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Suflan · 10/06/2025 21:11

This post is talking about the school system in the republic of Ireland, but I know that the school system in the UK has some similiatites, so this is also relevant to people in the UK.

I went to school in Ireland a long time ago, 20 years ago.

My younger cousins are just sitting their school leaving certificate (irish equivalent to a levels) this year and they and their friends have been posting about the exams, after it happened, on social media.

I was just thinking what they learn and do exams on is such a load of shite. Like how is it relevant or necessary in todays world at all.

They posted about their maths paper, all the quadratic equations, prove that point 5,1 is on the line etc etc, extremely complicated equations, and algebra.

Like what do you need that for in life? Its so totally pointless. And maths is mandatory to do, so they need points from maths to get into University.

Like what is the point of learning these things. Surely they should be learning something useful. My cousins have said to me that they think that a lot of what they learn is totally pointless too

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Tangfastic71 · 10/06/2025 22:31

And specifically for quadratic equations. Basically maths is brilliant 😍
Engineers (mechanical, civil, aerospace, etc.)
Use quadratic equations to model forces, stress analysis, projectile motion, and load-bearing calculations — especially in structural design or motion physics.
Computer Graphics Designers / Game Developers
Use quadratics to simulate curves, motion, and physics in virtual environments — such as animating the path of a thrown object or designing parabolic shapes.
Data Scientists and Statisticians
Use quadratic models to fit data in cases of curved trends — such as predicting growth or decline that isn’t linear.
Architects
Apply quadratic equations when designing curved structures like arches, domes, or parabolic roofs — both for aesthetics and stability.
Physicists
Use quadratics to describe motion under constant acceleration — for example, when calculating how far an object falls or how fast it travels at a certain point.
Economists
Use quadratic functions to model cost, revenue, and profit — particularly in finding maximum profit or minimum cost through parabolic relationships.
Ballistics Experts and Military Technicians
Use quadratic equations to calculate trajectories of projectiles — including bullets, missiles, or other launched objects.
Agricultural Planners
Use quadratic equations to maximize area within a fixed perimeter (like fencing fields) or optimize planting layouts.
Robotics Engineers
Apply quadratics when programming movement paths or arm arcs — especially when dealing with lifting and throwing mechanisms.

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:31

I think the Irish system is too full on aswell.

I remember even when I was at school saying to my teacher, "why do we have to study seven subjects, when English teenagers only have to study three subjects at this age"

I wish I only had to do three!

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sleepwouldbenice · 10/06/2025 22:31

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:26

Again I'll ask the question.

The posters who are saying that algebra is so important and very much needed in life, did you choose to do maths to A Level?

Edited

Degree level

borntobequiet · 10/06/2025 22:31

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:22

A question to the posters on here who are so enthusiastic about maths.

Did you all choose to study maths to A- Level then?

Edited

A level Maths is for people who know that they want a career that will involve a significant amount of mathematical skill and understanding. For those who don’t necessarily want that, a decent GCSE grade is fine. You can be good at and enjoy Maths - and apply it in everyday life and in your job - without an A level, in the same way that you can be enthusiastic about a sport without competing at a high level.

Lullabycrickets23 · 10/06/2025 22:31

I think the fact that you might not use algebra in every life for the rest of your life is not a good reason not to learn it. I went to school in Italy and in secondary school I have learned algebra and latin for example. Did I enjoyed them at the time? Not really…do I use them every day? Never. Yet, the process, the challenge, the education really, opened my mind, gave me tools and background that yes have been useful at university and in life! In understanding the world, challenging ideas, having a perspective on history and many other things.
I for one find that the new generations have very limited education and they are getting less and less used to have a well rounded knowledge and critical thought. Which is a shame really, because we are losing what made humanity great.

Fetaface · 10/06/2025 22:31

Suflan · 10/06/2025 21:19

But maths in particular. The curriculum looks like it was desigbed 100 years ago.

Algebra is so completely irrelevant in this day and age.

So you do not have a phone contract or any car credit owing? That is algebra!

ChocolateCinderToffee · 10/06/2025 22:30

I was drafting a sewing pattern for a cap yesterday and believe me if you didn't know how to use pi to calculate the circumference of a circle you wouldn't get very far with that.

UpThePole · 10/06/2025 22:30

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:26

Again I'll ask the question.

The posters who are saying that algebra is so important and very much needed in life, did you choose to do maths to A Level?

Edited

Odd question, but yes.

I hated French, didn’t take it at A-level, but still think teaching modern languages is valuable.

florasl · 10/06/2025 22:30

I’m an agricultural surveyor and use algebra regularly… I’d imagine almost all surveyors do and it’s a pretty common job.

aredcar · 10/06/2025 22:30

My friend once said similar about algebra being pointless and how she’s never used it since school and I pointed out that she uses basic algebra most days calculating medication amounts in her job as a nurse.

I did maths to a level - not sure why that’s relevant though but since you’ve been asking

UniqueRedSquid · 10/06/2025 22:30

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:29

Well lucky you that you got to drop it.

I don't think that maths should be mandatory in Ireland until Leaving certificate level.

It’s not lucky though. As per a previous comment I made, I miss that knowledge at work every day and rely on colleagues to help me through.

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:29

UniqueRedSquid · 10/06/2025 22:28

In England most of us get 3 (4 at a push) A-Level options so if I loved 8 subjects then 4/5 would have to go anyway. Those fortunate enough to have a career in mind will pick the qualifications most suited to that.

But that misses the point, something can be valuable and not necessarily need to be studied until we’re OAPs.

Well lucky you that you got to drop it.

I don't think that maths should be mandatory in Ireland until Leaving certificate level.

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Itsjustafly · 10/06/2025 22:28

I use algebra quite a lot - I'm a buyer. I also love maths, so much that I did a maths degree in my 30s. Maths is so useful, even just the problem solving and logic.

GoodQueenBess · 10/06/2025 22:28

@Suflan , I studied Maths beyond the age of 16. Maths is everywhere in daily life.

Tangfastic71 · 10/06/2025 22:28

Suflan · 10/06/2025 21:33

I absolutely agree.

Specifically for algebra
Engineers (civil, mechanical, electrical, etc.)
Use algebra to design structures, systems, or machines — such as calculating forces, loads, voltage, or resistance.
Computer Programmers / Software Developers
Use algebraic logic to write algorithms and manage data — like building functions that include calculations, loops, and conditions.
Data Analysts and Statisticians
Use algebra to manipulate formulas and models for interpreting data — including regression analysis and predictive modeling.
Architects
Apply algebra to scale drawings and calculate materials or structural loads — ensuring designs are safe, functional, and cost-effective.
Economists and Financial Analysts
Use algebra to build models, project growth, and analyze risk — especially for interest calculations and investment projections.
Doctors and Pharmacists
Use algebra to calculate dosages based on weight, age, or condition — ensuring accurate and safe administration of medication.
Pilots and Air Traffic Controllers
Use algebra to calculate flight paths, speeds, fuel requirements, and arrival times — especially under varying weather conditions.
Scientists (Biologists, Chemists, Physicists)
Use algebra in experiments and lab work — for things like dilutions, concentrations, and balancing chemical equations.
Logisticians and Supply Chain Managers
Use algebra to optimize routes, calculate shipping costs, manage inventory, and streamline delivery schedules.

LemondrizzleShark · 10/06/2025 22:28

Zebedee999 · 10/06/2025 22:21

You're really showing your ignorance. Many careers will use algebra, maybe not every day but the ability to use it when required is essential in many careers.

What I would say is the education system needs to sort out those better suited to a trade sooner and set them up appropriately instead of wasting their time.

Even kids going into a trade need to know algebra, unless they want to lose money hand over fist in wasted materials.

UpThePole · 10/06/2025 22:28

Also maths is pure deductive logic, it’s a way of thinking that is similar to philosophy. The fact not every job uses it doesn’t make it worthless.

Thinking logically is a skill in and of itself. A lot of the problems we have today with rampant populism / extremism would be much mitigated if more people were taught to think critically.

UniqueRedSquid · 10/06/2025 22:28

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:22

A question to the posters on here who are so enthusiastic about maths.

Did you all choose to study maths to A- Level then?

Edited

In England most of us get 3 (4 at a push) A-Level options so if I loved 8 subjects then 4/5 would have to go anyway. Those fortunate enough to have a career in mind will pick the qualifications most suited to that.

But that misses the point, something can be valuable and not necessarily need to be studied until we’re OAPs.

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:28

Biskieboo · 10/06/2025 22:25

OP I presume you're a groundskeeper given your love of moving the goalposts. You said 'algebra is so completely irrelevant in this day and age', that has been shown to be the utterly ludicrous statement it is, so now you're on to 'Yeah but not all kids like it and so they shouldn't have to learn it if they don't want to'. Dare I say it, but you are displaying a lack of critical thinking and logical rigour that a bit more mathematical study might have helped with. Yeah don't tell me, I'm being so rude, I know.

Did you do maths to A level?

It's funny how no one is answering this key question....

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LemondrizzleShark · 10/06/2025 22:26

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:22

A question to the posters on here who are so enthusiastic about maths.

Did you all choose to study maths to A- Level then?

Edited

Yes. And did a PhD in epidemiology in my 30s, which also used a lot of calculus (I’m a doctor)

Suflan · 10/06/2025 22:26

Again I'll ask the question.

The posters who are saying that algebra is so important and very much needed in life, did you choose to do maths to A Level?

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Biskieboo · 10/06/2025 22:25

OP I presume you're a groundskeeper given your love of moving the goalposts. You said 'algebra is so completely irrelevant in this day and age', that has been shown to be the utterly ludicrous statement it is, so now you're on to 'Yeah but not all kids like it and so they shouldn't have to learn it if they don't want to'. Dare I say it, but you are displaying a lack of critical thinking and logical rigour that a bit more mathematical study might have helped with. Yeah don't tell me, I'm being so rude, I know.

mrpenny · 10/06/2025 22:25

All you need in life is agriculture and medicine actually. No point in anything else if you use reductionism

Martymcfly24 · 10/06/2025 22:25

Sunshineonthewater · 10/06/2025 22:06

People are giving you a very hard time but a lot of people from the irish school system would say they struggled having to study Maths to Leaving Cert standard.

I think the UK system is better if you don’t love Maths because you can drop it after GCSE. I imagine lots of people commenting on this post will know people who only did maths to GCSE level and understand their choice.

I found it difficult having to study Maths at Leaving Cert level and did Pass Maths not Honours. I think it’s generally a positive thing that in Ireland you leave school with a broad education by studying 7 subjects at Leaving Cert. But personally I would have preferred to only do 3 subjects I really liked. It would have been easier for me to do well.

But there is the option of LCA (practical maths)and LCVP (no maths).

B0D · 10/06/2025 22:25

This has got to be a wind up

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