nursery accident, ofsted?

it all depends do you think the nursery is
unsafe generally are more accidents and maybe more serious ones are likely ? Are they listening to your concerns and taking them seriously ?

reporting them with cause upset and strained relationships so are you planning on removing him to new nursery ?

id report and remove my son if I felt it was a dangerous nursery and whistle blowing was necessary otherwise simply have a chat and hopefully get reassurance

Lol I could notice a trip hazard, put it away and one of the kids get something else out that could be tripped over. That was with 2 small kids so sure it can happen with 20 odd there.

You sound as though you're looking to stir up trouble... Perhaps a little compensation claim on the side if you can get Ofsted to find fault eh?

If your kid tripped and fell at the park would you think it fair if Social Services turned up at your house the next day.

Don't do to others what you wouldn't do to yourself.

And from what I understand nursery places aren't the easiest to find so maybe think twice as nursery owners may decide to call it a day.

Well it might make them better equipped to notice hazards in the room (a chair pushed out to be tripped over, a large toy not tidied away when children are running, a cupboard door left ajar to bang into, and then newer less qualified staff not keeping an eye sufficiently on whether children are following the rules of the nursery (walking feet inside, tidy up time etc) of course common sense prevails whether you’re formally qualified or not but the point of having qualified staff in charge of the room is to oversee the running of things, have the confidence to keep things calm when children are getting unruly, and ensure preventable injuries can be mitigated as much as possible. I’d want to know what sort of set up was in place at the time of the accident and if in fact it may not have been something that was totally unavoidable.

Like most parents then when a kid trips over something and hurts themselves? By the sounds of it was just a simple accident. How would qualifications stop the child from tripping?

And that’s absolutely fine. I’m only wondering why you felt the need to make your comment a response to something I said. It’s perfectly possible to comment on a thread - and yours would have been a perfectly good addition to the thread - without doing it as direct response to someone else’s comment. I’m not sure why you chose to jump on my comment when about 80-90% of posts on here have also said that this was an accident and not something for OFSTED.

There are children at risk so I’ll comment.
On the Internet, in Person, wherever I see it because as a decent human being that’s what we do, we share our knowledge to protect the vulnerable in our society.

Well done for knowing this. Are you planning on commenting on every other post that doesn’t necessarily know that this is correct or is it just my post you’ve singled out to demonstrate your knowledge?

He tripped over a toy. It happens. Don't be daft. It was an accident. It won't be the last

All besides the point and completely irrelevant, in order to be legally operating as a nursery and compliant, There needs to be a certain ratio of qualified staff to unqualified staff in each room of the nursery at all times licensing has agreed Are the opening hours.
Compliance is black and white.
Yes or no

YABU - it was an accident, these things happen unfortunately regardless of who his in the room at the time.

My son tripped over a chair leg at nursery and smacked his head on a table, ended up with a lovely gash on his forehead. There were several ‘qualified’ members of staff in the room including the nursery manager….and i’d literally just walked into the room to pick him up. It was an accident, no one could’ve stopped it happening, including myself.

ffs it was an accident

ridiculous drip feed post

You didn’t think it would be helpful to mention all this in your original post? Please, use some common sense.

This really

I’m not up to date on what the rules are for qualified vs unqualified staff. No, qualifications don’t in themselves stop accidents and accidents happen BUT if a setting is ignoring things like qualified staff ratios they are also likely to be cutting corners elsewhere with training, equipment safety etc etc. An unsuitable environment increases likelihood of accidents.

It is always worth reporting any breech of the rules because it often uncovers other issues. But you need to establish what rules, if any, were broken. If there were then definitely report.

Why do so many Mums Net AIBU drip feed information?
‘AIBU my husband was feeding our child while holding him and I think this is awful’
Of course YABU says everyone…
‘Shows how much you all know’ responds the OP, ‘he was holding him while walking across a tightrope above a pond full of crocodiles!’

Just give people the information!

But beyond that, staffing sounds an issue, yes.

I agree that 'accidents happen' but this sounds like even if it couldn't have been avoided, someone should have been there faster - pretty much instantly. I'd also be more widely concerned about my child's health and safety and also that he was receiving quality care in other ways e.g. ambitious language used in conversation, caring relationships with staff.
You've been rather shut down on this thread OP; I'm an EYFS manager and have been for many years and I think there's a problem here. How do you feel generally about his care and progress? If you feel the nursery to be excellent, maybe this incident just requires a chat with the manager and reassurance. But I might be looking for a new nursery.

Just sounds like an accident to me, unaffected by the staffing. Are there other issues you are worried about?

Yes, that’s fine, if there is something wrong here. I’m not sure (and that seems to be true of the majority on this thread) what the nursery have necessarily done wrong though. @Moonlightexpress put’s the question far better than I did, but the accident sounds like an accident, the staffing issue may or may not be an issue (we don’t have enough details to know) and the accident doesn’t sound like a room set up issue as the child tripped over a toy (they move) and hit an easel. It sounds like an accident to me and that wouldn’t have been prevented by having someone more qualified present. And we know nothing of how they responded to the accident, which in itself suggests that the response was probably fine. I, and I suspect everyone else here who have said it doesn’t sound like a matter for OFSTED aren’t suggesting anything should be covered up or the nursery protected, we’re just saying that what has been presented doesn’t sound like something that needs reporting. It was, however distressing and severe, just an accident.

Op was the incident handled correctly after your child had the accident? Was all the correct steps taken as would by someone qualified? Was the room staged for a potential accident that a qualified person would have made an assessment that might have forseen such an incident? Has the nursery failed with staffing rules regardless to all these points ? If the answer is no then im not sure what you want ofsted to do. Sometimes we want to lay blame on accidents when there is no blame. Its just an accident.

This! ⬆️

She is not reporting the incident, she’s reporting the fact that there were no qualified staff supervising hers and the other children.

This probably doesn't count as a 'serious accident' in Ofsted terms.

You must tell Ofsted about any of the following:

• anything that requires resuscitation
• admittance to hospital for more than 24 hours
• a broken bone or fracture
• dislocation of any major joint, such as the shoulder, knee, hip or elbow
• any loss of consciousness
• severe breathing difficulties, including asphyxia
• anything leading to hypothermia or heat-induced illness

Nursery don't need to report anything Ofsted consider 'minor'

You do not need to tell Ofsted about minor injuries. These include:

• animal and insect bites, such as a bee sting that doesn’t cause an allergic reaction
• sprains, strains and bruising, for example if a child sprains their wrist tripping over their shoelaces
• cuts and grazes
• minor burns and scalds
• dislocation of minor joints, such as a finger or toe
• wound infections

The nursery ratios can work across the building and the manager can deploy staff as necessary.