 😆