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Dog lovers aren’t animal lovers

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Namechanger1993 · 11/06/2025 08:31

I’ve been lurking in various dog related threads recently and it’s become abundantly clear how few dog owners on MN actually love animals. Not all. But lots.

Posters not caring about health tests on parents, or the breeders experience or ability or what happens to the bitch (mother of the pups) after as their desire for expensive mix outweighs their ethics about puppy farming or dogs being born in pain with chronic health issues as a result of bad breeding. Posters admitting their dogs have soiled themselves for a year before they put their dog to sleep. No matter which way you look at it (and believe me, I understand how hard it is to say goodbye), people who love their dogs don’t let them sleep in their shit for a year. Posters not exercising their dog sufficiently or not giving it mental stimulation and then wondering why its badly behaved.

Time and time again I’ve seen posters put their desire for a dog above any morals they might have about animal welfare (including their own dogs). welfare. Honestly, it’s quite shocking how little so many posters care about their dogs, or indeed the dogs use to produce their cute puppy.

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tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/06/2025 18:29

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tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/06/2025 18:21

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/06/2025 18:15

You literally told me that I was going to be violent if someone approached me about my dog... which I did not say. You twisted my words.... and then said that you would not trust my judgement about my dog's health. Several times on this thread.

Yep - it's right there in black and white (multiple times over).

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/06/2025 18:15

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 12:45

Sure, the people on MN who have commented think that people shouldn't try to help a suffering animal if they think they can when they see one @tumblingdowntherabbithole I can't help that they think this but they are wrong.
And please, I have not twisted anyone's words or insulted anyone. But I am sorry, I think failing to speak up when you see a dog so very clearly in pain is shameful behaviour. You don't.

You literally told me that I was going to be violent if someone approached me about my dog... which I did not say. You twisted my words.... and then said that you would not trust my judgement about my dog's health. Several times on this thread.

fiveIsNewOne · 12/06/2025 15:53

KimberleyClark · 12/06/2025 09:43

Just like many parents don’t like children in general, only their own as part of themselves, and often let them run riot in restaurants and other inappropriate places.

Many parents acknowledge that they don't really like children in general. It isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is.

And noisy children aren't really comparable with people letting their home beasts to kill wildlife.

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 13:50

I stand corrected. You were right about the veganism @LandSharksAnonymous Not about the picking a fight but the veganism, yes.

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 13:41

Sorry wrong again @LandSharksAnonymous It was very clearly aimed at me. She quoted you having a go at me.

LandSharksAnonymous · 12/06/2025 13:39

She wasn't talking to you, @redboxer321. She was making a generic comment after agreeing you pick a fight with everyone...a point you have just proved 😂

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 13:37

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Namechanger1993 · 12/06/2025 13:35

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mondaytosunday · 12/06/2025 13:15

I really think people do not understand the time and commitment it takes with dogs. So many posters say ‘we are getting a puppy but I will only be able to take two weeks off work to settle them in’. I wouldn’t get a dog if I worked outside the home. I also waited until my children were school age so they could learn how to treat the dog.
I have had three dogs adopted from rescue as adults, but my last two were from puppies. I trained them well and none had separation anxiety or were destructive. I chose the breed wisely as well. A young family living in the city should not get a border collie or a springer spaniel unless they have hours to devote to exercise. Likewise a keen runner should not get a short nosed breed if looking for a companion. I despaired when a friend got a Weimaraner - he was far too strong for her and she could not control him. He rarely got the amount of exercise needed and was very very needy. She is much better off either the two calm dachshunds she has now.
I put my old boy to sleep last year. He went rapidly downhill and I told my kids the one thing that would really stress him was if he couldn’t get outside to toilet. He started struggling to get to standing position so I said that it’s time. People who hold on are doing the animal no favours.

LandSharksAnonymous · 12/06/2025 13:13

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redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 13:00

@LandSharksAnonymous
Sometimes saying nothing is the best approach but sorry I can't agree it was in this case. Obviously I wasn't there so I might not have said anything either. We'll never know.
I think it unlikely you would have been subjected to a tonne of abuse if you had tried to open up a conversation and see where it went from there. Can't be sure of course but you put yourself in that situation in order to potentially help the dog.

LandSharksAnonymous · 12/06/2025 12:55

@redboxer321 not my circus, not my monkeys.

If people want to buy damaged dogs, that is their problem and their expense. A bit of due diligence before buying a dog takes only a few minutes. It's laziness, incompetence and arrogance all rolled into one to buy a dog like that.

If those people cared about dogs, they would never have purchased said dog. Me saying something would have done no good and not changed a thing about that dogs outcome all it would have done is likely risk me getting a tonne of abuse levelled at me. Why would I put myself in that situation?

Sometimes the best thing is to say nothing.

Wynter25 · 12/06/2025 12:54

Stellaris22 · 11/06/2025 10:12

I have a hatred for the Kennel Club. We deliberately chose the working version of our breed as the show version would be physically incapable of doing its original job.

Training dogs to ignore other dogs is cruel. Mine says hello and plays with most dogs we meet. Obviously we ask owners first but she gets huge enjoyment from interaction and playing, they are socially intelligent as mine recognises her best friends. Dogs are social animals. If you don’t want social interaction get a cat.

Cats are social too

Wynter25 · 12/06/2025 12:52

LadyTangerine · 12/06/2025 10:36

'Why is eating meat any different to taking advantage of modern medicine to cure illness? Plenty of drugs have been tested on animals before being prescribed to humans.'

Hmm what's the difference between animals suffering so you can enjoy a pork pie or essential testing to develop medicines? I mean it isn't difficult is it, one is for greed/pleasure the other is for treatment. It's about priorities and necessities. We can live without bacon butties, we can't live without medication.

I couldn't live without bacon

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 12:51

LandSharksAnonymous · 12/06/2025 12:43

@Newpeep There's a young couple near me (literally about three doors down opposite) that have just gotten what I think must be a labradoodle. It's about 4/5 months old. When I was walking behind them the other day, I had to stop myself from saying it urgently need to go to the vets. It was so clearly effected by very severe dysplasia. I honestly give it a few months before they rehome the dog because they won't be able to afford the life-time of very expensive treatment it will need.

Some people just don't listen and they do not understand how complex these issues are. As you say, a v. well health tested pedigree can be a much safer option that a barely tested alternative.

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Why did you stop yourself?
Surely the responsible thing to do would have been to say something if you felt safe/able to do so. Might not have had any effect but I would have thought it was worth a try.
This is exactly what I'm talking about!

Wynter25 · 12/06/2025 12:49

Stellaris22 · 11/06/2025 08:43

I agree. I was in the vets the other day and there was a French Bulldog, it’s inability to breathe was distressing to hear.

I have a colleague who recently bought a cockapoo and talks about it constantly. Real dog lovers wouldn’t go anywhere near these breeds.

I always feel sorry for indoor cats as well, what a dull life they have.

My indoor cats don't have a dull life :)

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 12:45

Sure, the people on MN who have commented think that people shouldn't try to help a suffering animal if they think they can when they see one @tumblingdowntherabbithole I can't help that they think this but they are wrong.
And please, I have not twisted anyone's words or insulted anyone. But I am sorry, I think failing to speak up when you see a dog so very clearly in pain is shameful behaviour. You don't.

LandSharksAnonymous · 12/06/2025 12:43

@Newpeep There's a young couple near me (literally about three doors down opposite) that have just gotten what I think must be a labradoodle. It's about 4/5 months old. When I was walking behind them the other day, I had to stop myself from saying it urgently need to go to the vets. It was so clearly effected by very severe dysplasia. I honestly give it a few months before they rehome the dog because they won't be able to afford the life-time of very expensive treatment it will need.

Some people just don't listen and they do not understand how complex these issues are. As you say, a v. well health tested pedigree can be a much safer option that a barely tested alternative.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/06/2025 12:40

Multiple people have pulled you up on your comments now @redboxer321 and all you’ve done is twist their words and insult them, or assume you know better than them about their own animals.

Feel free to carry on though if you have nothing better to do 🤣

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 12:37

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tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/06/2025 12:26

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Funny - for someone who claims to be all about being kind to animals, you certainly don’t seem to give a shit about upsetting humans.

Also, if you hadn’t leapt in to be insulting yet again you’d have seen that I would report abuse or neglect to the relevant authorities - I wouldn’t stick my nose in and confront a total stranger in public, alone - for personal safety reasons as much as anything else.

I can only hope that you don’t confront the wrong person one day - but you don’t seem bothered about hurting people, so 🤷‍♀️

redboxer321 · 12/06/2025 12:19

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